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Brahahahaha!!! Good one igotno .
And that teacher knew what it was and was cool. The next class' teacher didn't know and was scared. It's easy to look at a photo and pick it apart. It's another thing to have that come out right in front of you. Teachers aren't trained to know everything you need to make a bomb, so it's not like a police officer mistaking a wallet for a gun and killing someone.
If you didn't have the 'that's who I thought it was' thing, then I would be pretty sympathetic to the school. They definitely showed their prejudice and will get their asses handed to him in court. But we won't and shouldn't evolve to a point where we disregard our instincts of danger, because unfortunate things do happen often enough.
Good article about how this is a publicity stunt and nothing more:
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/a-litt...the-president/
Well no, that article is stupid as .
So it was a hoax bomb? Just sad and pathetic. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and other social media are garbage.
Don't buy that story. The father would have to be a clarvoiant to know the teacher, principal, policemen and rest would be stupid enough to believe it was a hoax bomb and not either a clock or a real bomb.
The school and police ed up regardless of who made that clock and why. They were owned and deserve the ridicule of the world.
Anybody that would believe that article cripplenation posted would have to be at least as stupid as the teachers or police involved
you addressed the quote to me you got head.
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Chump said they were all idiot's for not trusting it was a clock...
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Yeah. There's no list which is besides the point any way.
You're just really stupid I guess.
Well, yeah, it's obvious upon inspection. But which rando is going to scrutinize it enough? The at ude you quoted from Chump is the same at ude people in horror movies have. Now, the proper course of action should have been to evacuate the wing if you thought it was a bomb, so I don't know what happened there.
But here's what CNN had in their latest article:
I don't know what Ahmed was thinking, but it wasn't the right course of action of deescalate matters. On one hand, the police should have given him his rights if they were going to arrest him. On the other hand, the kid didn't seem to explain himself. So yeah, the police were definitely stupid for arresting him, but the kid doesn't seem too different from people in those police killings. Perhaps he was thinking lawsuit the whole time or perhaps his father's antics had conditioned him to politicize things.Ahmed has said he brought the device to school to impress his teachers, but one became concerned about the device and reported him to the principal.Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said authorities were able to determine quickly that it wasn't a bomb, but they investigated Ahmed to determine whether he brought the device to school with the intention of creating alarm. It is against Texas law to use or possess a fake bomb with the intent to make someone believe that it is an explosive.
Ahmed told investigators it was a clock, but he was led away in handcuffs after he wouldn't say much more on the matter, Boyd said. Further investigation revealed details -- such as his making the clock to impress teachers -- that led police to decide not to pursue charges, Boyd said.
The police should be embarrassed over this, but that kid has gotten too much support as well. People are stupid. The Twitter age was supposed to make us more informed. But instead, it just lets us swallow the same bull as before. It's just we get it while it's still warm.
The thing that bothers me is that Barney Fife threw him behind bars and charged him with false crimes for a freaking STEM project. This is straight out of Idiocracy.
Totally didn't do that, so you don't have to worry about being bothered.
I know it wasn't actually Barney Fife who arrested him for his STEM project. That's just something people when referring to an incompetent, dimwitted police officer.
If they didn't evacuate the school, they all knew it wasn't a bomb.
It was just a clock.
I know, I mean the throwing him behind bars and charging him business. They took him to juvie, interrogated them, realized it was no big deal and let him go. No charges, no police records. Kid probably doesn't even leave the building had he explained and had they gotten the first teacher to discuss what happened. But he claimed up, which was his right, but it helped exacerbate the situation.
To be clear, they arrested him, carted him out of school in front of his classmates in handcuffs, took him to jail, processed him, detained him, didn't immediately notify his parents of his arrest and interrogated him without his parents or his lawyer present. I think what's most disturbing is the allegation that they denied his multiple requests to speak to his parents.
I don't blame the child for clamming up. The kid comes to school with a STEM project that he's proud of the next thing he knows he's surrounded by four police officers accusing him of being a bomb-maker and refusing his right to speak with his legal guardians—meanwhile he's continually telling them it's just a clock. If anything, they should have contacted his parents sooner and allowed them to be present during the interrogation instead of skirting the kid's rights. They probably could have come to their inevitable conclusions that it's not a bomb and that it was not designed to scare anybody much sooner, and saved themselves from the eventual civil rights lawsuit.
