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    Biggest issue for the Spurs remains, no backup SF/shooter. According to the current rotation, either Kawhi will have to play 48 minutes a night or one of Green/Manu will have to play SF for part of the time, leaving holes on the defensive end.

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    Yeah. Sacramento was offering a 3 year/26 million dollar deal, starting spot, a no trade clause, and part ownership in the team with tons of incentives.

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    Either means LaLanne is committed to going overseas of that they just don't care if they lose his rights. They might carry seven bigs, but I doubt it.
    To the best of my knowledge, Spurs don't lose rights to Lalanne if he plays overseas.

    If Lalanne plays in the d-league, which is likely (if he doesn't make the 15 man roster), then he'll presumably be counted as one of three affiliate that can't be signed by other teams.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/dleague_faqs.html

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    Its ok, we are so stacked that Bon Lovi wont be seeing any significant minutes.
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    Glad to have him. I hated him back when we needed an actual good player, but as a deep bench guy he's a good occasional piece vs the Ibakas of the world, plus he's a plus guy in the locker room.

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    Without counting Reggie Williams salary, Spurs will have 14 guaranteed contracts:
    - If West sign an one year contract (count for $947,276 against the tax), I have Spurs $64K above the tax
    - If West sign a 2 years contract with likely the second year being a player option (count for $1,499,187 against the tax), I have Spurs $620K above the tax.

    Diaw salary could possibly end up being a little lower than the figure I use ($7.5M) provided he doesn't reach his incentives. In this case, Spurs could end up below the tax if West is on an one year contract.
    Surely, they didn't have Tim sign for $5 million, give the franchise an opportunity to transition from the GOAT in as seamless a way that has been seen in sports, got DG to leave another player's worth of money on the table, have the basketball Gods drop the gift of David West in your lap for PATFO to worry about paying the tax one year when their revenues are fixing to skyrocket. The luxury tax should not be even considered at this point so as not to change the karma if for no other reason.

    And Matt Bonner is good karma.

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    To the best of my knowledge, Spurs don't lose rights to Lalanne if he plays overseas.

    If Lalanne plays in the d-league, which is likely (if he doesn't make the 15 man roster), then he'll presumably be counted as one of three affiliate that can't be signed by other teams.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/dleague_faqs.html

    If he plays overseas or in the d-league without signing any contract from the Spurs, they keep his rights. The moment he inks a deal with the Spurs, they lose his rights if they cut him. If he signs in the d-league after getting cut in camp, any team can sign him if they wish.

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    rather have him than Copeland tbh
    Without a doubt

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    If Lalanne is relegated to the D-League, there is still one more spot to sign him. Or, Williams could be cut as well. Or, Milutinov could stay overseas.

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    If Lalanne is relegated to the D-League, there is still one more spot to sign him. Or, Williams could be cut as well. Or, Milutinov could stay overseas.
    Did McCallum die?

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    If he plays overseas or in the d-league without signing any contract from the Spurs, they keep his rights. The moment he inks a deal with the Spurs, they lose his rights if they cut him. If he signs in the d-league after getting cut in camp, any team can sign him if they wish.
    Well, then there's no need to sign Lalanne 'til they're sure there's a spot for him; and they'll keep his rights for the time being.

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    That chart was published after the McCallum trade to (may have been made before it; and the author was too lazy to rework the numbers / article). Either way, I see potential space to sign Ayers if the Spurs decide to take that course.

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    Glad to have him. I hated him back when we needed an actual good player, but as a deep bench guy he's a good occasional piece vs the Ibakas of the world, plus he's a plus guy in the locker room.
    Maybe return to form on his threes, too. I'm thinking that's the hope and the gamble here.

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    That chart was published after the McCallum trade to (may have been made before it; and the author was too lazy to rework the numbers / article). Either way, I see potential space to sign Ayers if the Spurs decide to take that course.
    If the Spurs bring back Ayres, even with Boylen leaving, I'm rage quitting.

