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Spurs filed tender deal to DeShaun Thomas, source said. Per IG, he is in San Antonio.
Sophmore/JR year at OSU. Went from an Evan Turner type scorer, using his body to get points, to a half-ass three point shooter. He just wanted to shoot the ball stopped doing the hustle things.
Spurs filed tender deal to DeShaun Thomas, source said. Per IG, he is in San Antonio.
Again, mad disappointed that it's just the tender. Would have gone after a multi-year deal. But I'm glad they didn't foolishly decide not to tender him. He's worth a look in camp, and unlike Simmons and Jimmer, he's tradeable if he's on the outs for the roster next month.
Does that mean Thomas accepted their qualifying offer?
i dont like him
Ditto - this allows parker to think its okay to be fat and out of shape.
Makes sense to tender him. He can shoot, but not much of passer based on last SL and defense and size are average or below average, but he'd be end of the bench guy anyway. Spurs may have an idea who they want but it's better to take a look at him before releasing him altogether. I think it's unlikely he make the team, but it's not impossible. If his character is not a good fit, he won't make it no matter if he can shoot though.
I think you have an over inflated idea of DTs value around the league, versus, say Simmons. Every team ahead of us in that draft with two picks passed on him twice, and while he was OK, he didn't exactly light Europe on fire. I don't even think the Spurs value him that much. They signed a full roster, plus a few other camp guys, and then at the 11th hour, gave him his tender. To me, that says they don't see him making their 15 man roster in any situation.
bonner replacement at best, with a worse three ball. I do not understand why they signed or even mess with Thomas, when you had another, better, unproven shooter in Jon Diebler. Shooting 41% in Turkey. Same terrible defensive skills, but he can linger around the 3 point line and knock em down.
No. Simmons literally can't be traded until December, whereas Thomas becomes tradeable 30 days after he inks a contract. That's the CBA, not who's the better prospect.
Who would possibly want DT? and there is literally nothing of value for him, is there? Unless SA would ship him with someone else? I see SA keeping Williams over Simmons.
They're likely cutting both of them, since they're the 16th and 17th guys right now. I don't see Thomas having value, but he did show he was a solid Euroleauge player who can score and is more athletic than he was in college, so you never know. You're right they could use his salary as trade ballast, although it's only like $525k. The Spurs could combine Thomas, Williams, Anderson and McCallum for a player making $4.5 Million or so. That's the best they could do, and they wouldn't do that, since they obviously like Anderson and McCallum, and that would add millions to their tax bill.
So what do you see as the 15 man roster this year?
Pretty much all the guys with guaranteed money:
PG: Parker, Mills, McCallum
SG: Green, Ginobili, Fredette
SF: Leonard, Anderson, Simmons
PF: Aldridge, West, Bonner
C: Duncan, Diaw, Marjanovic
But Jimmer, Simmons and Bonner are not set in stone to make the team. The former two guys would probably be claimed if waived, so their guaranteed money isn't that big of a deal. Bonner most likely has a spot, but Thomas has more upside, so if he impresses, it makes sense for Matt to go. He might also be claimed, though it's not as likely in my opinion.
i doubt he'll make the team.
I see Williams and Thomas as 16/17, not Simmons. Williams was just horrible last year, and Thomas' combine numbers in agility and sprints, after months of pre-combine workouts and preparation, were worse than Blair's. He could never guard NBA wings. What you probably thought you saw in terms of athleticism was him guarding Euros. All you have to see in terms of Spurs interest is that they 11th hour tendered Thomas, and literally pulled Simmons off another team's SL bus in another city with a multi-year contract, first year fully guaranteed. That's night and day to me, and speaks to who they think can or will make the 15 man roster.
I see Jimmer and Bonner as more likely mid-season casualties than camp cuts. One or both of them could be let go at the end of their guaranteed money to make room for a trade, a China returnee, or a buyout pickup. There's usually tastier stuff available in Feb/Mar than there is right after camp. See: Boris Diaw, Patty Mills, Aron Baynes.
do you really see SA parting ways with Bonner this season, when it could be multiple last seasons for SA players?
Yes, if the right player(s) were available. I'm not sure why they would only partially guarantee him otherwise.
Bonner to coaching staff confirmed
Thought he meant Williams over Thomas. VERY unlikely they cut Simmons, I agree. I only see him at risk if he has an abysmal camp. But it's still possible, which is not the case for the rotation guys.
I agree. But I am saying that those three spots are the ones Thomas would be the mix to take if he plays well. I'd say that Simmons is a near-lock, Jimmer is a lock to get out of camp unless he plays poorly, and Bonner is a lock unless Thomas plays noticeably better than him (meaning it isn't really up to Matt since we know what he's going to give the team).
I think he only makes the team if Bonner or Jimmer can't shoot. Bonner stated the decline in his shooting % was the chronic elbow injury. He said it was cellphone use, but it might be repe ive use sports related injury. Meaning when Bonner starts to play BB again and practice shooting on a high volume again, it could resurface. I think this is a possibility. Jimmer obviously is on a tryout and now has to eff out both Williams and Thomas. Thomas must know it's an uphill climb, but it's not like he has no chance.
I just don't understand the infatuation with Thomas, when you could probably get a better 3pt shooter.
From me, none. He forced himself into camp and there are two guys there who are not fully guaranteed. It's unlikely he'll beat either, but it's not impossible. Personally, I am not sold on Bonner being useful this season at all. He has always been a very limited player with his slow shot and reluctance to shoot, but he at least had an excellent % on those shots he did take in the RS. This past season he inexplicably shot awful and then said he had a chronic elbow injury. He might be done TBH. There is a chance that injury is from sports related overuse and that it could return. That is why I think he's only a partial guarantee. Jimmer and Williams are also in compe ion.
Chinook might like him. I am neutral, but don't discard at all the possibility he might bump someone. I am not taking Bonner or the other end of bench spot as guaranteed for anyone. It is up for grabs to me.
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