Who says jimmer could have gotten other contracts from other teams?
Jimmer is a great value. That doesn't mean that the Spurs don't have options, dude.
You're in the Jimmer needs to be fixed camp, btw. That's not so much me. I think he's a guy who can produce right away. None of that means he doesn't have areas of his game to work on.
Who says jimmer could have gotten other contracts from other teams?
30>19 is almost doubling?
Anyways, last year was a down year. I'll be the first to tell you that if Jimmer doesn't drop bombs like he's able, his career will be cut short. But everyone and their dog knows that Jimmer is one of the best shooters around. So, the question you should be asking yourself is why the dramatic dip in shooting? Or you can misguidedly try to make the case that RM is a better shooter than Jimmer; up to you, I guess.
Yea, I guess nobody wanted Kobe and his terrible assist to turnover ratio...oh, wait.
I'm not saying that a:t is a bad stat. I'm saying it's not what you make it out to be. Certainly though, there's room for improvement. And it should improve now that Jimmer's going to a team with better finishers. He does need to work on his handles though. That's an area of his game that I think he neglected a bit. He should've did what Curry did and hired a ball handler specialist to put him through drills.
Yea, that's not a counter to what I was arguing. And Jimmer is 'over himself' regardless.
I don't think I'd argue that RM doesn't have the upper hand in some fashion at this point. But Jimmer is instant offense; and once we see him lighting teams up, then your argument's meaning won't seem like what you think it is.
Very unlikely that Jimmer got an offer from another team(not sure if someone claimed that or not). He's going to have to really outplay some players that already have guaranteed contracts to make the team.
My understanding is that Reggie Williams is signed with a partial guarantee like Jimmer. So, I think the decision on the most basic level is between them. That doesn't mean that Eddie can't get the spot or that McCallum can't be cut. I think that Jimmer will make the squad if he plays like he's capable.
Let's be clear, I didn't make it out to be anything. It's widely used. I was also not even the first to bring it up. Someone else told you how bad Jimmer's ratio was. They were off a little though as it's about 1.75. Still ty. But, not me. I didn't make it out to be anything it is not, or even bring it up. It is one stat of many, it gives some glimpse, and it is not a positive one. I used their number, but do agree with them. And, Kobe? LMFAO. You're comparing a HOFer with Jimmer based upon his asst to turnover ratio. No, Kobe's ratio isn't that relevant. Kobe had a few other things to hang his hat on when he sold himself on the market. You are tryin' to market a limited Jimmer as a point guard, quite significantly, and Jimmer doesn't have Kobe's other talents. So, yes, Jimmer's ratio will be relevant and scrutinized. Lastly, one of the most criticized aspects of Kobe's game was he was a black hole that didn' get his teammates involved, so even that aspect of Kobe's game was scrutinized! I don't know that it's a win for you to be comparing him to Kobe. And, Kobe is not a PG, either. Compare him to PG if you want to talk up his ability to play that position and talk down McCallum's, but you probably tried to find some other PG with ty ratios and found out they were all ty players so you ran with Kobe.
But, could he improve in a better situation, sure. He could. But, he still has an uphill battle vs the points as a point, or the shootings as a shooting guard.
I think I'm going to enjoy the rest of my evening now offline, but I urge you to rethink and listen to that interview if you have any hope that McCallum will be cut.
Bernie Sanders is an idiot FYI
No way in McCallum will be cut.
but he probably should be
I doubt any of us have seen him play enough to make that call.
Okay, I'll be honest.Let's be honest here..if Fredette was Black, this thread wouldn't be 22 pages, tbh..
He is a high draft pick that has been on a number of ty teams but if you watched him in college you know he has some ability. Most of us look forward to seeing what he can do in San Antonio, not because he is white, but because he has ability and now a team that can bring it out.
he looks ty to me, and out of control. Its all relevant though, because all that playing in the nba acquires is experience. Give him some time... but play Jimmer first.
Tebow won one playoff game and then got destroyed. Even when he was "winning", he was horrible statistically. The point I was making is that despite being a high-character guy, he didn't seem to think he needed to make obvious changes to his game to make it to the pros. The same seems true of Jimmer. He's been in the league for too damned long to shoot like his does.
