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What are you re ed? Went 5-2 last week in the NFL playing "spots" that favored one teaM over another ATS.
Dude, you haven't a clue how this works do ya?
There is everything you fail to understand about betting.
Still into that turnover gig?
Hey little fella, did you see the Bears played a perfectly clean game with no TURNOVERS and did not score? Keeping things easy for the QB. Turnovers, don't ya know, are THE MOST important thing to know about football, eh shorty?
Idiot...
What are you re ed? Went 5-2 last week in the NFL playing "spots" that favored one teaM over another ATS.
Dude, you haven't a clue how this works do ya?
Stupid, go to any sites that talks football and ask....
What is the most important factor in winning football games?
You will read....PROTECT THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stupid, do your homework ok?
Here ya go ya dummy.
While quite a few coaches mentioned third-down efficiency as a key, and a few talked about explosiveness (#swoon), there was one dominant, recurring theme...Maryland's Randy Edsall
"I think turnover margin is something you can tell what type of a team someone is."Arizona State's Dennis Erickson "The biggest thing with winning and losing is turnover margin. We lost that last year."USC's Lane Kiffin
"When I got the Raiders job, I remember talking to the team about turnover margin."Washington's Steve Sarkisian
"You look at the teams every year that have double-digit turnover margin, they all are bowl teams and winners, conference \
You're dumb as a rock aren't ya?
Last edited by Avante; 09-30-2015 at 05:47 PM.
tbh what ever happened to future Top 5 pick Davis Webb?
whoa
You won for a week wow!
How you doin past 3 years?
Actually the final score determines the outcome.
Part of your problem is your sites don't understand stats or cause and effect.
On on the whole most turnovers occur in the 4th quarter by the team that is ALREADY LOSING.
Do you have any clue how this changes the way in which turnovers should be viewed and their effect?
Hint, what does ALREADY LOSING mean to you?
Stop funking up this thread with old man smell.
make your picks or gtfo
I've only been playing here the last two seasons, won 2100 in 2014 and up 1220 so far in 2015.
Do you understand ATS wagering? Do you get trends and "spots".
Give me a game and I'll show you how it's done.
I don't want you to look up pure re ed about a team 5 years removed against the spread again.
You make we want to vomit with your rehashing of all these Vegas numbs giving out their picks based on ridiculous ATS ancient history. WHytfck do they give their picks out if they are so good? So people like you who don't know and can't do their own homework will gamble. So you keep those ATS sites handy. I'm watching the games. And yes I will read competing teams talk boards once in a while to get a smell if a coach has lost a team. It's a little early for that to be fruitful.
Trends and spots. The Cowboys are 5-2 against the spread when playing on Monday night and wearing away blue... Jesus H Christ. So you don't want to post your last 3 years because you don't have the picks?
***Updated with new information on 12/17/2013 to reflect actual amount wagered on Bears/Packers, courtesy of Spurraiders21***
***Updated with new information again on 12/22/2013 to reflect Avante's week 16 bet***
Since he refuses to do so, lets track all the money plays he's done on Spurstalk this year. Lets ignore all the other claims/story changes/goal post moves no one can prove/disprove, lets just stick to all of the games Avante has picked on this site saying he bet on them. Here's how it's gone:
Weeks 1-7:
He was 22-25 () through 7 weeks picking games without mentioning how much money he bet, and after claiming he was 14-7 overall in the "$$$$" games he realized he needed to start actually showing how much he was betting to prove he's an NFL historian.
Week 8:
At that point he's 2-1 and up $90 overall (claiming he's 16-8). Then he decides to bet on the Seattle MNF and loses (we know he bet on this one because he voluntarily drops his record to 16-9 after this game):
Results for week 8: 2-2 and down $20 ($440 wager, $420 payout)
Results through week 8: 2-2, down $20 overall
Week 9 is when he starts trying to make it confusing to figure out what he bet. Here are the games he claims he played (though he posted an alternative set of games where he did even worse). He didn't specify a dollar amount so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he only bet $110 to win $100 on all 5 games:
Here's the post where he confirms he bet on these and adds a 5th game he bet on:
Then he ups his wager for the MNF GB -11 game:
Results for week 9: 1-4 and down $1,330 ($1540 wager, $210 payout)
Results through week 9: 3-6, down $1,350 overall
Week 10 is when Avante's behavior becomes truly eratic as he starts upping the ante:
Results for week 10: 2-2 and down $100 ($2200 wager, $2100 payout)
Results through week 10: 5-8, down $1,450 overall
Week 11 he starts randomly posting his picks (or pick in this case) in the club (don't ask me why):
Results for week 11: 0-1 and down $2200 ($2200 wager, $0 payout)
Results through week 11: 5-9, down $3,650 overall
Week 12 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 12: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 12: 5-9, down $3,650 overall
Week 13 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 13: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 13: 5-9, down $3,650 overall
Week 14 he starts posting his picks in the NFL forum again:
Then he adds this at the last minute because of how ty these games turned out:
Results for week 14: 2-3 and up $410 ($2320 wager, $2730 payout)
Results through week 14: 7-12, down $3,240 overall
Week 15 he did not pick any games.
