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    I don't think that's accurate at all and it's getting a little concerning. Spurs are the oldest team in the league. They haven't added a draft pick to the roster in five years that's contributing significantly to the team. They've traded away picks for short term fixes in Claxton, shedding Roses contract (two first rounders) and have only a possibly serviceable backup PG and some overseas players of uncertain NBA potential to show for the last five drafts and years. They passed on a guy Pop wanted, Josh Howard, for Speedy. They've developed but not retained younger talent in Jackson and Brown. They currently have no development players on the team unless you consider Udrih on the roster. Meanwhile a number of teams have brought in young Jackson-type players with potential over the past three years.

    It's time the Spurs shift their focus and start replinishiing youth. The attempted trade of JR Smith for Barry was possibly a recognition of that need (or an attempt to dump Barry for a shorter term contract).
    This is all well and good...but they have 5 draft picks playing and developing over in Europe...add in Beno and the Spurs have drafted several keepers at the F, C and PG spots all in the last 5 years.

    We are old and we do need to hit on some young 2 guard and SF talent...but it's not like the Spurs have just tossed aside their future trying to win now...they've used some picks that will help us in the future and used some of them to aquire veteran players that can help us win now.

    The Spurs generally do a good job with managing their picks and there is little or no room to criticize them...better than any team in the league if you ask me.

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    pretty hard to draft a top prospect when most of our picks are at the end of the draft, thats why we oughta draft unknowns that has been scouted heavily by us, so other teams dont know.

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    Spurs have done a good job in the past but they have gotten out of balance with their mixed of savy vets and youth with potential. One of their strengths has been identiying young talent, be it in the oate rounds, waiver wire, summer league, and developing that talent. They haven't capitalized on that.

    Maybe Sanikidze will rehab (I'm guessing he's surrep iously working out with the Spurs in some form as well) and pan out. Scoal or Javtokas might finally land and be significant contributors, Mahinmi as well, he's the one I feel most confident about. But those and Beno are all the Spurs have cooking right now. Dallas, Phoenix and Detroit are all trying to foster more young talent on their squads.

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    Well Beno is playing out of his mind right now, so I think he is comming along nicley, and you can always consdier Tony a prospect if you want after all he is the same age as Beno and would be 1 year removed from being a college senior right now, so i suppose he is still developing.

    Sandizkid is a SF and the Spurs seem to be very high on him. It would awesome to see him come in and contribute next season, the scoutign report on him reads he is a long guy with some ability to penetrate and a really nice shot (although apparently his release is ackward) defensivly im sure he would be a liability in his first season or two, but hopefully Pop can turn him into a servicable defensive player as well.

    I think this team is ready for a youth movemnt, and luckily we have the pieces in place do that.

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    Sandizkid is a SF and the Spurs seem to be very high on him.
    I haven't read or heard boo about any Spurs' comments of their feelings abouit Sanikidze potential for ages.

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    They passed on a guy Pop wanted, Josh Howard, for Speedy.
    Actually, they got Speedy for Salmons. They passed on Howard (and Speedy too for that matter with his 4th year option) for Jason Kidd.

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    Shame on me for fogetting the Kidd abomination. At least they didn't sign Kidd.

    Speedy was the prize for Krstic being picked off by NJ. Another bad Spurs move by telegaraphing that he was their target.

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    This is what i think about sani and ian, we should bring them over and get them training against nba guyz, not euro scrubs. Even if they dont get pt at least they be trainin with the team, and who knows we mite have another milicic who explodes once given the pt.

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    This is what i think about sani and ian, we should bring them over and get them training against nba guyz, not euro scrubs. Even if they dont get pt at least they be trainin with the team, and who knows we mite have another milicic who explodes once given the pt.
    Mahinmi, maybe, because they have 4-5 years worth of options on a first rounder. Sanikidze is a 2nd round pick, and they need to be sure he's ready. Second rounders normally get 2-3 year deals, and they don't want to have that time ticking with him on the bench or inactive.

