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    I can make a reasonable guess as to how likely your list of priorities will happen.

    I dont get the need of some fans for that ...I wont lie, of course I Want him to go out on a good note ...but tbh it's low on my list of priorities for the year.

    1. Is to quiet the noise around the Buss kids and their bickering
    - Unlikely, these are rich kids born with silver spoons in their mouths. They are spoiled, have enormous egos, and not a lot of brains.

    2. Determine if Scott is the right guy to develop the young guys
    You already know the answer, and it's no.

    3. Properly evaluating Randle
    - No matter how you evaluate a turd, it's a turd.

    4. Seeing if D'Russ is for real ...
    Jury's still out, but it ain't looking good.

    5. Getting rid of Swaggy ...
    Who will take him? He is all LA though, he personifies the lifestyle the Buss kids were selling to FAs. You can't blame him, he merely acted on what he was promised.

    6. Continue to develop Clarkson
    You are talking about a borderline starter in this league, and Laker fans are treating him as some kind of saviour. Face it, he put up numbers because the Lakers were bad, and somebody had to put up numbers.

    7. Finding out if Nace Jr., Upshaw etc are worth a damn ...
    Unlikely, you guys can't even draft properly with high picks, how are you supposed to get diamonds in the rough? You are talking about players who nobody else wanted. They may be able to do a few things very very well, but these are role players that require a system, and the Lakers have no direction, let alone a system.

    8. Seeing what Hibbert has left
    You should pray for miracles.

    All of those things are more important than Kobe's last "ride". He has his money, 5 rings, etc. He doesnt need a great last year and our team shouldnt sacrifice anyone's development to give him "a proper sendoff". he is arguably the 2nd greatest Laker and we have valued him as such except for a small section of Laker fans (and of course haters) Kobe gets respect. And i feel no need to spend the year kissing his ass. Come the end of the year the Lakers FO and fans SHOULD offer their appreciation but this year should NOT be about him.

    when he is gone we STILL have to build a squad ...
    You are right, Kobe should be last on your list. How Laker fans are revering Kobe is beyond me. This is a guy who cost you multiple championships. He didn't win 5 rings, the Lakers won 5 rings despite him.

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    I can make a reasonable guess as to how likely your list of priorities will happen.

    - Unlikely, these are rich kids born with silver spoons in their mouths. They are spoiled, have enormous egos, and not a lot of brains.

    You already know the answer, and it's no.

    - No matter how you evaluate a turd, it's a turd.

    Jury's still out, but it ain't looking good.

    Who will take him? He is all LA though, he personifies the lifestyle the Buss kids were selling to FAs. You can't blame him, he merely acted on what he was promised.

    You are talking about a borderline starter in this league, and Laker fans are treating him as some kind of saviour. Face it, he put up numbers because the Lakers were bad, and somebody had to put up numbers.

    Unlikely, you guys can't even draft properly with high picks, how are you supposed to get diamonds in the rough? You are talking about players who nobody else wanted. They may be able to do a few things very very well, but these are role players that require a system, and the Lakers have no direction, let alone a system.

    You should pray for miracles.



    You are right, Kobe should be last on your list. How Laker fans are revering Kobe is beyond me. This is a guy who cost you multiple championships. He didn't win 5 rings, the Lakers won 5 rings despite him.
    This last part is bull , but I wont bother because we have been down that road. I think some of your conclusions above are overly pessimistic BUT until the games start your views are just as valid as anyone else ... why dont we agree to bump this post and mine when we have some proof shall we? Otherwise it's just speculation and you are far from objective on the subject matter.

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    This last part is bull , but I wont bother because we have been down that road. I think some of your conclusions above are overly pessimistic BUT until the games start your views are just as valid as anyone else ... why dont we agree to bump this post and mine when we have some proof shall we? Otherwise it's just speculation and you are far from objective on the subject matter.
    Fair. I don't pretend to be able to predict the future, but the Lakers really aren't look that good right now, sort of like the Knicks, and the Knicks have been in the doldrums for a few years now.

    Unless something drastic happens (like signing Durant, Buss kids all die in a plane crash, Clarkson and Russell both turn out to be all-star caliber players, Kobe becomes a team player), the Lakers will become the WC doormat for a few years.