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    If the Spurs bring back Ayres, even with Boylen leaving, I'm rage quitting.
    He's a big who can bang and eat up fouls. It's not as much a necessity in today's NBA; but there's always gonna be some value in that. Frankly, I'd rather have that than a repeat performance from Williams. If you stick with Williams, you're banking on the guy continuing to progress.

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    Best video director on the team tbh.


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    Any 5th or 6th big whose presence can affect a series (regardless of performance) as Bonner did against OKC 2 years ago is certainly worth the minimum. Throw in that he knows and accepts his role, is well-liked in the locker room, and that his knowledge of the system will be especially useful in the early part of the season while the new bigs learn, and this is a good signing. Also, the enjoyment of the Red Mamba effectively trolling ST has high entertainment value that some plodding nondescript end of the bench big just can't have.
    Exactly.

    I don't get why anyone would hate this. This isn't the past few years, where fourth big was a question mark and his particular skill filled a need. In a sense, it still does, since none of the bigs are the 3-point shooter he is, but with the amount of shooting and overall quality they now possess at his position, it would take 3 bigs being injured simultaneously for him to be a rotation player.


    Considering that the Spurs appeared ready to let Bonner walk a few days ago, I think this move may be a sign that the Spurs are now higher on Kyle Anderson (and possibly Jonathon Simmons). If they think Anderson is a legit backup small forward (and he's looked the part over the last two or three summer league games), suddenly you don't really have to sign an old retread and can instead wait and possibly shop the buyout market later in the year.

    SG: Green, Ginobili, Simmons, McCallum, Mills
    SF: Leonard, Anderson, Green, Ginobili, Simmons (?), Diaw (?)

    That depth is pretty good if Anderson has convinced the Spurs he's a real NBA player and Simmons has convinced the Spurs he's a prospect worthy of a minutes to analyze further.
    Whether Anderson looks like a rotation player or not is only half of the equation; the other half is, does he look like one who fits alongside Ginobili? The answer is still a resounding no.

    They clearly need a pure shooter. For all the talk about the amount of shooting in the big rotation, the only knockdown three-point shooters on the roster, are Green, Mills and Bonner (who's basically irrelevant, as the sixth big).

    Even though he basically plays SG on offense, Mills can't defend the position, so he doesn't count as an SG option.

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    I get it, they need shooters.. but the guy can't shoot anymore.

    inb4 some jackass say's " he shot nearly 40% ", for one he's coming off his second worst 3 PT% of his career, and for a guy who does absolutely nothing but fire away 3's, he should be shooting at least 55% to truly be effective for the Spurs

    Now he takes away minutes and a spot from someone younger. Stupid signing IMO.
    Bad take. Just because he "should be shooting 55%" according to you "to be effective" because that's all he does, doesn't mean that's any sort of reality. All he has to be is good enough for defenders to honor the shot and defend him. 37%, his second worst percentage, is still good enough to force defenders to have to honor it. That 37%, not even his 40-41% usual pace, is still 2 percentage points higher than Aldridge's career number at 35%, I believe. And, it's not a safe assumption that he will stay at 37%, or lower. He may bounce back toward the mean, or, gasp, even overshoot it at 45-50% in order to maintain that mean. That sometimes happens. That's how means work. But, even at 37%, he would be the best 3-point shooting big on the team. NOT redundant as some have said.

    He has some limited defensive ability, is a great guy for corporate knowledge reasons, as many have said. And, his little pump fake drive and jump hook in the lane isn't exactly inefficient. I think he hits that at a pretty decent clip.

    Plenty of worse guys we could have for the minimum. Ayres and Copeland are probably two of them. I was not looking forward to Copeland from what little I know of him.

    Shooting 37% from 3 is the equivalent of shooting 55.5% from inside the arc. Still very respectable, and requiring guarding.
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    Ibaka repellant

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    This. Forgot the part where the er passes up open shots, and his shot isn't respected anymore though.
    Of course it is, OKC game as previously exemplified by BillMc. And, in the regular season, let them not honor it, and he'll knock it down at a substantial clip, in the 0-10 minutes per game he gets. Big deal.

