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    Thanks for the post. I wasn't aware of that investigation.

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    That's two investigations that found nothing. I bet someone still posts the next video.

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    That's two investigations that found nothing. I bet someone still posts the next video.
    selling fetal issue at cost isn't illegal, no matter what the at ude and tone of the buyers and sellers are. At ude and tone aren't illegal.

    btw, apparently fetal tissue research, as useful as it has been FOR DECADES, is declining.

    As always, the fetal tissue sting, just like Christ would do, is only to fabricate outrage over a non-problem.

    Killing PP would hurt Ms women, even kill some, but that's ok. "death paneling" adults is ok, esp when they're are poor non-whites.

    anti-abortion is pro-birth, not pro-child.

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    selling fetal issue at cost isn't illegal, no matter what the at ude and tone of the buyers and sellers are.
    Yeah, these people would be the worst businessmen/women if that's all they were getting for fetal tissue.

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    Planned Parenthood fight hits Congress — and the wider impact is unclear




    Women’s health group Planned Parenthood, under attack by anti-abortionists posting hidden-camera videos online, will be the focus of a partisan showdown on Monday in the U.S. Senate, with any wider influence on voters from the charge still unclear.

    Congressional Republicans are trying to cut off Planned Parenthood’s federal funding.

    The Senate plans to hold a procedural vote on Monday on a Republican proposal to cut off the funds. Democrats are expected to block it, extending the confrontation.

    Planned Parenthood has hundreds of family planning and reproductive health centers nationwide. It gets up to $500 million per year in Medicaid contributions, and up to $60 million in federal funds for family planning services. U.S. law tightly restricts applying federal funds to abortions.


    Millions of women, many young and single, rely on Planned Parenthood for healthcare beyond abortions and family planning, including breast and cervical cancer screenings.


    The group contributed nearly $1.6 million to candidates in the 2014 elections who backed abortion rights, said the Center for Responsive Politics, a campaign finance watchdog.


    Young, single women are a key demographic for Hillary Clinton, front-runner for the Democratic nomination.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/plan...e+Raw+Story%29

    Repug/Christian Taliban misogyny, in the name of Christ, on full display.



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    Wing-nut conspiracy theorists have done it again: The truth about the Planned Parenthood hoax revealed

    Probes into alleged for-profit organ harvesting have turned up exactly nothing. So why won't the right take a hint?

    For many, especially on the right, no amount of fact-checking will ever be enough.

    There is no evidence that PPLM is involved in any way in the buying or selling of tissue. As such, our review is complete.”

    Gov. Mike Pence, R-Ind., launched an investigation of Planned Parenthood

    “unable to find any non-compliance with state regulations. Therefore, no deficiencies were cited.”

    small government conservatives — conservatives who routinely frown upon wasteful government spending — have successfully prompted frivolous investigations in 12 states, including deeply red ones, all based on obviously fraudulent videos.

    Given how Planned Parenthood clearly isn’t doing what these videos claim, the GOP might as well launch investigations into Keyboard Cat to determine whether it’s really playing that annoying song. That’s exactly how farcical this has become.

    It’s much easier to lapse into a satisfying outrage coma over a stupid video than to accept the clear and incontrovertible reality that Planned Parenthood and similar organizations save lives and prevent abortions — millions more lives saved than abortions performed.

    The Republican Party and the Tea Party conservatives who’ve commandeered it believe, and perhaps rightfully so, that its most active supporters are quite simply gullible knuckleheads who will gladly accept without question anything they’re told, while also categorically rejecting anything that doesn’t conform to the fantasies they’ve rubber-stamped.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/03/wing...hoax_revealed/

    FetusGHAZI !

    BenGHAZI !

    BirtherGHAZI !

    GlobalCoolingGHAZI !

    Repug governance!



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    Fox pundit calls for election day ‘violence’ because Planned Parenthood is worse than Nazis

    Frequent Fox News pundit Erick Erickson suggested recently that conservatives may have to launch a Civil War to stop Planned Parenthood from performing abortions.

