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    building around Lollard

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    Last year's team got the six seed and bounced in the first round .
    You sure you wanna make this argument dude?

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    Depends on who you trade him to
    Parker is not getting traded though, some just need to give that up already. I would not be opposed to it if the right deal came along, but Co Jo is not a starter on a team that will go on to win a le.
    Says who?

    Last year's CoJo > Last year's frenchie. It shouldn't be held against CoJo that Pop is stupidly loyal to frenchie and refused to bench him even if it was for the betterment of the team.
    Wow, last years Parker, that is not setting the ceiling that high there. Even so Parker had a good month where he was getting 18 PPG, will Cojo ever even do that? I don't get the hype behind the guy personally, he is a good backup in this league and that is his ceiling IMO. Parker sucked last year though, no doubt I say it all day everyday.

    I think Mills should have gotten more minutes in the playoffs and closed out game 7, they might have won. Parker last year blew.

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    "Just to give a giant middle finger to the spurs I'm offering Kawhi max, front loaded, biggest ing signing bonus possible. Eff them. Gonna make sure lamarcus is surrounded by scrubs"


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    Someone do the math as things stand that would allow us to keep Green and sign LA to a reasonable deal. Possibly keeping our 26 pick too.

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    tbh I really don't want to lose splitter.

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    Yeah, assuming we find a taker for Splitter, what else would we need to happen to make room for LMA? What kind of reasonable contracts could Duncan/Manu get? Would Mills have to go as well?

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    That second part is likely to happen if they can get LMA, infact book it and bet on it. Tiago traded and Green walking, which is what I see happening from reports and the way things are headed.

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    tbh I really don't want to lose splitter.
    I think his calf has other plans

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    I think his calf has other plans
    I understand, Texans love steak.

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    Joke by the way.

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    I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.

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    If Green is willing to wait until after LMA is signed, and any other FAs are signed by the Spurs, can't we give him basically whatever we want? The danger of losing Green is if we're forced to sign him too soon and for too much as I understand it. DG has a small cap hold now, the longer he's willing to wait the better.

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    I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.
    Chinook

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    I have no idea why Lowe is saying that. Unless he's assuming Spurs aren't willing to renounce guys or that the payroll will be too large. There shouldn't be a legit reason to let DG walk unless they want LMA at all costs & can't trade Tiago or Boris.
    This is why I wanted to see figures.. Somebody has to be willing to take Tiago or Diaw for almost nothing back. The price for Danny has to be around 10M and I don't see him walking away from that given the strength of the team and the loyalty they show. They would probably sign him to some insane deal we will be pissed at 3 years down the road.

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    ATL, Bucks or CLE (Haywood + their pick for Mills/Tiago)

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    I can't believe all this LMA hype. He's a 30 year-old, jump-shooting big man who didn't even show up in the playoffs this year. And last year the Spurs shut him down completely in the playoffs.

    The guy doesn't care about winning. He didn't care at Texas, and he never cared in Portland. It wasn't until the Blazers got Damian Lillard that they became relevant.

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    Please RC, do the right thing. Trade porker and his franchise sinking contract to anyone dumb enough to take him. Keep everyone else. Add LMA.

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    I can't believe all this LMA hype. He's a 30 year-old, jump-shooting big man who didn't even show up in the playoffs this year. And last year the Spurs shut him down completely in the playoffs.

    The guy doesn't care about winning. He didn't care at Texas, and he never cared in Portland. It wasn't until the Blazers got Damian Lillard that they became relevant.
    Been saying the same thing for weeks now.

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    This is why I wanted to see figures.. Somebody has to be willing to take Tiago or Diaw for almost nothing back. The price for Danny has to be around 10M and I don't see him walking away from that given the strength of the team and the loyalty they show. They would probably sign him to some insane deal we will be pissed at 3 years down the road.

    From Chinook's Thread

    2015 free agency:

    Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer:

    Guaranteed Salaries:
    Tony Parker: $13,437,500
    Tiago Splitter: $8,500,000
    Boris Diaw: $7,000,000
    Patty Mills: $3,578,947
    Kyle Anderson: $1,142,879

    Total guaranteed: $33,659,326

    Qualifying offers:
    Aron Baynes: $2,596,250

    Relevant cap holds:
    Tim Duncan: $15,542,169
    Manu Ginobili: $10,500,000
    Danny Green: $7,647,500
    Kawhi Leonard: $7,235,148
    Cory Joseph: $5,058,153
    Marco Belinelli: $3,735,875
    Jeff Ayres: $2,377,375
    Matt Bonner: $947,276
    Austin Daye: $947,276
    Livio Jean-Charles: $957,200
    2015 draft pick: ???