Results for week 15: 0-0 and $0
Results through week 15: 7-12, down $3,240 overall
Week 16 he lays it all on the line with his lock of the year:
Results for week 16: 0-1 and down $5,500 ($5,500 wager, $0 payout)
Results through week 16: 7-13, down $8,740 overall
Current Avante betting tracker: 7-13, down $8,740 overall
What about it Avante?
About a 33% win. This is a lot worse than guessing. If you were purposely trying to miss just say so.
See what Blake is doing there? See how important it is to him? , the guy went back and found that to post here, what's that tell you? Well my son saw how weird this guy was about it, so he started messing with the guy because of what you just saw. The thing was to troll this dummy, as you can see he was owned by a kid.
Then in 2014 he'd moved out and I decided to give out my actual plays something I didn't do. Why do all the work and give out free $$$$? My plays have won 3320 since 2014, won 2100 in 2014 and am at plus 1220 right now.
Check out my Avante thread at the NFL forum, if you do you will watch me win over 3000 this season. I post my plays on Saturdays.
Check out spurraiders (archives) Avante Betting Tracker thread, my 2014 season is there.
Only an idiot like Blake would think anyone can be that bad one season and then win win win the next two.
Last edited by Avante; 10-02-2015 at 12:29 AM.
Uh huh
I don't usually mess with over/under so I had no idea just how crazy that number is:
http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/...llege-footballThe over/under for the*Texas Tech-Baylor*game grew to as high as 90.5 points on Wednesday in Las Vegas, the highest college football total since at least 1990, according to ESPN Stats & Information."It's the highest total ever, to my knowledge, and I've been booking totals forever," said Art Manteris, a 40-year veteran Las Vegas bookmaker .......
It's the biggest I've ever seen also.
Now up to 90.5
Obviously, Vegas thinks that not one ounce of defense will be played that game. The most shocking part though is that the big money is on the over.
Sorry, but I got to throw in a "CROFLMAO Big 12 D-Fence"....I'm sure you completely understand.
Or they have offenses that spread you out and expose every defender on the field. So if you are not deep on D, your screwed. I watched all these "to be" pros on Alabama's defense get the picture against Freeze. Why did Bama hire Kiffin? I believe the SEC does have better defenses. But playing every member of the Big 12 is tougher than many SEC schedules. Missouri had a joke of a schedule last year and got to the mighty SEC championship. Alabama had to "scrape" by this vaunted contest to get to the final 4.It's the biggest I've ever seen also.
Obviously, Vegas thinks that not one ounce of defense will be played that game. The most shocking part though is that the big money is on the over.
Sorry, but I got to throw in a "CROFLMAO Big 12 D-Fence"....I'm sure you completely understand.
Works both ways. Football has changed. Woody Hayes football is gone. Or you get Leonard F or Earl Campbell behind a good offensive line.
How many points ppg is aggy averaging in the sec?
Who have they played so far? We'll re-visit this conversation at the end of the year. They've still got to play Ole Miss, Miss St., Alabama, and LSU.
And there is a huge difference between "Aggy ppg" and having an over/under of 90.5 points. One happens all the time...one happens once in a blue moon. (A 40 year veteran Vegas bookmaker has never seen it)
I guarantee if this Baylor team were playing against Johnny football aggys that the over under would be in the 80s
Nick Saban and Bret "I wish I was" Bulimic:
"Is this what we really want football to be? This many plays, it's going to result in more football injuries"
" The SEC is a man's conference. It's the cruelest, toughest football you will ever play"
I like watching the SEC variety. But cmon Silver&Black, help me with this. You are an honorable man. Wassup?
Sounds about right....tbqh IMO.
But when Mississippi goes Air Freeze it ceases to become the rough tough stuff and that's no good?
and more players get hurt because Saban can't play with gigantic safeties anymore?
The fact that your secondary covering and tackling becomes a big factor along with having a Dline that has to be in top shape is bad. You may have to subs ute for your 250 lb linebacker, this just isn't fair? 370lb Cody is not a top recruit anymore and you might have to go after smaller quicker defensive lineman.
I hate Nick Saban . Not only is he a great recruiter, great coach, fantastic liar, he is also a big baby.
Please don't take this the wrong way. I read your entire post twice....and still don't understand it at all.
What's your point? All I can decipher is that you really hate Nick Saban. Are you saying the SEC isn't the "cruelest, toughest" football in the country because "Mississippi went Air Freeze"? I just don't get what you are trying to say tbh...
Last edited by Silver&Black; 10-03-2015 at 12:31 PM.
It's the toughest because it's got the majority of five star recruits. Style of play can only go so far
Good luck tonight. How do you envision our game going? I think it's going to be a close one. Possibly a FG game. We're without a couple top players with a Speedy Noil and Otaro Alaka being out tonight. Our D can be pretty vulnerable against the run.Texas Tech @ Baylor....
Looks like Prescott isn't running near as much this season though and I think that's what could really hurt us. I think Wilson will have a big game against us also.
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