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Don't worry we can make a list of K....horrendous takes.
"Durant isn't Thunder leader" "Kawhi's a role player"...we're used to read his stupid posts.
So is your mom
Don't worry we can make a list of K....horrendous takes.
"Durant isn't Thunder leader" "Kawhi's a role player"...we're used to read his stupid posts.
it's my nature.
"He was 23rd in Offensive RPM last year, and 6th in Defensive RPM. If you weight the metrics equally then he was the 5th best player last year"
Of couse...role players in the league have these horrible advanced stats.
thats the spirit! advanced stats is the best case for him.
I don't count the 2014 miami series as a big leonard win. Diaw, mills, gino, everybody was on fire. What was hardly conclusive. It was pretty good but he did not follow up nor did he lead the whole playoffs. Duncan was the playoffs MVP, Diaw was second. Splitter and kawhi are neck and neck.
See for me the issue is, is kawhi a systems player? His defense would translate to any other team but on a lesser team would he gas out on the defensive end? are his great stats a product of having a great defensive two guard next to him? Can he play a full season?
Really this is a debate about the threshold of s om. I think everyone in the nba world has Kawhi penciled in a star. But exactly what was the tipping point. I mean, i admitted all my Kawhi criticism is mainly trolling but i still want to find out why poeple think he's jordan or feel so emotional about having to argue about kawhi's role.
But if Kawhi is a star mainly for defense, then were guys like rodman, the matrix, and tyson chandler stars for their impact?
Who said he's a star only because his defense? And obviously I wouldn't call system-player a guy who scored 45% of his points on isos plays.
You are not trolling, just say that to hide your bad takes.i admitted all my Kawhi criticism is mainly trolling
Lol.....
Kawhi is a superstar in the making, but not quite there yet as a complete package. He should be an all star this year, making him at the same level of LMAlpha currently. You can call him a super elite role player (who is ranked top 10 NBA this year by media), it's all in semantic.
Yes, KL is a role player. Thing is, he can play a LOT of roles. That's why he's so valuable.
How would this discussion be going if it was Kawhi Leonard of the Los Angeles Lakers? I believe he would be the greatest thing to come along since Cubby. He would be called the next great player of the NBA. Kobe is a role player now. He is better at sitting behind the bench and whining.
How hard is it to give credit where it is due? I know if someone does something good and he is not a Faker, then you make up SH-!T about him.
No he is not!!! He's a role player that thrives in the Spurs system. Remove him from that system and he's toast.
If it wasn't for Tony we wouldn't have Boris and if not for Boris, we wouldn't have, 5
Fkin unappreciative wankers
Kawhi isn't a role player because there's simply no role for him to play. He doesn't draw the defense out of the paint, solely. He doesn't attack the rim, solely. He doesn't spot up in the corner, solely. He doesn't hide on offense and beast on defense, solely. He doesn't fill in for anyone, solely. He doesn't do any of that. He's been a wanderer, and the other team hasn't known what his role is either. He took what he wanted when he was told he could, and it worked because he was an unknown. Now he's not an unknown, so he's going to draw the best defenders, which role players typically don't do. He's going to guard the best player on the other team, which role players typically don't couple with drawing a double team on offense.
He's not a role player. Tim Duncan is more of a role player these days than is Kawhi Leonard, and Tim has said so himself.
OP is a peter-puffer.
What a novel and exciting topic.
...Not.
2012 the refs screwed us, and in 2013 manu screwed us.
I been saying it all along Kawhi is a superb 2nd banana. Saying he's anything more or anything less is equally stupid
Tony Parker fans in a nuts .
It's not like tony parker shot 25% fg the last 2 games trying to steal fmvp from green/tim. Heroballin'Tony Parker fans in a nuts .
Yup, he's a role player
Lebron kryptonite...... How soon we forget
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