    Projected 2015-2016 salary cap: $66.5 Million
    Projected 2015-2016 luxury tax threshold: $80.1 Million

    To determine the Spurs' functional cap space, I'll just take the guaranteed salary and add to it Green and Leonard's holds along with the holds for LJC and the first-rounder (which I'm assuming will be the 25th pick and have a hold of $1,025,700). This gives a total of $50,524,874 committed to nine players. That means one needs to add in three roster charges (cap space can't be used until there is a total of 12 salaries or holds against the team's salary). of $525,093 each. That gives the Spurs a total of $52,100,153 against the cap for the purpose of free agency. There are ways around the roster charges, but we can talk about that later.

    With that in mind, the Spurs will have $14,399,847 in cap room under this scenario. That's really not enough to do a whole lot with. Lucky for them, the 2015 cap may be significantly higher than the current projections -- up over $70 Million. That would give them enough space to offer a near-max salary, but there aren't many scenarios where the team will be able to eek out max space without letting go of someone they would probably want to keep, especially since the team is likely to want to bring back another player or two like Baynes or Beli. Someone will have to take less, or else the idea of getting a premiere free agent seems like a pipe dream.

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    If you replace Tiagos 8.5M with the 6M reported from Tim & remove Mills 3.5M you go from 14M in cap space in the above scenario to the 18M you need for LMA. Then you sign Green.

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    If the Spurs and Blazers were to discuss a S&T does this result in Aldridge being able to sign for more $ and an extra year? Or can he only get the same contract as a FA as he can get in a possible S&T?

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    If the Spurs and Blazers were to discuss a S&T does this result in Aldridge being able to sign for more $ and an extra year? Or can he only get the same contract as a FA as he can get in a possible S&T?
    He can get the same amount of years but slightly more money in a S&T than FA.

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    That's what he's saying. Nothing exciting or new.

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    From Chinook's Thread

    2015 free agency:

    Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer:


    Guaranteed Salaries:
    Tony Parker: $13,437,500
    Tiago Splitter: $8,500,000
    Boris Diaw: $7,000,000
    Patty Mills: $3,578,947
    Kyle Anderson: $1,142,879

    Total guaranteed: $33,659,326

    Qualifying offers:
    Aron Baynes: $2,596,250

    Relevant cap holds:
    Tim Duncan: $15,542,169
    Manu Ginobili: $10,500,000
    Danny Green: $7,647,500
    Kawhi Leonard: $7,235,148
    Cory Joseph: $5,058,153
    Marco Belinelli: $3,735,875
    Jeff Ayres: $2,377,375
    Matt Bonner: $947,276
    Austin Daye: $947,276
    Livio Jean-Charles: $957,200
    2015 draft pick: ???

    Projected 2015-2016 salary cap: $66.5 Million
    Projected 2015-2016 luxury tax threshold: $80.1 Million

    To determine the Spurs' functional cap space, I'll just take the guaranteed salary and add to it Green and Leonard's holds along with the holds for LJC and the first-rounder (which I'm assuming will be the 25th pick and have a hold of $1,025,700). This gives a total of $50,524,874 committed to nine players. That means one needs to add in three roster charges (cap space can't be used until there is a total of 12 salaries or holds against the team's salary). of $525,093 each. That gives the Spurs a total of $52,100,153 against the cap for the purpose of free agency. There are ways around the roster charges, but we can talk about that later.

    With that in mind, the Spurs will have $14,399,847 in cap room under this scenario. That's really not enough to do a whole lot with. Lucky for them, the 2015 cap may be significantly higher than the current projections -- up over $70 Million. That would give them enough space to offer a near-max salary, but there aren't many scenarios where the team will be able to eek out max space without letting go of someone they would probably want to keep, especially since the team is likely to want to bring back another player or two like Baynes or Beli. Someone will have to take less, or else the idea of getting a premiere free agent seems like a pipe dream.

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    If you replace Tiagos 8.5M with the 6M reported from Tim & remove Mills 3.5M you go from 14M in cap space in the above scenario to the 18M you need for LMA. Then you sign Green.

    They offer Green 10M and you essentially stay under the luxury tax and can dip into it to bring back your players and your picks. But would they do this?

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