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    Mills said he was fine to play the Oceania tournament but that he couldn't play the preparation tournament in Europe. To me, it sounds like a lot of BS and it's just that he didn't want to spend these weeks with the NT practicing/playing in Europe. I just don't wee why he isn't able to play games in late July but can in mid August while his season has ended in early May.

    My guess about Fredette is jut that Spurs think he is the best they can do in free agency to play a Gary Neal/Roger Mason role.
    I assume the same. But I still think it's worth keeping an eye on Mills. He seems to be fully over the injury look at the playoffs, but he also played arguably his best ball with the tear. The way Jimmer's contract is set up, it seems like the team wants him available to spell guys in the first half of the season. Could totally see them going easy on Mills in addition to Parker and Manu (as far as perimeter players go) this season.
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    29 pages on a guy who can barely dribble. Crazy.
    Half of this thread is an integrated "McCallum vs. CoJo" debate.
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    So it's probably him getting the axe first. Or Bonner if he's lightly guaranteed and Pop decides to go for perimeter depth rather than a 6th big...
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    I assume the same. But I still think it's worth keeping an eye on Mills. He seems to be fully over the injury look at the playoffs, but he also played arguably his best ball with the tear. The way Jimmer's contract is set up, it seems like the team wants him available to spell guys in the first half of the season. Could totally see them going easy on Mills in addition to Parker and Manu (as far as perimeter players go) this season.
    That could be because of potential injuries. It could also be because all of their wing depth has major question marks associated with them. Manu's getting old and less reliable, Simmons hasn't played a single NBA minute and Anderson hasn't proven that he is more than a Summer League and D-League standout. Obviously Jimmer has a plethora of questions surrounding him and his ability, but if you roll the dice enough times eventually you'll hit.
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    I assume the same. But I still think it's worth keeping an eye on Mills. He seems to be fully over the injury look at the playoffs, but he also played arguably his best ball with the tear. The way Jimmer's contract is set up, it seems like the team wants him available to spell guys in the first half of the season. Could totally see them going easy on Mills in addition to Parker and Manu (as far as perimeter players go) this season.
    Two things that Jimmer could do better than McCallum. (1) Setup the offense and (2) shoot the 3. I wasn't too impressed with McCallum's interview, however being a son of a coach, I hope he has a higher level of PG skills. Just from videos alone, I would even go out on a limb and say that Simmons has better passing skills than McCallum.
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    That could be because of potential injuries. It could also be because all of their wing depth has major question marks associated with them. Manu's getting old and less reliable, Simmons hasn't played a single NBA minute and Anderson hasn't proven that he is more than a Summer League and D-League standout. Obviously Jimmer has a plethora of questions surrounding him and his ability, but if you roll the dice enough times eventually you'll hit.
    Regarding rolling the dice, Steve Nash in the beginning of his career was more of a knock-down shooter than a playmaker. Nash wasn't great defensively, but he won like 2 MVPs. Nash in his first 4 years in the NBA average less than 9 points a game. So let's not sell Jimmer short because he can't defend.
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    Two things that Jimmer could do better than McCallum. (1) Setup the offense and (2) shoot the 3. I wasn't too impressed with McCallum's interview, however being a son of a coach, I hope he has a higher level of PG skills. Just from videos alone, I would even go out on a limb and say that Simmons has better passing skills than McCallum.
    I do think people are overrating McCallum's PG skills as they relate to Joseph's but I think he'll be better at setting up the offense than Jimmer would be. Parker's role really is just to beat his man and force the rotation. The offense runs itself after than. McCallum can do that, whereas there are questions about Jimmer's handle and explosiveness. I definitely don't see Fredette starting at PG unless Parker and McCallum are out.
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    I wouldn't definitively rejoice if I was a Jimmer fan because it's possible that Pincus has make a mistake.

    First, before the Fredette signing there was a source reporting that Bonner was 50% guaranteed :
    https://twitter.com/NBACapAnalyst/st...66653979164672

    Now, Pincus is saying that Bonner is fully non guaranteed and Fredette half-guaranted ($508K is half of his $1.05M salary).

    I definitely can see Pincus having mixed Bonner and Fredette lines in his notes. It would also be consistent with report that Fredette contract was a training camp invite.

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    I do think people are overrating McCallum's PG skills as they relate to Joseph's but I think he'll be better at setting up the offense than Jimmer would be. Parker's role really is just to beat his man and force the rotation. The offense runs itself after than. McCallum can do that, whereas there are questions about Jimmer's handle and explosiveness. I definitely don't see Fredette starting at PG unless Parker and McCallum are out.
    Cojo barely played in the playoffs. That's because Cojo's main purpose was to replace Parker when Parker was inactive. Mills is the spark-plug guy that come's in after Parker. I seriously doubt Mills plays alongside McCallum or Jimmer, that would be an extremely undersized back court. In the event Manu is also out, Mills partner would likely be Simmons. Which leads to this intriguing backup lineup:

    Mills
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    Anderson
    Diaw
    West

    That's a lot of fire power.
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    I wouldn't definitively rejoice if I was a Jimmer fan because it's possible that Pincus has make a mistake.