Essentially, people who are arguing that the Spurs' system will get the best out of him are asserting that the looks he'll get will allow him to show how good of a shooter he is. But there are probably a hundred players who can make threes at a good rate if all they do is spot up. I'd much rather have Eddie, who's a better shooter and bigger (and younger) over Jimmer for the role Fredette would have.I think you are mis-characterizing the idea that Jimmer needs people to get him open looks.
Don't understand this at all.But you only bring him up if you think he's going to get a critical mass of minutes.
Tough to see Jimmer's making the routine.
i wonder when will playjimmer trolll show up
Here is the question I have.
If McCallum is so much better than Jimmer, why did San Antonio sign Jimmer? Why waste the money on a guy they know will not make the team. Could have gotten a young D League guy with potential for that.
If you don't know, you should look at Green. He is a guy everyone else gave up on, but the Spurs brought him in and made him exceptional, I see them doing the same with JF.
Wow...25 pages and still going strong...all for a 15th slot guy...
impressive...
They have an open spot counting McCallum. Despite the takes from some posters here, there is no compe ion between them for a roster spot.
We go through this any time a bust shows up on the Spurs. Not every player who gets cut is Danny Green. And to say the Spurs made him is misleading. He worked his ass off in that lost year to become a clearer role-player, taking 1000 shots a day to improve. He also made a commitment to being a hustle guy and changing his entire perspective on his own talent. Few players (especially those on the league's fringe) have Green's dedication or humility, and honestly, it doesn't look like Jimmer is one of those given the fact that his shot is still broken after all these years.If you don't know, you should look at Green. He is a guy everyone else gave up on, but the Spurs brought him in and made him exceptional, I see them doing the same with JF.
Fredette is going to have to put college behind him and figure out what he needs to fix to become a serviceable NBA player. If he has the at ude of many of his fans, he only has three more months left in his NBA career.
Haven't seen spur this hard for a ty player since Fat Curry got a camp invite.
Thank God you don't evaluate NBA players for an NBA team. You seem very confident that he won't work out and will be cut from training camp. Fortunately, the Spurs have highly respected and well trained player personnel people and development coaches. They will give him and the other camp invites every opportunity to show they deserve that final spot. They have no preconceived conclusions about any players before camp starts. If Jimmer makes the team it's because he earned it. If he doesn't, there's no harm to the Spurs. To me, this seems like a good move with the potential to get a player with some potential upside if in the right system. There are examples of many guards who have bounced around before finding the right fit - I.e Steve Kerr, John Paxson, John Starks, Danny Green, Jason Williams, etc.
What a stupid take. The Spurs clearly aren't confident in Fredette's place on the team, because they didn't guarantee for the year. It's just completely likely that he'll be cut during training camp.
He'll only get "every opportunity" if he plays like he's worth it off the bat.Fortunately, the Spurs have highly respected and well trained player personnel people and development coaches. They will give him and the other camp invites every opportunity to show they deserve that final spot.
Of course they do. That's how they decide who to pursue for camp spots.They have no preconceived conclusions about any players before camp starts.
Duh. I don't think anyone has said otherwise.If Jimmer makes the team it's because he earned it. If he doesn't, there's no harm to the Spurs.
That's fine. Last time I checked, I didn't criticize the Spurs' decision to make this move at all. Thinking Fredette is not a good player isn't he same thing as thinking the Spurs shouldn't have taken a chance on him.To me, this seems like a good move with the potential to get a player with some potential upside if in the right system.
At least the recent guys on that list seem more like players who matured enough to fit their roles. Again, in between getting cut by the Cavs and signed on with the Spurs for good, Green went through a lot of growth with his at ude and game. There's a really long article that's been posted on this site a few times detailing it. To chalk his development simply to the "Spurs system" is such a flat analysis. Dude simply worked hard to get back into the league. From the little I've seen of Jimmer, he still hasn't gotten to that point. He still has the exact game he had in college. If he's sitting back and thinking "The Spurs will be able to showcase my talents," then he's very far from a roster spot, even though the team has thusofar signed no compe ion.There are examples of many guards who have bounced around before finding the right fit - I.e Steve Kerr, John Paxson, John Starks, Danny Green, Jason Williams, etc.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions