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  1. #176
    The Golden Goddess TheCultOfPersonality's Avatar
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    Not only that, they have a jackass coaching them that is clueless.
    I think LeBron is doing an amazing job coaching.

  2. #177
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    Making it to the finals in the East this weird isn't impressive in any way. If they beat GS, then that'll be impressive, yes

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    How is it "impressive enough to drag them to the Finals"? The compe ion is pathetic. I'd expect any all-time great, that's close enough to their peak, to have this team in the Finals. Besides, he's been verging on terrible by his lofty standards and their role players have performed better than they're being given credit for.

    I've never been one to discredit him. He's clearly one of the five greatest players ever and he'll probably go down as the second greatest, when it's all said and done. But the fact that he's on the verge of five straight Finals and might make ten or close to it, in his career, is largely irrelevant. If the East was respectable or he was in the West, he'd have never made it in '07, '14 or '15.

  4. #179
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    I think LeBron is doing an amazing job coaching.
    That's only during the victories. He doesn't coach the losses. That's on Blatt.

  5. #180
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Making it to the finals in the East this weird isn't impressive in any way. If they beat GS, then that'll be impressive, yes
    Anytime you can get to 16 first after the 82...AND they don't sell your prematurely is impressive.

  6. #181
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    Recently watched all 6 games of the 2011 Finals again.. gotta say, Spoelstra is the main reason the Mavs won . Yeah, LeBron sucked major ass but he was still a beast defensively and it's amazing how Spo never used him on Dirk.. Instead of playing Bosh primarily at the 5, Spo gave Anthony and Haslem major minutes every game despite the Mavs having no penetration ability, no dominant offensive center, and no dominating rebounding advantage... Having CB stretch Tyson out to the perimeter and Dirk guarding LeBron would've been a ing nightmare but it never happened

    No wonder coach LBJ called all the shots for Miami after that disaster..

  7. #182
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    Recently watched all 6 games of the 2011 Finals again.. gotta say, Spoelstra is the main reason the Mavs won . Yeah, LeBron sucked major ass but he was still a beast defensively and it's amazing how Spo never used him on Dirk.. Instead of playing Bosh primarily at the 5, Spo gave Anthony and Haslem major minutes every game despite the Mavs having no penetration ability, no dominant offensive center, and no dominating rebounding advantage... Having CB stretch Tyson out to the perimeter and Dirk guarding LeBron would've been a ing nightmare but it never happened

    No wonder coach LBJ called all the shots for Miami after that disaster..
    ..I don't recall LBJ calling (Amy) in '13. But, without her taking a fit the Spurs are a fortnight & a bit from a triple.

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    ..I don't recall LBJ calling (Amy) in '13. But, without her taking a fit the Spurs are a fortnight & a bit from a triple.
    thank Bosh & Amy & Allen, then.

  9. #184
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    I'll say something stupid and see how many people respond"
    In actuality you do this quite well

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    Apparently the Cavs became the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without 2 of their top 3 scorers in the regular season playing, tbh..amazing what Lebron does with scrubs around him..

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    Apparently the Cavs became the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without 2 of their top 3 scorers in the regular season playing, tbh..amazing what Lebron does with scrubs around him..


    Don't forget the fact he has been playing coach all year also lol

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    Don't forget the fact he has been playing coach all year also lol
    GM as well tbh. What can't he do?

  13. #188
    moral victory, tbh. Franklin's Avatar
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    Lebron made the finals once with scrubs around him imho.

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    Apparently the Cavs became the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without 2 of their top 3 scorers in the regular season playing, tbh..amazing what Lebron does with scrubs around him..
    Of course, it might not be a coincidence that the Cavaliers started playing outstanding defense when Irving and Love went down.

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    Apparently the Cavs became the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without 2 of their top 3 scorers in the regular season playing, tbh..amazing what Lebron does with scrubs around him..
    says the guy that called him a dumbass coon for deciding to play for Cleveland

  16. #191
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    Isn't SF one of the hardest position to build around? So isn't the lack of talent around him more a feature then a glitch?


    Consider, you can adapt a team around players to maximize gross talent. That's kind of what teams like the celtics are like, maybe golden state.

    Or you can create a team around a dominant player. When you remove the dominant player your team will not work well.


    So, Comparing lebrons bum lineups is dumb. These are Lebrons teammates of choice. He can't play for real coaches or with real non- sucking teammates.



    Also, why does Harlem talk about the Heats post all star record? Teams tank when their best player goes down. They try less hard. The heat were effectively gutted once when lebron left, then again when bosh went out. Expecting the team to survive that is dumb. Give healthy bosh, dragic, etc a full season and they probably make the east playoffs comfortably. But this was not an ordinary season.


    Contra, the lottery level talent of the Cavs was not the league's worse. They were just a badly managed team. Look at their coaches....were they coaching to win games or ping pong balls? The nba is not a league of honest wins. It's a cost benefit analysis of whether winning or losing is more profitable.

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    In Dat Ass skut_farkus's Avatar
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    His and hers now discussing this very topic

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    Isn't SF one of the hardest position to build around?
    Since when? It's actually easy to build around players with size (SF, PF, C) because they're simply harder to defend than guards.

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    Since when? It's actually easy to build around players with size (SF, PF, C) because they're simply harder to defend than guards.
    it's a harlemsism. It has to do with moving the big out of the paint to help Lebron get to the basic. If you are constructing your fantasy team you can't pick Lebron and Hakeem for instance without having one be severely bets. That why Bosh never looked great with Miami and why mosgov is a decent guy. That's the template. Lebron, stretch 4, rebounding big, and shooters.

    That's a very modern style team makeup, but throughout history You've seen elite big men be the most dominant players.

    When talking about All Time greats you'd want the great to work well with teammates and make them better. instead we've seen Lebron be very picky about taking "his guys". His original Cleveland teams were very , and he did get them to the finals. But i just don't think that's saying much. I mean, woudln't any of the TOp 10 all time been able to take that cavs team to the east final at least once?


    You guys are handing lebron all sorts of moral victories. Stop it. Look at his accomplishments honestly

  20. #195
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    His accomplishments of going to 5 straight finals is pretty damn impressive to me.

  21. #196
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    His accomplishments of going to 5 straight finals is pretty damn impressive to me.
    How many times would Shaq and Kobe made it out of the EC? 8/8 tbh.

    Don't give him props for getting out of the ty EC. Things we know:

    1) When Boston's Big 3 were healthy, he got his pushed in at least twice.
    2) Then he ran to South Beach to join a stacked team
    3) He cried like a when Dirk pushed his in
    4) Bailed out by Battier for his 1st rang
    5) Bailed out by Ray Allen (and Duncan't ) for his 2nd rang
    6) Choked to your Spurs
    7) 2 Finals wins, 3 big fat losses
    8) Finals winning percentage: 40%
    9) If he loses (AGAIN) to Steph Curry he drops to 33% which is PATHETIC
    10) LkrFan doesn't have to hear that LeGoat anymore


  22. #197
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    His accomplishments of going to 5 straight finals is pretty damn impressive to me.
    He'd have but 1 if you hadn't been so damn gratuitous.

  23. #198
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    He'd have but 1 if you hadn't been so damn gratuitous.
    You have no room. You just gave one back to Amb and now have to find a way to win it again.

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    You have no room. You just gave one back to Amb and now have to find a way to win it again.
    He's never wrong, just like you.

  25. #200
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    He's never wrong, just like you.
    That's fine - but that doesn't change the fact he lodged proof, you were selling your win all over ST and now you just gave it back. You can't speak to the Spurs anymore - you have no room.

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