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    The majority of free Southern blacks owned slaves.
    So what was that actual number?

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    Ideally there'd be no 'local rates of tax' increases i.e. 1% local tax increase in California. There'd be no one state that has higher or lower tax rates than another. It'd be 50% universally. It's all about giving power to the federal government, and loosening local government power when it comes to taxes..
    you don't understand America.

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    So what was that actual number?
    In the roots link I posted. Detailed breakdown even to what percentage of free blacks owned how many.

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    In the roots link I posted. Detailed breakdown even to what percentage of free blacks owned how many.
    OK, so?

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    The majority of free Southern blacks owned slaves.
    So what was that actual number?
    In the roots link I posted. Detailed breakdown even to what percentage of free blacks owned how many.
    i dont think u read ur link thoroughly then... some states had higher percentages, but never a majority. all in all, according to their numbers, 1.1% of free blacks owned slaves. and the article also grants that some of these could have been free blacks "owning" one of their own to protect them


    So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.


    Pressly also shows that the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. So why did these free black people own these slaves?

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    Not another tax...geesh

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    i dont think u read ur link thoroughly then... some states had higher percentages, but never a majority. all in all, according to their numbers, 1.1% of free blacks owned slaves. and the article also grants that some of these could have been free blacks "owning" one of their own to protect them


    So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.


    Pressly also shows that the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. So why did these free black people own these slaves?
    Definitely did not read thoroughly still shocking numbers.

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    a lot of the slave traders in Africa were blacks.
    Most were.

    African's were selling their own kind.

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    So what was that actual number?
    Look at the 1860 census.

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    i dont think u read ur link thoroughly then... some states had higher percentages, but never a majority. all in all, according to their numbers, 1.1% of free blacks owned slaves. and the article also grants that some of these could have been free blacks "owning" one of their own to protect them


    So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.


    Pressly also shows that the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. So why did these free black people own these slaves?
    Philo being Philo.

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    Most were.

    African's were selling their own kind.
    So slavery was OK?

    Why are people bringing these things up like they are shocking revelations?

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    So slavery was OK?

    Why are people bringing these things up like they are shocking revelations?
    it's the usual rightwingnut bull defense: Dems are just as bad as Repugs, black slave traders/owners are just a bad as white slave traders/owners

    so, everything is, every one is BAD, and that's cool.

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    So slavery was OK?

    Why are people bringing these things up like they are shocking revelations?
    "They were selling themselves to us, how could we refuse?"
    -White slaveowner

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    I didn't make a count, but there were several people who refused to sign and they were applauded for it.
    I guess I stopped watching too early. I heard it will never pass, but did not hear a refusal on principal. I will watch it again.

    Yep. The Hispanic guy with the sweat shirt was the first.

    The animosity towards whites is clearly present. Wonder why?
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    Oh yeah, I forgot taxing the people who have more money makes no sense to Neocons because 'wealth creators '.
    What the are you talking about? Neo-cons tend to be fairly Keynsian because running budget deficits helps fund overseas war.

    ter McGee

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    I heard it will never pass, but did not hear a refusal on principal.
    Really? A phony proposition made up to get clicks on YouTube isn't going to become law? I thought it had a chance, tbh.

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    What the are you talking about? Neo-cons tend to be fairly Keynsian because running budget deficits helps fund overseas war.

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    what credible US politician isn't "fairly Keynsian"? What politician wasn't proposing/supporting some sore of economic stimulus package in 2008?

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    what credible US politician isn't "fairly Keynsian"? What politician wasn't proposing/supporting some sore of economic stimulus package in 2008?
    in 2008, the only plan was Repugs' TARP, which all Repugs voted against (so they could tell their stupid, ignorant base they were against EVERYTHING Obama).

    in 2009, ARRA votes:

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/111-2009/h46

    Further stimulus was needed, but Repugs blocked any discussion.

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    no stimulus was needed
    people make bad choices they pay the price

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    Really? A phony proposition made up to get clicks on YouTube isn't going to become law? I thought it had a chance, tbh.
    Read my entire post again ya freakn moron.

    I was echoing the targets on the vid.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot taxing the people who have more money makes no sense to Neocons because 'wealth creators '.
    So you think it's fair to take more money away from people that have worked hard for it? Isn't that theft?

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    So you think it's fair to take more money away from people that have worked hard for it? Isn't that theft?
    Hey got. Did you know that 99% of millionaires pay a lower percentage of taxes than their secretaries? Isn't that theft? got?

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    So you think it's fair to take more money away from people that have worked hard for it? Isn't that theft?
    Define "worked hard"

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    Hey got. Did you know that 99% of millionaires pay a lower percentage of taxes than their secretaries? Isn't that theft? got?
    Link got?

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    Hey got. Did you know that 99% of millionaires pay a lower percentage of taxes than their secretaries? Isn't that theft? got?
    >thinking that comes from a flat tax rate
    >not understanding how the tax loopholes work
    >not understanding how investments work


    kek, I bet you believe in the left and right too



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