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    Fair. I don't pretend to be able to predict the future, but the Lakers really aren't look that good right now, sort of like the Knicks, and the Knicks have been in the doldrums for a few years now.

    Unless something drastic happens (like signing Durant, Buss kids all die in a plane crash, Clarkson and Russell both turn out to be all-star caliber players, Kobe becomes a team player), the Lakers will become the WC doormat for a few years.
    You must be out your rabid ass mind. We're a lock for the playoffs from here on out.

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    Fair. I don't pretend to be able to predict the future, but the Lakers really aren't look that good right now, sort of like the Knicks, and the Knicks have been in the doldrums for a few years now.

    Unless something drastic happens (like signing Durant, Buss kids all die in a plane crash, Clarkson and Russell both turn out to be all-star caliber players, Kobe becomes a team player), the Lakers will become the WC doormat for a few years.
    Let me ask you one last question ... this the same core team, a team that you said should win 35 to 40 games last year? So what is the more accurate prediction that we could win that many last year in a tough West or that we will be ty like last year even with the additions we have made? why last year when I told you how lucky we would be to win more than 25 games is now the worst team in the West?

    And btw, we are not the Knicks. Outside of both being in big markets we have nothing in common except we both suck right now.
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 09-16-2015 at 02:43 PM.

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    You must be out your rabid ass mind. We're a lock for the playoffs from here on out.
    unintentional humor is always the best

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    unintentional humor is always the best

    You really want this , huh?

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    You really want this , huh?
    nobody in their right might wants ur shrimp paki

    go buy urself a sasuke themed fleshlight

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    You must be out your rabid ass mind. We're a lock for the playoffs from here on out.
    Would you swear by the honour of the nine-tailed dragon that the Lakers will make the playoffs in 15-16?

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    Let me ask you one last question ... this the same core team, a team that you said should win 35 to 40 games last year? So what is the more accurate prediction that we could win that many last year in a tough West or that we will be ty like last year even with the additions we have made? why last year when I told you how lucky we would be to win more than 25 games is now the worst team in the West?

    And btw, we are not the Knicks. Outside of both being in big markets we have nothing in common except we both suck right now.
    It's not the same core, you are crazy man. You lost Ed Davis, Julius Randle seems to be a lot worse than I originally thought, the Kobe virus has clearly spread to Swaggy P, Lin is gone (laugh as much as you want, he did something for you), Scott was way worse as a coach as I originally thought.

    As for the parallel with the Knicks:
    1) Big market teams
    2) Both suck big time
    3) Antiquated system
    4) Melo vs Kobe
    5) No future ( o, draft picks, o?)
    6) Horrible ownership
    7) Milking the cash cow by selling false hope to a loyal but ultimately delusional fanbase

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    It's not the same core, you are crazy man. You lost Ed Davis, Julius Randle seems to be a lot worse than I originally thought, the Kobe virus has clearly spread to Swaggy P, Lin is gone (laugh as much as you want, he did something for you), Scott was way worse as a coach as I originally thought.

    As for the parallel with the Knicks:
    1) Big market teams
    2) Both suck big time
    3) Antiquated system
    4) Melo vs Kobe
    5) No future ( o, draft picks, o?)
    6) Horrible ownership
    7) Milking the cash cow by selling false hope to a loyal but ultimately delusional fanbase
    Huh, how is Randle worse based off what? SL? Seriously? either you overrated him greatly or are much to knee-jerk now. I would take a core of Russell, Clarkson, Randle and upshaw over any prospects the Knicks have. Porzingis will be good in time but what other young assets do the Knicks have ... oh wait I like the Grant kid they drafted too ...

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    Would you swear by the honour of the nine-tailed dragon that the Lakers will make the playoffs in 15-16?
    I have a bet with splits for a 1k hooker that we do.

