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    The male is only fully responsibly when it's a case of rape. Other then that, in consensual sex, it's equal responsibility. As I said, sounds like better choices should have been made before hand, you always run the risk of pregnancy.
    It is equal. It's just funny since earlier you specifically said "women should make better decisions" and excluded men

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    Any human with mental disorders are not considered to be human in your book.
    You Lie

    Any human whose brain is incapable of self-sustaining, autonomous life is sub-human. Meer "mental disorders", emotional problems are excluded from my definiton. Stephen Hawking's motor nervous system is shot, but his brain functions normally.

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    Nope not ok with it. But I would understand why more people would be ok with it.
    If you're ok with people being ok with it, then by default you're ok with it. You're just wanting to walk the fence.

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    same, with no normally function HUMAN BRAIN, a person is not fully human.

    Of course, ethics, morals, guilt, emotions cloud that brutally Darwinian assessment for most people, but facts is facts.

    Humans didn't evolve over 100Ks years by dragging along tribal members who couldn't hold their own, who put the tribe at risk.
    The very reason we should scrape Boutons from the Spurstalk womb...

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    This stuff needs to be seen for its wickedness. Surgeries save lives, abortions kill.
    Abortions are a legal medical procedure.

    You think they're "sick" because you are more comfortable with the government having authority over what's happening in a woman's body for 40 weeks than you are with that woman having that authority. I think THAT'S sick, and so does the Supreme Court.

    Doctors discuss all sorts of gross procedures in ways that are uncomfortable with non-doctors. They even train on dead bodies! EWWWW!

    There are an infinite number of ways you can twist normal medical practice to appeal to people's discomfort reflex, but ultimately you're not "exposing" anything.
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    and the hidden aspect is the UNDUE BURDEN placed only on poor (black, brown) women.

    all women (esp those anti-abortion Christians) above them can afford to have as many abortions as they want.

    so racism, white supremacy, war on the non-white poor "breeders" are the hidden objectives of the anti-abortion mob, masquerading behind the sanc y of life

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    Abortions are a legal medical procedure.

    You think they're "sick" because you are more comfortable with the government having authority over what's happening in a woman's body for 40 weeks than you are with that woman having that authority. I think THAT'S sick, and so does the Supreme Court.

    Doctors discuss all sorts of gross procedures in ways that are uncomfortable with non-doctors. They even train on dead bodies! EWWWW!

    There are an infinite number of ways you can twist normal medical practice to appeal to people's discomfort reflex, but ultimately you're not "exposing" anything.
    No I think its sick that you think a separate being with unique DNA is somehow part of a woman's body.

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    If you're ok with people being ok with it, then by default you're ok with it. You're just wanting to walk the fence.

    I'm not ok with people being ok with it. I just think its the lesser of two evils even though I still find it wrong.

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    It is equal. It's just funny since earlier you specifically said "women should make better decisions" and excluded men
    Yes because I obviously meant to exclude men in that sentence . Of course they are responsible as well.

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    8th or 9th video. Evidence of alleged born alive abortions.


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    No I think its sick that you think a separate being with unique DNA is somehow part of a woman's body.
    You're putting words in my mouth. It's a separate being but it depends on (and dramatically affects) the woman's body, and she should have authority on what is happening inside of her body.

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    8th or 9th video. Evidence of alleged born alive abortions.

    This is quite common in late term abortions. To avoid them being "born alive" they kill the baby before it completely passes out of the birth canal.

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    oh, abortions are an ugly process? didnt know that. thought it was all rainbows and butterflies

    and at that source and the wording

    - doesnt use the word fetus once
    - jams scissors into the baby's skull
    - child's brains are sucked out
    - dead baby is then removed

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    oh, abortions are an ugly process? didnt know that. thought it was all rainbows and butterflies

    and at that source and the wording

    - doesnt use the word fetus once
    - jams scissors into the baby's skull
    - child's brains are sucked out
    - dead baby is then removed
    Fetus? Seriously? Just be intellectually honest and call it what it is. Killing a baby. They use this procedure to keep the BABY from technically being BORN ALIVE.

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    pro-birth fight to get the baby born, then y'all cut child support, school lunches, refuse to raise the minimum wage (a tremendous help to poor mothers), refuse to subsidize birth control, etc, etc.

    all y'all are hypocritical sob's pro-birth, but absolutely not pro-child or pro-life

    and of course, richer women can still afford to get their abortions anywhere

    war on poor vaginas
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    Botons stupidly over simplistic stereotypical caricatures of positions on complicated issues are disgusting.

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    Botons stupidly over simplistic stereotypical caricatures of positions on complicated issues are disgusting.
    simpler is always better, and there ain't nothing simpler than all y'all Bible humping, anti-science, racist, misogynist offs.

    btw, say why my #616 msg is wrong, or "too simple" for ya.

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    Botons stupidly over simplistic stereotypical caricatures of positions on complicated issues are disgusting.
    as opposed to that caricature you posted?

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    Fetus? Seriously? Just be intellectually honest and call it what it is. Killing a baby. They use this procedure to keep the BABY from technically being BORN ALIVE.
    do you know what a fetus is?

    do you know what a baby is?

    i dont think you do

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    do you know what a fetus is?

    do you know what a baby is?

    i dont think you do
    Dumbass. Do you know what a late term partial birth abortion is? it is used to abort potential VIABLE babies.

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    Dumbass. Do you know what a late term partial birth abortion is? it is used to abort potential VIABLE babies.
    those aren't babies. here let me help so you can stop repeating your mistakes




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    simpler is always better, and there ain't nothing simpler than all y'all Bible humping, anti-science, racist, misogynist offs.

    btw, say why my #616 msg is wrong, or "too simple" for ya.
    And Boo , I am on record several times in this thread saying I am pro-choice.

    I'm just saying call it what it is. Killing babies before they are born.

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    And Boo , I am on record several times in this thread saying I am pro-choice.

    I'm just saying call it what it is. Killing babies before they are born.
    there is no such things as that. babies are specifically defined as a young child AFTER it is born.

    talking about "babies before they are born" is like talking about "paintings before they were painted"

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    those aren't babies. here let me help so you can stop repeating your mistakes



    In a partial birth abortion the mother is in labor, the baby slides ALMOST all the way out the birth canal and then the head is held in the birth canal...then they stab it in the head before it is completely out to kill it.

    I don't need a dictionary to tell me that was a baby and your argument is ing stupid.

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