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    1st ROUND WISHLIST:

    Montrezl Harrell
    Frank Kaminsky (hoping teams get turned off by his weak physical tools; perfect as a Bonner replacement)
    Jerian Grant
    Delon Wright
    Justin Anderson
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
    Arturas Gudaitis

    2nd ROUND WISHLIST:
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    Anderson will be long gone.



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    I don't have any background in college / euro ball so I'll rely on yalls knowledge.

    Any chance of picking up a Leonard or Hill type prospect.

    Seems like the FO strikes gold every 3 years or so.
    The "Leonard" (trade-up impact player) is Bobby Portis...do-it-all, high motor PF.

    The "Hill" (obscure, but talented reach) could be Olivier Hanlan...combo guard with good scoring instincts. Or, it could be Larry Nance Jr...high-motor defensive PF with an emerging offensive game.

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    The "Leonard" (trade-up impact player) is Bobby Portis...do-it-all, high motor PF.

    The "Hill" (obscure, but talented reach) could be Olivier Hanlan...combo guard with good scoring instincts. Or, it could be Larry Nance Jr...high-motor defensive PF with an emerging offensive game.
    I am with you on Portis. I think when we look back in 10 years he has a better career than Okafor. Do you think coach Bud would take Diaw and 26 for 15?

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    Big, unathletic, fundamentally sound, unselfish, PnR specialist, European, etc.. this guy has "Spur" written all over him, tbh. And he's supposedly shooting up draft boards and expected to be drafted right around where we pick. And he's a potential draft-and-stash player, too. You may very well be looking at the next San Antonio Spur, tbh.



    I'm seeing Hernangomez mentioned with Spurs more and more as we approach the draft. Just sayin.

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    I'm seeing Hernangomez mentioned with Spurs more and more as we approach the draft. Just sayin.
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    I'm seeing Hernangomez mentioned with Spurs more and more as we approach the draft. Just sayin.
    Have they even worked him out? Not that it's a prerequisite for them selecting him, but my guess is the mentions are primarily based on the fact that he's European and eligible for draft-n-stash.

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    I am with you on Portis. I think when we look back in 10 years he has a better career than Okafor. Do you think coach Bud would take Diaw and 26 for 15?
    Hard to say whether you'd get the same out of Boris on a different team. Splitter is probably more likely to fetch a pick from ATL than Boris tbqh.

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    Have they even worked him out? Not that it's a prerequisite for them selecting him, but my guess is the mentions are primarily based on the fact that he's European and eligible for draft-n-stash.
    A lot of mocks are projecting us to go the draft-and-stash route, so they're penciling him in at 26. Doesn't help that his NBA comparison by many of these sites is Tiago Splitter.

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    If Justin Anderson is available and the spurs don't take him I'll be pretty pissed. Wouldn't mind moving up a little to get him tbh.

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    A lot of mocks are projecting us to go the draft-and-stash route, so they're penciling him in at 26. Doesn't help that his NBA comparison by many of these sites is Tiago Splitter.
    Not to be argumentative, but I've only seen one mock with the Spurs going draft-n-stash and selecting Hernangomez. I see the logic behind it but don't necessarily know if it's a guess with any insight.

    I also don't understand the Splitter comparison. Though he was not a shot-blocker overseas, he came across the pond with a rep for being a good defender and solid athlete. Hernangomez is not that. Honestly if he's the pick I'm going to be slightly underwhelmed.

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    Jonathan Holmes has reportedly been canceling his workouts with teams selecting in the early 30's. This suggests that a team in the late 20's has already promised him he'll be taken. That could be the Spurs, given how close R.C. and co. are with the Texas Basketball program . They know Holmes well (he's also from San Antonio), and he's the type of team-first, stand-up kid that the Spurs like. Wouldn't be surprised if we have another Cojo situation where they reach on a guy who they're very familiar with. He's also a stretch 4, which the spurs appear to be interested in. Just speculation, but wouldn't at all be surprised.


    I think they've been looking at Holmes. He's a smart kid, with a lot of the things the Spurs look for.

    I was told that they've looked at Nikola Radicevic as a possible draft-and-stash. Serbian connection?

    Don't be surprised to see Sonny Weems in a Spurs workout. He improved his game overseas, and the word is that he's willing to sign relatively cheap to get back to the NBA on a club that will develop him further. Both are things that will probably make the Spurs give him another look.

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    I'm pretty sure, if we don't trade out of the first round, it's going to be a draft and stash player for the simple fact of opening up as much cap room as possible.

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    I'm pretty sure, if we don't trade out of the first round, it's going to be a draft and stash player for the simple fact of opening up as much cap room as possible.
    Which probably means euro since most of those prospects late in the draft actually want a chance at an NBA team.