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    It's not enough to wet the bed. Sign the new Richard Jefferson, and don't worry about the cap pressure. The real beauty is the following stages of bed wettery.

    Ignore the cold shivers. Green, Timmy, Manu there's some wiggle room there.

    Induce a nightmarish dream. Why would you want a return on investment? Splitter and Joseph can practically just go.

    Then there's what you hope is the final stage. Give up and hide the wet linen, this is the faux encore. The icing on the cake moves. Bring in Bobarian. Take a look at Copeland, pretend you couldn't send Beli and Baynes away before the deadline. Send LJC back to France. Admit summer league is just a show for Anderson and Simmons, nobody else ever had a real shot. And of course re-sign Matt Bonner. Real solid stuff.

    Then there's the encore... the moment we have asked for and shall recieve... mom and dad finding out... the tragic playoff bounce! perhaps in conference finals to Golden State, to be fair the Spurs did a pretty good job making the bed look normal. Ah, but the stench of dry piss is too strong! If mom and dad didn't smell it, they surely noticed the Spurs sheet-less bed rash. I'm holding out hope for a truly unexpected surprise, last years Clippers is too easy. The Spurs are better than that, what i'm imagining is something incredible. a first round exit to the 7 seed timberwolves, a truly triumphant moment for KG. He can go on to be the coach of a new, much less Bonnery/bed wettery small town dynasty. or an uglier small town dynasty story. A second round exit to the breath of fresh air Billy Donovan Thunder. All that depth, and even a touch a Spursy flavor like Collisons ridiculous longevity and the totally unfathomable presence of Novak. Money on the thunder, but God i hope KG is hungry.

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    If Lalanne is relegated to the D-League, there is still one more spot to sign him. Or, Williams could be cut as well. Or, Milutinov could stay overseas.
    If Williams is not cut, there is no spot for Lalanne or Errors(we added mccallum and simmons) And It's was confirmed a while ago that milutinov isn't coming over.

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    Of course it is, OKC game as previously exemplified by BillMc. And, in the regular season, let them not honor it, and he'll knock it down at a substantial clip, in the 0-10 minutes per game he gets. Big deal.
    A game, 2 years ago, where he scored 6 points should not be a reason why he's still taking up a roster spot. He shot 37% from deep last year and chances are greater that he'll be even worse from there a year older.

    Btw... the real Ibaka killer that game was


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    It's not enough to wet the bed. Sign the new Richard Jefferson, and don't worry about the cap pressure. The real beauty is the following stages of bed wettery.

    Ignore the cold shivers. Green, Timmy, Manu there's some wiggle room there.

    Induce a nightmarish dream. Why would you want a return on investment? Splitter and Joseph can practically just go.

    Then there's what you hope is the final stage. Give up and hide the wet linen, this is the faux encore. The icing on the cake moves. Bring in Bobarian. Take a look at Copeland, pretend you couldn't send Beli and Baynes away before the deadline. Send LJC back to France. Admit summer league is just a show for Anderson and Simmons, nobody else ever had a real shot. And of course re-sign Matt Bonner. Real solid stuff.

    Then there's the encore... the moment we have asked for and shall recieve... mom and dad finding out... the tragic playoff bounce! perhaps in conference finals to Golden State, to be fair the Spurs did a pretty good job making the bed look normal. Ah, but the stench of dry piss is too strong! If mom and dad didn't smell it, they surely noticed the Spurs sheet-less bed rash. I'm holding out hope for a truly unexpected surprise, last years Clippers is too easy. The Spurs are better than that, what i'm imagining is something incredible. a first round exit to the 7 seed timberwolves, a truly triumphant moment for KG. He can go on to be the coach of a new, much less Bonnery/bed wettery small town dynasty. or an uglier small town dynasty story. A second round exit to the breath of fresh air Billy Donovan Thunder. All that depth, and even a touch a Spursy flavor like Collisons ridiculous longevity and the totally unfathomable presence of Novak. Money on the thunder, but God i hope KG is hungry.
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