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    Sure, sure... I bet they would have simply stopped at Europe had they won.
    Do you really not know your history? Germany had to way of invading the USA and mocked the idea when we suggested it to get people behind the war.

    you have no understanding about national socialist ideology, what drove them to war, what they wanted, etc. you took your out of a Jew written textbook in some USA school.
    Last edited by m>s; 08-26-2015 at 09:22 AM.

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    lolwut...who do you see firing semen shots?

    Now if Schilling had compared Christians to Nazis and been suspended for it, you'd be outraged.
    Lol no, but there'd be plenty of cuckservative outrage from the evangelicals tho

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    But the biggest difference twixt the the two is mostly how politically correct we've become where someone can't say that a fanatic group murdering and destroying on a conquest for power, control, and domination of thought, mind, body, soul, isn't similar to past fanatic groups who murdered and destroyed in conquest for power, control, and domination of thought, mind, body, and soul.
    I'm not sure he couldn't say that. If he or anyone tweeted "Muslim Extremists are like the Nazis" the backlash would probably be minimal because the message is clear and targeted.

    What his message implies, like a lot of anti-Muslim rhetoric that the right brushes off as "non-PC," is that Islam leads to terrorism and Nazi-like behavior. What should we take from the message that a dangerous amount of Muslims are extremists? That we should be su ious of Muslims? That we should eradicate the world of Muslims to prevent the extremists from taking over? Would we have been justified in 1940 to treat German Americans like because of the Nazis?

    Yes there are instances where the PC police overstep. I do think we need to openly warn, particularly in the Middle East, that extremists groups will hijack religion (and in their case, Islam specifically) for evil. I just don't think it's that difficult to stay on message that Muslim Extremists <> Muslims.

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    I'm not sure he couldn't say that. If he or anyone tweeted "Muslim Extremists are like the Nazis" the backlash would probably be minimal because the message is clear and targeted.

    What his message implies, like a lot of anti-Muslim rhetoric that the right brushes off as "non-PC," is that Islam leads to terrorism and Nazi-like behavior. What should we take from the message that a dangerous amount of Muslims are extremists? That we should be su ious of Muslims? That we should eradicate the world of Muslims to prevent the extremists from taking over? Would we have been justified in 1940 to treat German Americans like because of the Nazis?

    Yes there are instances where the PC police overstep. I do think we need to openly warn, particularly in the Middle East, that extremists groups will hijack religion (and in their case, Islam specifically) for evil. I just don't think it's that difficult to stay on message that Muslim Extremists <> Muslims.
    Yeah, i think that's pretty much it.

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    I'm not sure he couldn't say that. If he or anyone tweeted "Muslim Extremists are like the Nazis" the backlash would probably be minimal because the message is clear and targeted.

    What his message implies, like a lot of anti-Muslim rhetoric that the right brushes off as "non-PC," is that Islam leads to terrorism and Nazi-like behavior. What should we take from the message that a dangerous amount of Muslims are extremists? That we should be su ious of Muslims? That we should eradicate the world of Muslims to prevent the extremists from taking over? Would we have been justified in 1940 to treat German Americans like because of the Nazis?

    Yes there are instances where the PC police overstep. I do think we need to openly warn, particularly in the Middle East, that extremists groups will hijack religion (and in their case, Islam specifically) for evil. I just don't think it's that difficult to stay on message that Muslim Extremists <> Muslims.
    I didn't read it as an inference of Islam leading to extremism and terrorism. I read it as a direct comparison to those who defend the majority of Muslims who are peaceful by saying only a small percentage is violent through a historical example of how a few extremists can turn the world upside down. Again, I don't know what the numbers are, so that's why the comparison is foolish.

    But I disagree about your premise. People actively look to be offended. If it's not some college student Twitter hero, it's a too-sensitive Muslim, or a too-sensitive offspring of a holocaust survivor or victim who thinks it somehow makes light of their family trauma.

    One day we'll get to the point where everyone is just different and their actions misunderstood.