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    Huh, how is Randle worse based off what? SL? Seriously? either you overrated him greatly or are much to knee-jerk now. I would take a core of Russell, Clarkson, Randle and upshaw over any prospects the Knicks have. Porzingis will be good in time but what other young assets do the Knicks have ... oh wait I like the Grant kid they drafted too ...
    Based on his broken leg.
    Again, clarkson is a borderline starting PG, Russell takes some time, he lacks speed and is an average shooter with an average release

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    I have a bet with splits for a 1k hooker that we do.
    How do you bet that? I am pretty sure s/he wouldn't do it with either of you for $1k

    Also, confirmed that you won't swear by the honour of the nine tailed dragon. I knew there is a point for everyone where they won't be willing to bet due to the preciousness of the item, even for a welching loser like you, and its Naruto for you.

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    You must be out your rabid ass mind. We're a lock for the playoffs from here on out.
    More likely: The Lakers making the Playoffs or you stop sucking your own ?

    C'mon, there is trolling, trying to troll and that fine line of trying to troll and just being a ing moron. You crossed that line years ago...I would like to assume so you could hang out with Kool and Cub, but let's not discount the fact that you are a ing moron too. Go ahead and have the surgery to have your missing rib replaced.

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    More likely: The Lakers making the Playoffs or you stop sucking your own ?

    C'mon, there is trolling, trying to troll and that fine line of trying to troll and just being a ing moron. You crossed that line years ago...I would like to assume so you could hang out with Kool and Cub, but let's not discount the fact that you are a ing moron too. Go ahead and have the surgery to have your missing rib replaced.
    We have a better chance of making the playoffs than you have at winning a le.

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    No, no you don't. You have a better chance of succeeding in the real world. And that likelihood is slim and none and slim killed itself a lonnnnggggg time before you ran, hid and changed your name, Naruto.


    Carry on.

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    We have a better chance of making the playoffs than you have at winning a le.
    . Just like no one was beating the Heat in 2014 right?

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    We have a better chance of making the playoffs than you have at winning a le.


    This one post just shows how the mighty have fallen....

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    This one post just shows how the mighty have fallen....
    Even the mighty have to rebuild at some point.

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    Even the mighty have to rebuild at some point.
    I guess you won't be taking that ELE bet...

    Better record Spurs or Lakers?

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    Even the mighty have to rebuild at some point.
    Not the Spurs

    And I thought we don't rebuild we reload was the purple-n-piss mantra? Oh, I forgot. Kirby can't play past age 33 other than lead PnP to 3 straight lotteries.

    Ha ha.

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    Not the Spurs

    And I thought we don't rebuild we reload was the purple-n-piss mantra? Oh, I forgot. Kirby can't play past age 33 other than lead PnP to 3 straight lotteries.

    Ha ha.
    Yes you will ... post Duncan, yall aint winning
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    He's not going to win it unless its media decided like MCW was. He's probably going to try and put up stats that will only hurt his team because he's not moving the ball. Most of all, he's a rookie in the western conference. Russell is will get abused and have his confidence bashed in by veterans like Westbrook Lillard Curry Paul Conley Wall etc.

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    I can make a reasonable guess as to how likely your list of priorities will happen.

    - Unlikely, these are rich kids born with silver spoons in their mouths. They are spoiled, have enormous egos, and not a lot of brains.

    You already know the answer, and it's no.

    - No matter how you evaluate a turd, it's a turd.

    Jury's still out, but it ain't looking good.

    Who will take him? He is all LA though, he personifies the lifestyle the Buss kids were selling to FAs. You can't blame him, he merely acted on what he was promised.

    You are talking about a borderline starter in this league, and Laker fans are treating him as some kind of saviour. Face it, he put up numbers because the Lakers were bad, and somebody had to put up numbers.

    Unlikely, you guys can't even draft properly with high picks, how are you supposed to get diamonds in the rough? You are talking about players who nobody else wanted. They may be able to do a few things very very well, but these are role players that require a system, and the Lakers have no direction, let alone a system.

    You should pray for miracles.



    You are right, Kobe should be last on your list. How Laker fans are revering Kobe is beyond me. This is a guy who cost you multiple championships. He didn't win 5 rings, the Lakers won 5 rings despite him.
    this is such an annoying post man, i'm not a lakers fan or anything but try to have some damn objectivity. The odds russell, clarkson, and randle all suck is pretty low realistically. And no the lakers didn't win 5 rings despite Kobe that's just stupid.

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