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    I just thought of something that made some sense. What if the Spurs did do draft and stash for a big while everyone is squirming for the glut of shooting guards and small forwards, the Montrezl Harrells of the worlds etc. We instead pick a big that can replace Splitter. If we draft a big that's ready to come over next year or two years from now that keeps us flexible. In this scenario, we don't trade Splitter on draft night, but keep him until after free agency. If we sign LA, we then trade him and the needed pieces, probably a future first rounder, and have Duncan in the middle. In one or two years, depending on how long Duncan plays, we then have the big come over and take Duncan's place to stand alongside LA. If LA doesn't sign, we still have Splitter and possible replacement anyhow.

    The three names to watch in this scenario:
    Arturas Gudaitis
    Guillermo Hernangomez
    Nikola Milutinov

    After watching the scouting reports and etc videos, I am really high on Gudaitis. Very good defender, good size, a jumper, and most of all, somewhat of a rim protector. The Spurs also just brought him in for a workout. I could see this going down. I'm not ready to say this is my final pick that the Spurs are gonna make, but I'm close. The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. We can just resign Danny and Manu, if he doesn't retire, or Marco. We have Kyle to fight for the back-up 3. You always can bring LJC and Deshaun over to fight it out at that spot and worse case scenario Danny can get more minutes with the 8 plus million he'll be making. So that's covered. Maybe you look to bring Denmon over for the 3rd string pg spot maybe not or make a move in the second round for a Olivier Hanlan or Joseph Young. So that's covered. Now that comes to backup big. Who we got? We need a stretch four, but we do have Diaw. Maybe Nance is actually available at 55. According to Draftexpress, he will be.

    Patty might fetch a 2nd round pick to the right team. If Manu isn't back, we'll need a playmaking guard and we can just bring Cory back. With that pick we take a Hanlan or Young. Maybe Patty gets dealt. Makes more sense to dangle him on draft night then Splitter. This is assuming they know Manu's plans or have an inclination. If we sign LA then he most likely has to go anyway.

    Just some thoughts. Feel free to add anything

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    I'm seeing Hernangomez mentioned with Spurs more and more as we approach the draft. Just sayin.
    He, apparently, wants to stay with Real Madrid for a couple of seasons. He'd be better as a second rounder pick.

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    I've been reading up on Anthony Brown. Kind of a mixed bag

    Pro's

    6'8 (he is listed at 6'5 1/2 in shoes at the combine but that's almost certainly a typo he's likely 6'7 1/2 without shoes. He was listed at 6'7 in shoes last year in the Kevin Durant Camp)

    Compares to Green physically. Taller, longer, and slightly more athletic. Above average lateral quickness. Capable of defending 3 positions in college.

    Really good shooter-(46% 3pt shooter, excellent as a catch and shoot guy)
    Good in transition, takes long strides and gets out into the open floor.

    Cons

    Poor 2pt FG% (98th out of DX top 100 players)
    Doesn't really fight around screens, kind of gives up on them.
    23 years old-5 year college player (missed a season)
    Low ceiling

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    It really seems like Hunter or Harrell might be there. The question is who do you take.

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    I'm pretty sure, if we don't trade out of the first round, it's going to be a draft and stash player for the simple fact of opening up as much cap room as possible.
    You're talking about $400k in cap space here. There's no way it makes sense for the Spurs to give up on a salary-locked player for so little space. If they draft and stash it will be because that is the best move to make for the roster or because the BPA is an overseas prospect. It won't be to save cap.

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    You're talking about $400k in cap space here. There's no way it makes sense for the Spurs to give up on a salary-locked player for so little space. If they draft and stash it will be because that is the best move to make for the roster or because the BPA is an overseas prospect. It won't be to save cap.
    I think it's more than the "empty space" $400K slot charge. It would be whatever the rookie scale rate is for spot #26, much closer to $1M.

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    I think it's more than the "empty space" $400K slot charge. It would be whatever the rookie scale rate is for spot #26, much closer to $1M.
    The "empty space" charge is $525k. That can't be turned into cap space no matter how you finagle it. A rookie at 26 would have a first year salary ranging from $793k to $992k (the max is actually $1.2 Million, but obviously the team would just use the hold in this case). So that's a functional effect of $268k to $467k.

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    With all the Spurs success and the growth of the "Spurs tree" throughout the NBA, I'm sure more teams are evaluating and looking at prospects the same way. Makes it tough for the Spurs to get who they really want, especially considering they're almost always selecting near the end of the draft.

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    With all the Spurs success and the growth of the "Spurs tree" throughout the NBA, I'm sure more teams are evaluating and looking at prospects the same way. Makes it tough for the Spurs to get who they really want, especially considering they're almost always selecting near the end of the draft.
    Yes, that's a great observation. On one hand, it seems like trading up with Atlanta to 15 makes sense, as they'd value a guy like Splitter. But on the other hand, the Spurs would be trading up that far to target someone, and there's a good chance that whatever makes that player intriguing to the Spurs would also make them intriguing to the Hawks. Meaning if the Spurs value 15 and cap space more than Splitter, Atlanta like would as well.

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    Would bud take splitter though?

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    Imho t depends on roles...both teams are in win now mode. But Atlanta does miss a big man at C and it's difficult to find one at 15th that can play immediately. I don't think at 15th the Spurs are gonna select a big man...

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