    We have passed the point where Nazi comparisons are inappropriate,” Eric wrote in a blog post on Friday.

    “These are children. They entered into the world alive and were killed, chopped up, and sold bit by bit.”


    “If Republicans are not willing to make this their hill to die on and even see the government shutdown to stop this, the Republican Party needs to be shut down,” the conservative blogger insisted. “

    The Party of Lincoln that rose from the ashes of a whig Party that would not stand up to slavery must stand up to this evil.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/fox-...e+Raw+Story%29



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    GOP bill cites ‘seducing spirits and doctrines of devils’ in push to defund Planned Parenthood



    A Republican congressman has introduced legislation that cites two Bible verses as reasons the House of Representatives to should oppose same-sex marriage and block federal grants for Planned Parenthood.
    The symbolic resolution, introduced by Rep. Walter Jones (NC) on July 29, calls on the House to “consider legislation to protect traditional marriage and prevent taxpayer funding of abortion.”

    The resolution begins by stating that the United States is based on “Judeo-Christian principles” and notes that the “creator is explicitly mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.”

    The resolution also says the Supreme Court “invalidated the wishes of States that prohibited same-sex marriage” in its historic Obergefell v. Hodges ruling in June. It goes on to accuse Planned Parenthood of killing “50,000,000 unborn children.”


    Before demanding the House take up four bills related to abortion and LGBT rights, the resolution cites two Bible verses.


    “Whereas in Jeremiah 1:5 the Bible reads ‘Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee.'; and Whereas in 1 Timothy 4:1–5 the Bible reads ‘Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some
    shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils':

    Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives calls upon the Speaker to encourage committee chairs to schedule the following legislation for immediate committee consideration, then follow through with scheduling votes on the House floor if they are reported favorably by their respective committees.”


    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/gop-...e+Raw+Story%29

    Christian Taliban supremacist, OBSESSED with the Old Testament craziness!


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    When you give blood or sell plasma do you grieve?
    Holy , this is a dumber take than the average boutons post. Congratulations.

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    selling fetal issue at cost isn't illegal, no matter what the at ude and tone of the buyers and sellers are. At ude and tone aren't illegal.

    btw, apparently fetal tissue research, as useful as it has been FOR DECADES, is declining.

    As always, the fetal tissue sting, just like Christ would do, is only to fabricate outrage over a non-problem.

    Killing PP would hurt Ms women, even kill some, but that's ok. "death paneling" adults is ok, esp when they're are poor non-whites.

    anti-abortion is pro-birth, not pro-child.
    That's where you are wrong. SELLING it at cost is illegal. RECOVERING costs for the services is legal. That's why PP has stated multiple times in the videos that they have to word it correctly so they don't come across as selling it. CMP is alleging that (and PP was caught admitting that) the price point is constantly changing. PP was recorded stating that they "don't want to lowball" on the price for the specimen, meaning they probably aren't in it just to recover the costs of the services.

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    That's where you are wrong. SELLING it at cost is illegal. RECOVERING costs for the services is legal. That's why PP has stated multiple times in the videos that they have to word it correctly so they don't come across as selling it. CMP is alleging that (and PP was caught admitting that) the price point is constantly changing. PP was recorded stating that they "don't want to lowball" on the price for the specimen, meaning they probably aren't in it just to recover the costs of the services.
    "selling at cost" vs "recovering costs" that's where you are full of

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    Bobby Jindal Cuts Off Medicaid Funding to Planned Parenthoods In Louisiana

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) announced he had ended the state's Medicaid contract with Planned Parenthood in response to an anti-abortion "sting" video campaign against the reproductive health service.