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    I read it as a direct comparison to those who defend the majority of Muslims who are peaceful by saying only a small percentage is violent through a historical example of how a few extremists can turn the world upside down.
    What's wrong with defending those Muslims? What do you suggest we do about peaceful Muslims?

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    There's nothing wrong.

    Again, you're proving my exact point.

    We now look for ways to miss the larger point and twist the detail.

    The comparison wasn't that Islam is a terrorist gateway, but that the defense of the peaceful majority can't shield the terrorist few from critique, or even retribution.

    I didn't read anything nefarious. I read a comparison that stated it only takes a few zealots with weapons to turn the world upside down.

    There's nothing inaccurate about that. Nothing wrong with that comparison.

    It has nothing to do with the innocents. Just as all Germans weren't Nazis, not all Muslims are terrorists, in fact very few were/are, but this doesn't lessen the impact of the few.

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    There's nothing wrong.

    It has nothing to do with the innocents. Just as all Germans weren't Nazis, not all Muslims are terrorists, in fact very few were/are, but this doesn't lessen the impact of the few.
    Well when he says "only 7% of Germans were Nazis, how'd that go?", how does he specifically mean it went?

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    Well when he says "only 7% of Germans were Nazis, how'd that go?", what exactly is he saying?
    Right. The possible connotations make this meme extra stupid for a media figure to post.

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    Well when he says "only 7% of Germans were Nazis, how'd that go?", how does he specifically mean it went?
    I read it literally, that if his numbers are even close to true, it doesn't take many, so we can't just ignore the few because they aren't the majority.

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    I read it literally, that if his numbers are even close to true, it doesn't take many, so we can't just ignore the few because they aren't the majority.
    It's not a very clear analogy, because even if there weren't that many official Nazi's, pretty much the whole country mobilized to their cause. If you are saying the whole of Islam is going to work for the extremist cause, then they are extremists too.

    It also makes the meme pretty inflammatory and justifies the suspension.

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    I don't think his tweet was that inflammatory. He probably should be careful what he tweets since he works for a sports network, but all in all, not as bad as people think.

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    I don't think his tweet was that inflammatory. He probably should be careful what he tweets since he works for a sports network, but all in all, not as bad as people think.
    It's pretty bad.

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    Its not like he was calling out regular Muslims. Just the extremists which is a very large number in general even if its less than 10% of the population.

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    I'm not sure Schilling treads deep enough to get the nuance.

    Contrary to board Nazi propagandist, I do know the regional history enough to get what you're saying. Again, foolish thing to say. Fool doing foolish things.

    But the foundation of comparison is apt for the extremists. This shouldn't be lost in the overall idiocy.

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    Its not like he was calling out regular Muslims. Just the extremists which is a very large number in general even if its less than 10% of the population.
    Actually, he kind of was, since so many non-Nazis went along with their plans. That is an easy possible interpretation which makes it a stupid meme to post.

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    Actually, he kind of was, since so many non-Nazis went along with their plans.
    Sounds similar, so then why the inconsistency in the way you all feel about the two groups?

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    Sounds similar, so then why the inconsistency in the way you all feel about the two groups?
    If moderate Muslims start helping the extremists, they are no longer moderates.

    Pretty simple. Is there something about it you don't understand?

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    They too should be suspended from ESPN

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    Actually, he kind of was, since so many non-Nazis went along with their plans. That is an easy possible interpretation which makes it a stupid meme to post.
    People aren't born Muslim extremists.

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    They too should be suspended from ESPN

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    People aren't born Muslim extremists.
    People aren't born Nazis or Nazi sympathizers either. What's your point?

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    But the foundation of comparison is apt for the extremists. This shouldn't be lost in the overall idiocy.
    There's a slippery slope implication in that meme. Schilling realized it too late.

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    People aren't born Muslim extremists.
    Islam is a gateway drug into extremism amirite?

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    If moderate Muslims start helping the extremists, they are no longer moderates.

    Pretty simple. Is there something about it you don't understand?
    But that's what happens. They become radical overtime and join the other radicals. ISIS is basically a country of radicals formed from previous "moderates".

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