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    Mahinmi didn't play in Le Havre's game yesterday against Reims. Anyone know why?


    Also a little news on Mahinmi from anothr board.

    In a recent interview with the French magazine Basketnews, Jean-Luc Monschau (Le Havre coach) gave some information about the youngsters of his team, Ian Mahinmi and Aldo Curti.
    He said that he is very satisfied with the evolution of Mahinmi since the beginning of the season. He is doing a lot of physical work this season, something he couldn't do last season because of some injuries. He need now to become an offensive player, in the beginning of last season, ha had no offensive move at all. After being drafted, he felt a lot of pressure, because he was a player with 6pts and 4rebs per game. He is now starting to face some double teams, something completely new for Mahinmi. He starts to play now withthe back to the basket and tries some moves. On every play, he receives the ball now to create. He starts even playing at the power forward spot. He has still some foul trouble, but it is because of his age, estimates the coach. His contract gives him no buyout for this season, so he can change to the team he wants to. But the Spurs are supervising everything on his contractual situation.
    Aldo Curti is progressing, but you still don't see it in the games. He has a lot of confidence at practice but he still cannot transform it on the court in games.
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    thats good to hear, at leasts spurs should be organizing and takin charge of his contract negotiations in europe, We dont want another scola situation in our hands.

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    Mahinmi didn't play in Le Havre's game yesterday against Reims. Anyone know why?
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    He has a sprained ankle, did not train this week but should be back next week end. It happened at training and is not bad.

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    Mahinmi had a game yesterday where he scored 13 points and had 5 rebounds in 20 minutes. Looks like he had a little foul problem again. Thing that strikes me from the stats is that in 20 minutes he drew 11 fouls. Seems like he's getting to be a handful. Any updates Bruno?

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    Mahinmi had a game yesterday where he scored 13 points and had 5 rebounds in 20 minutes. Looks like he had a little foul problem again. Thing that strikes me from the stats is that in 20 minutes he drew 11 fouls. Seems like he's getting to be a handful. Any updates Bruno?

    Nothing special.
    It was his third game since his ankle injury. He is playing better each game, i think he will be back soon in the starting lineup.
    His team is playing better too since the return of his best player (Tony Stanley).
    For his game yesterday : You're right 11 fouls drawn in 20 minutes is amazing. Even if I haven't watch the game, it shows that he was dominant in the paint on the offensive end (a la Shaq : a foul is the only way to stop him).

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    I hope Ian's ready next year.

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    Any chance he'll be in Spurs summer league? or does he have international commitments in July?

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    Any chance he'll be in Spurs summer league? or does he have international commitments in July?
    He will play the U20 euro championship with the french team. (14-23 July in Turkei)

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    I think Mahinmi expects to be playing for the French Under 20 team this summer.

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    Right at the same time of the RMR....

    Hopefully, the Spurs join a second summer league so we can get a look at him.

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    Would the Spurs even bring him for a summer league unless they intended to sign him for '06-'07?

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    They brought in Karaulov last summer.

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    I don't think that it'll be necessary for Mahinmi to go to summer league before the Spurs decide to sign him. It's tough to get a good look at bigmen in that setting, plus they're scouting him enough to know what he needs to work on.

    I don't think he comes over next year, but if the centers continue to suck the Spurs may be forced to speed up his development.

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    He will play the U20 euro championship with the french team. (14-23 July in Turkei)
    Thanks.
    Yeah ChumpDumper is right, RMR is the same time.
    Las Vegas Summer League starts on July 6th (?) but I doubt the Spurs will have a team there.

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    Karalaulov I'd guess they were sizing up against a defined level of talent, seeing what, if anythig he had. I have a feeling they have a better feel for what and where Mahinmi is.

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    In summer league this year, it'll be nice to see what Sanikidze can do. He had AK47 hype around the draft, so hopefully he can at least be the long three the Spurs need.

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