    First, before the Fredette signing there was a source reporting that Bonner was 50% guaranteed :
    https://twitter.com/NBACapAnalyst/st...66653979164672

    Now, Pincus is saying that Bonner is fully non guaranteed and Fredette half-guaranted ($508K is half of his $1.05M salary).

    I definitely can see Pincus having mixed Bonner and Fredette lines in his notes. It would also be consistent with report that Fredette contract was a training camp invite.

    It makes sense to me that Bonner is ungurananteed. You really want to have Bonner in the first half of the season to get the new bigs familiar with the system. I just don't see him getting much playing time though once West and Boban are comfortable. West is a bigger spacing threat than Bonner will ever be.
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    29 pages on a guy who can barely dribble. Crazy.
    Not only that, but a guy who MAY be the 15th man on the team.

    We have definitely reached the offseason doldrums. Hurry the up, October!
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    scrub whose shot needs fixing
    doing the agent a solid
    competing with Eddie

    All you Jimmer haters can eat a D tbqh. Will bump this whence he earns a spot in the rotation. Feel free to bump and ridicule if I'm wrong. I can take it.
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    Now that there's indication that Jimmer is signed until January, does that also move him up in the rotation since he's a 4 year NBA veteran?
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    NOT EVEN HALF AS GF AS MILLS ON BOTH END
    Half as girlfriend on both end?

    Strong debut.
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    It makes sense to me that Bonner is ungurananteed.
    It could also make sense that Fredette is unguaranteed. At the end what matters is "what is" and not "what makes sense".

    Given all the reports, I strongly thinks that Bonner deal is half guaranteed and that Fredette deal is fully unguaranteed.
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    It could also make sense that Fredette is unguaranteed. At the end what matters is "what is" and not "what makes sense".

    Given all the reports, I strongly thinks that Bonner deal is half guaranteed and that Fredette deal is fully unguaranteed.
    Mark Deeks seems to be in the process of updating his salaries. So I'm waiting to see what he says. He's very rarely wrong when it comes to his contracts.
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    Mark Deeks seems to be in the process of updating his salaries. So I'm waiting to see what he says. He's very rarely wrong when it comes to his contracts.
    You can tweet him and ask him. He's pretty active on twitter and typically responds to salary questions.
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    Mark Deeks seems to be in the process of updating his salaries. So I'm waiting to see what he says. He's very rarely wrong when it comes to his contracts.
    Yep, Eric Pincus is also doing a very nice job and deserves props for it. When there are hundreds of contracts to look at, the occasional mistake is just unavoidable .
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    You can tweet him and ask him. He's pretty active on twitter and typically responds to salary questions.
    Thanks for the info . I'll keep that in mind. Or, more realistically, I'll ask DPG21920 if he can reach out of Deeks on behalf of ST to get clarification on Bonner's and Fredette's contracts.
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    Yep, Eric Pincus is also doing a very nice job and deserves props for it. When there are hundreds of contracts to look at, the occasional mistake is just unavoidable .
    Agreed, and it's very possible that Deeks won't have an answer yet. He seems like a guy who'd rather by right than early.
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    I will tweet at Mark - although our last interaction was him calling me a (wasn't trying to be just made a joke he was oddly sensitive too).
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    I will tweet at Mark - although our last interaction was him calling me a (wasn't trying to be just made a joke he was oddly sensitive too).
    Hopefully, you didn't cause too big of a disturbance.
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    Hopefully, you didn't cause too big of a disturbance.
    I could not imagine, but with his reaction (which was out of nowhere) I don't know. It was when he announced he was stepping down from Basketball Breakdown as the Editor in Chief because he didn't have the time with all of his other ventures.

    I said something along the lines that BBD was doing well and he would be missed and asked if this meant that David Robinson would be removed from Spurs salaries on Shamsports and he called me a d*ck. Didn't think it was a bad thing, but obviously he was sensitive to it.
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    I could not imagine, but with his reaction (which was out of nowhere) I don't know. It was when he announced he was stepping down from Basketball Breakdown as the Editor in Chief because he didn't have the time with all of his other ventures.

    I said something along the lines that BBD was doing well and he would be missed and asked if this meant that David Robinson would be removed from Spurs salaries on Shamsports and he called me a d*ck. Didn't think it was a bad thing, but obviously he was sensitive to it.
    Sure he wasn't being punny back to you?
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    Sure he wasn't being punny back to you?
    Pretty sure. The back and forth stopped after that comment and I just apologized and left it alone.
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