Taking him to juvenile detention and not allowing him to contact his legal guardian when he asked to do so is a violation of the Texas Family Code. The kid's parents will sue and the Texas taxpayer will pay enough to see this kid through college and more.
is that all it was? his dad had nothing to do with it?
The kid also assembled a Bluetooth speaker and gifted it to his friend, and made radios at home. Next you'll claim that this was a grand master plan several years in the making by his father.
It was just a clock.
He didn't go the jail. I'm not even sure he was "processed". Anyway, you won't find me saying he was treated fairly at all. As far as I know, the police violated pretty ingrained legal rights, and they'll pay for that.
He should have just said nothing at all if he wasn't going to actually explain what happened, which is the word so far. I don't blame him for going all legal, but repeatedly saying "It's a clock" is not helpful. Saying, "It's a clock I made for this one class. Ask that teacher and they'll vouch for me," is helpful. The kid doesn't have to do the police's job for them, I understand. But to act like the police should have let him go simply because he repeated "It's a clock," makes no sense. Again, though, since I feel like this is going to get missed, the police violated this kid's rights, and they are going to end up poorer and embarrassed for their shoddy work.I don't blame the child for clamming up. The kid comes to school with a STEM project that he's proud of the next thing he knows he's surrounded by four police officers accusing him of being a bomb-maker and refusing his right to speak with his legal guardians—meanwhile he's continually telling them it's just a clock. If anything, they should have contacted his parents sooner and allowed them to be present during the interrogation instead of skirting the kid's rights. They probably could have come to their inevitable conclusions that it's not a bomb and that it was not designed to scare anybody much sooner, and saved themselves from the eventual civil rights lawsuit.
I agree.
Anyway, we're talking about different things here. The kid was in the legal right by clamming up, and the police were in the wrong. But that doesn't make the kid smart. As I said, it's like with the police shootings that have happened recently. Parents need to teach their kids to be cooperative and non-confrontational with police officers. If one of those police officers had hauled off and shot the kid between the eyes in a fit of insanity, that department would have been up creek, it would be a year's worth of coverage, tons of protests and all that. But the kid would be dead, and no amount of hashtags would bring him back. The kid's father has probably made him very used to political controversy, but the time to be a hero is not during the arrest; it's afterwards.
If you're surrounded by police officers and can defuse the situation with a quick explanation, you do so. You don't go around saying, "It's a clock" over and over again like the police are the biggest idiots on the planet -- even when they are -- and get yourself hauled off to juvie. That's just stupid.
Media narrative getting destroyed once again, this time by an actual engineer:
So there you have it folks, Ahmed Mohamad did not invent, nor build a clock. He took apart an existing clock, and transplanted the guts into a pencil box, and claimed it was his own creation. It all seems really fishy to me.I refer back again to this YouTube video interview with Ahmed. He explains that he closed up the box with a piece of cord because he didn’t want it to look su ious. I’m curious, why would "looking su ious" have even crossed his mind before this whole event unfolded, if he was truly showing off a hobby project, something so innocuous as an alarm clock.http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/...and-ourselves/If we stop and think – was it really such a ridiculous reaction from the teacher and the police in the first place? How many school shootings and incidents of violence have we had, where we hear afterwards "this could have been prevented, if only we paid more attention to the signs!" Teachers are taught to be su ious and vigilant. Ahmed wasn’t accused of making a bomb – he was accused of making a look-alike, a hoax. And be honest with yourself, a big red digital display with a bunch of loose wires in a brief-case looking box is awful like a Hollywood-style representation of a bomb. Everyone jumped to play the race and religion cards and try and paint the teachers and police as idiots and bigots, but in my mind, they were probably acting responsibly and erring on the side of caution to protect the rest of their students, just in case. "This wouldn’t have happened if Ahmed were white," they say. We’re supposed to be sensitive to school violence, but apparently religious and racial sensitivity trumps that. At least we have another clue about how the sensitivity and moral outrage pecking order lies.
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