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when faced with facts that don't work in their favor, white supremacists tend to use the deflect method as we see young darren doing here
Any murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency, training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.
I agree that false narratives are dangerous.
Example: "Hands up! Don't shoot!"
when faced with facts that don't work in their favor, white supremacists tend to use the deflect method as we see young darren doing here
Hands up, don't shoot was a lie from the start. I can't believe BLM still invokes the name of thuglet, Mike Brown.when faced with facts that don't work in their favor, white supremacists tend to use the deflect method as we see young darren doing here
there is a thread on mike brown, several of them. take your deflections there. if you want to talk about the lie that is the war on cops, then lets talk about that.
long-form crime stats article in FivrThirtyEight:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-s-crime-wave/
St Louis and Baltimore up significantly.
All the rightwingnuts have is LIES
Once again: There is no ‘war on cops.’ And those who claim otherwise are playing a dangerous game.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...angerous-game/
Despite a new stream of lies from the liberal media, the War on Cops continues. Cleveland Police on high alert over a credible threat to ambush them on the street:
http://fox8.com/2015/09/10/police-un...rt-for-ambush/
Earlier this month, Cleveland police officers were shot at. Luckily, they all managed to escape unhurt:
http://fox8.com/2015/09/02/i-team-sh...ers-overnight/
#PoliceLivesMatter
They do have 25 unarmed blacks to chose from this year. One of them was shot in the face a point blank range and another shot 8 times in the back. Would those be better choices for you?
Two data points out of thousands. Why pick them out? Are they representative of the aggregate?
2013 and 2015 are the safest years for cops since 1887 according to AEI. Do you disagree? why or why not?
If you think crime stats from two cities stand for the entire US, you're an idiot.
Did I say that?
Just a coincidence that two cities where a a prominent BLM martyr was killed, the crime rate has risen significantly.
But what about James Blake?
do you have a point, or just clearing your throat?
Radley Balko with the goods:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...angerous-game/So when police advocates say that 2014 saw an 80+ percent increase in homicides of cops over 2013, remember a few things: First, 2013 wasn’t just an all-time low, it was an all-time low by a significant margin. Second, the 2013 figure was so low that even a small increase will look large when expressed as a percentage. Third, the figure for the following year, 2014, (51 officers killed) was essentially consistent with the average for the previous five years (50 killed), and still lower than any five-year average going back to 1960. (See this graph, also from Wang.) Fourth, again, 2015 is on pace (35 killings) to be lower than any year but 2013. Another common response from police organizations and their advocates is that the reduction in fatalities is due to better medical care and improvements in protective gear such as bulletproof vests. Both things are undoubtedly true. But assaults on police officers are in decline as well. That is, not only are fewer people killing police officers, fewer people are trying to harm them. These graphs from Stoughton show the raw numbers of assaults on police:
As you can see, at best you could argue that assaults on police with firearms are about even with where they’ve been for most of the last decade, save for a dip in 2009 and 2010. But these too are raw figures. When we look at the rate of assault on cops, from either the perspective of total cops or total population, the downward trend once again becomes more pronounced. From Daniel Bier, here are two graphs looking at the assault rates on police officers.
sameAny murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency, training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.
But there’s also a much more pernicious effect of exaggerating the threats faced by law enforcement. When cops are constantly told that they’re under constant fire, or that every interaction with a citizen could be their last, or that they’re fortunate each time they come home from the job in one piece, it’s absolute poison for police-community relations. That kind of reminder on a regular basis would put anyone on edge. We’re putting police officers in a perpetually combative mindset that psychologically isolates them from the communities they serve. Incessantly telling cops that they’re under fire can condition them to see the people with whom they interact not as citizens with rights, but as potential threats. That not only means more animosity, anger and confrontation, it can also be a barrier to building relationships with people in the community — the sorts of relationships that help police officers solve crimes and keep communities safe.
sameOne last point: I’ve seen some police officials and their advocates respond to these statistics by pointing out that even if assaults and killings of cops are down, anti-police rhetoric is increasing. Therefore, they say, they’re justified in proclaiming that there’s a war on the police. This is nonsense. Police agencies are government agencies. They’re government agencies in whom we entrust the power to detain, arrest, and kill. Yes, it’s true that some people are demanding more of those agencies. It’s true that personal technology is enabling people to create an independent video narrative of their interactions with police. It’s true that those videos have sometimes revealed police misconduct and brutality, and that police officers, like all people, sometimes mis-remember, misstate, and outright lie when recounting contentious, traumatic, high-stakes incidents. And it’s true that because of all of this, the public as a whole today finds police officers as a whole less trustworthy than in the past. It’s also true that some activists, pundits, and politicians are demanding more accountability, transparency, and training for police.
None of these things are indicative of a “war.” On the contrary, all of this new skepticism, criticism, forced transparency, and mistrust of the police is — again — coming even as violence against police officers is reaching historic lows. This is how a democracy is supposed to work. It’s something worth celebrating.
Instead, police groups and their advocates are claiming that the mere act of criticizing a government en y is akin to declaring war on it, and that therefore, police critics are culpable every time a police officer is murdered. (And given the way they ignore and abuse statistics, those critics are also apparently culpable for a lot of murders that never happened.) They’re essentially saying that exercising cons utional rights and participating in democracy are in and of themselves acts of violence. And in many cases, this is coming from the very people that the government empowers to use actual violence.
That is something worth worrying about.
Oh gee, an actual Libertarian with actual data and actual analysis.
> "Actual libertarian"
> Got his start at Karl Rove's neocon Leadership Ins ute, organizing Rove's seminars for him
> Voted for Bob Dole (neocon), Dubya (neocon), and Kerry (liberal)
This guy has hopped on the liberal anti-cop narrative in order to get mainstream attention while posing as a libertarian in order to keep up his right-wing street cred. The funniest thing of all is that the anti-cop libs on here would loathe his defense of the Stand Your Ground laws.
Oh please. Keep reaching. Balko is the most prominent libertarian in this country. He has been pro-justice for as long as I've read him, which goes back a long way. I don't agree with him on many/most of his views, but he is consistent and the last thing he does is "hop" on bandwagons (hilarious coming from you, the site's biggest bandwagoner). He also saved an innocent man's life from death row.
its weird that you like to suppress one false narrative while propping up anotherAny murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency, training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.
Ron Paul would like a word.
if there were ever a faux-libertarian, Ron and his son are at the top of the list
War on Cops? Big LIE
War on Christmas? Big LIE
War on Christians? Big LIE
Black Lives Matter is criminalized as extremist, provoking the War on Cops? Big LIE
Benghazi? Big LIE
Obamacare is a job killer? Big LIE
Social Security is broke? Big LIE
AGW is a farce? Big LIE
etc, etc, etc. Fox/VWRC/Repugs/ST rightwingnuts have got nothing but lies.
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