    The move comes despite the fact that
    the two Planned Parenthood clinics in Louisiana do not provide abortion, which Planned Parenthood confirmed to the state's Department of Health and Hospitals as part of the state's ongoing investigation into claims that the organization is profiting off of aborted fetal tissue donations. A third clinic being built in New Orleans plans to offer abortion, but will not participate in the tissue donation programs, a Planned Parenthood executive told the state.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29



    Planned Parenthood Clinic Construction Site Vandalized in New Orleans


    http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/20...ality+Check%29
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    "selling at cost" vs "recovering costs" that's where you are full of
    Nope. As stated by the law, anything that would state "selling" fetal remains would be illegal. If you were right, PP wouldn't be bending over backwards trying to skirt the law. PP went into depth about how they do it in the 4th video.

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    Nope. As stated by the law, anything that would state "selling" fetal remains would be illegal. If you were right, PP wouldn't be bending over backwards trying to skirt the law. PP went into depth about how they do it in the 4th video.
    you're ing around with semantics.

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    you're ing around with semantics.
    Nah man just repeating what PP has stated in the undercover videos.

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    Nah man just repeating what PP has stated in the undercover videos.
    ... none of which is illegal. you're suckered by a standard rightwingnut fabricated scandal.

    btw, defunding PP got slapped in the Senate today.

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    ... none of which is illegal. you're suckered by a standard rightwingnut fabricated scandal.

    btw, defunding PP got slapped in the Senate today.
    Do I need to quote the law again for you? I left you a link a couple days ago and you knowingly ignored it. SELLING fetal tissue remains is illegal. Not a difficult concept. I am not saying PP is guilting. I am saying that the 4 videos released is more then enough for a federal investigation.

    And yes we knew it wouldn't pass the Repubs don't hold a full majority. Nor would it get by Obama either.

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    jesus i just saw this. if this is gna be the GOP campaign wagon, its going to be a train wreck


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    Wing-nut conspiracy theorists have done it again: The truth about the Planned Parenthood hoax revealed
    Probes into alleged for-profit organ harvesting have turned up exactly nothing. So why won't the right take a hint?
    BOB CESCA


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    f you’ve been keeping score at home, you’ll have noticed that not one but two states, including a red state with a paleoconservative governor, have in the past several days exonerated Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing in the so-called secret-video sting that has conservatives calling on Congress to defund the non-profit organization. The appropriate response to this news is, “Of course! Because Planned Parenthood is absolutely not selling fetus parts via some sort of grisly underground marketplace.” For many, especially on the right, no amount of fact-checking will never be enough. But for the sake of the public record, let’s review those exonerating reports again here.

    Last week, Massachusetts’ Attorney General Maura Healey became the latest in what’s sure to be a long list of state attorneys general to conclude the same thing. Specifically, Healy concluded,

    “Over the past week, my office has conducted a thorough review and found that Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts’ health care centers are fully compliant with state and federal laws regarding the disposition of fetal tissue. Although donation of fetal tissue is permissible under state and federal law, PPLM does not have a tissue donation program. There is no evidence that PPLM is involved in any way in the buying or selling of tissue. As such, our review is complete.”



    Sure, Massachusetts is a leftward-leaning state, but Indiana is very much not. Back on July 16, Gov. Mike Pence, R-Ind., launched an investigation of Planned Parenthood following the release of what was obviously a doctored and misleading video. The probe focused on facilities in Indianapolis, Bloomington and Merrillville, and this past week the Indiana Department of Health reported it was “unable to find any non-compliance with state regulations. Therefore, no deficiencies were cited.”

    Because of course.
    more
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/03/wing...hoax_revealed/

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    Do I need to quote the law again for you? I left you a link a couple days ago and you knowingly ignored it. SELLING fetal tissue remains is illegal.
    semantics, look it up.

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    jesus i just saw this. if this is gna be the GOP campaign wagon, its going to be a train wreck

    that's awesome

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    it's true tho

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    Semantics.

    HEB doesn't sell groceries. They just recover their "cost" to get the groceries in my cart.

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    5th video released today. Although they aren't calling it the 5th.

    http://youtu.be/egGUEvY7CEg

    continues to show PP discussing and agreeing that these procedures are a revenue source not just to cover costs.

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