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    The refs will make sure they win at least three of those four games, tbh.
    Their secret has always been Ernie Adams, who supposedly has a private comm link to the qbs, so they'll probably be able to Cassell the situation with Garafalo.

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    The Boston McPancake will not be pleased.

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    In all seriousness has there been a franchise that has cheated more than the pats? I can't remember another team being stripped of a first rounder twice, I could be wrong. At least not with the same regime running things.

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    Does Brady know that they can still find his texts if they subpoena him in federal court?

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    Just heard Schefter say that the NFL offered Brady a 2 game (or maybe even 1 game) suspension as part of the settlement. All he had to do was admit that the equipment managers broke the rules....

    Think I would have taken that one Tom....and threw them s under the bus as fast as possible. Especially, If it was only going to be a 1 game suspension.

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    Apparently Brady destroyed his phone so evidence of his direct involvement couldn't be found. What a piece of

    "You're talking out of your ass!"
    i bet you creamed your pants as you typed that!
    why should brady have to turn over the evidence he destroyed?

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    Does Brady know that they can still find his texts if they subpoena him in federal court?
    I guess not.

    If this goes to court, Brady will have to reveal more than he would have had to reveal to Wells. If that's his plan, it's amazingly stupid.

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    Just heard Schefter say that the NFL offered Brady a 2 game (or maybe even 1 game) suspension as part of the settlement. All he had to do was admit that the equipment managers broke the rules....

    Think I would have taken that one Tom....and threw them s under the bus as fast as possible. Especially, If it was only going to be a 1 game suspension.
    Then his legacy is tarnished

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    Then his legacy is tarnished
    He can take the Roger Clemens route, we all know what it is.

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    The Commissioner's ruling today did nothing to address the legal deficiencies of due process. The NFL*remains stuck with the following facts:
    The NFL had no policy that applied to players;
    The NFL provided no notice of any such policy or potential discipline to players;
    The NFL resorted to a nebulous standard of "general awareness" to predicate a legally unjustified punishment;
    The NFL had no procedures in place until two days ago to test air pressure in footballs;
    AndThe NFL violated the plain meaning of the collective bargaining agreement.

    The fact that the NFL would resort to basing a suspension on a smoke screen of irrelevant text messages instead of admitting that they have all of the phone records they asked for is a new low, even for them, but it does nothing to correct their errors.The NFLPA will appeal this outrageous decision on behalf of Tom Brady.

    -- NFL Players Association

    https://www.nflpa.com/news/all-news/...ame-suspension

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    He can take the Roger Clemens route, we all know what it is.
    Because that's exactly the same thing

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    Because that's exactly the same thing
    Of course it's not precisely analogous, don't be absurd, you're better than that.

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    Then his legacy is tarnished
    I think Tom's "legacy" has pretty much already been cemented. A one game suspension is not going to change much of anything....

    A little off topic (forgive me), but I'll go with it anyways. Who is the GOAT WR in the NFL? I think the consensus would go with Jerry Rice. The guy openly admitted that he used stick'um on his gloves. This was a banned substance. He certainly cheated the integrity of the game....

    Is Jerry Rice's "legacy" forever tarnished because of this? I think most people would say, "No."

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    I think Tom's "legacy" has pretty much already been cemented. A one game suspension is not going to change much of anything....

    A little off topic (forgive me), but I'll go with it anyways. Who is the GOAT WR in the NFL? I think the consensus would go with Jerry Rice. The guy openly admitted that he used stick'um on his gloves. This was a banned substance. He certainly cheated the integrity of the game....

    Is Jerry Rice's "legacy" forever tarnished because of this? I think most people would say, "No."
    Brady lied and destroyed evidence. That's worse than the offense.

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    Brady lied and destroyed evidence. That's worse than the offense.
    Totally agree djohn...and I hope I'm not coming off as the guy who is trying to defend Brady. Cause I'm not. He cheated the rules of the game...and should be punished accordingly.

    I just think when all is said and done....he will still be considered one of (if not the) GOATs. The whole "legacy" is tarnished forever is going a little far IMO. Brad Johnson said that he tampered with the footballs before the SB against Oakland. I don't think many people consider that Buccaneers team "cheaters" or that SB is "tarnished".

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    Then his legacy is tarnished
    It already is, cuck.

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    So he asks someone else to destroy his cellphone adding another witness to his unwillingness to cooperate.

    Brilliant.

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    The Master Kraftsman once said the NFL would be lucky to be able to apologize to the entire Patriots organization...
    1 million dollars, a first round draft choice, and a suspended QB later he is not saying much.
    Curious...

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    If Goodell wasn't Kraft's little -boy, Brady's suspension would have been increased to a full year.
    He should be banned.

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    Brady just released a statement.

    " I didn't destroy my phone. It was broken "

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    Brady just released a statement.

    " I didn't destroy my phone. It was broken "
    Brady's talking out of his ass. How did it break, who broke it, and when was it broken? None of this is answered in his bull -ass statement.

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    Brady is probably no different than all of us in the sense that he sends racist, phobic, and sexist texts to his friends in jest. There's no way that he was turning over his cell phone to the league and no way he risks going to federal court where they can get a court order to read all of his texts through his cell provider. Deflating footballs would then be the least of his problems.

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    Of course it's not precisely analogous, don't be absurd, you're better than that.
    Well one problem with your analogy is that deflating the football doesn't allow a QB to throw it harder or more accurately. There's no advantage.

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