And would smoke a cat if he could catch it. No thanks.
I'm right there with the OP on the concern. Don't think the Spurs will take a look at Sanders.. but the concern is legit.
IMO, the reality here is that the Spurs didn't need West more than a mobile, rim protector big.
We hate to admit it, because we love the guy. He's a great player that left a lot of money on the table because he wanted to play for the Spurs.
The Spurs had to take it. But at the end of the day, it's not what they needed most.
And we all really hope it works out for everybody.
There is no way that you turn down David West if he wants to leave that much money on the table and come play for you for the minimum. I don't care what anyone says about 'fit'. That doesn't come into the equation.
Who could the Spurs have gotten that is better for the minimum?
Exactly
The concern about the bench defense is valid, many people here have acknowledged it, but realistically, I can't remember a team that lost in the playoffs because of their bench defense..
I agree here. Spurs needed a backup center and guard after Splitter and CoJo left. The went across the world to find Boban and the lucked out and traded nothing for McCallum. I don't know who replaces Belinelli though.
Yes, many of games have been lost because a bench got out scored. The 2014 le had a second unit that obliterated other teams. But I think your point may be something more to bench defense the last 5 minutes of a quarter when your starters may be in. In a game 7, last two minutes, yes I agree it would be hard for Pop to bench Duncan and play Sanders for defense. That said, Pop did use Splitter in those situations and it's not far fetched that he would do it with someone like Sanders if he earned Pop's trust. None of this will happen, I'm just saying we do have a need and Sanders would be a below the radar, low risk add.The concern about the bench defense is valid, many people here have acknowledged it, but realistically, I can't remember a team that lost in the playoffs because of their bench defense
Having a good/bad bench certainly has an effect on the outcome of games, but bench defense in isolation, specifically, doesn't IMO, unless it's at the extreme of either good/bad..even then, the playoffs are rarely decided by the bench(Spurs lost to a Clippers team with arguably the worst bench in the NBA, for example)..
The Spurs bench is going to struggle on defense, but they're going to be great offensively, too..that's easily sufficient for a le run, there's no question IMO..they're going to outscore the opposition on most nights..
I agree with you that it would have been ideal to get a Splitter type, I would have preferred keeping Splitter over Boris(although Diaw probably has no value outside of SA anymore), and if not a defensive C, then at least a 3rd defensive wing(which the Spurs haven't had in this current era of Spurs basketball and still won a le/made it to 2 Finals), but you can't build a perfect team, unfortunately..
In a perfect world, a like Larry Sanders would straighten his head and get his together, but those types of situations rarely work out..
pop lol @ thread tbh
The Spurs were close to signing Oden a couple of seasons ago so I wouldn't completely rule Sanders out from consideration. But it seems unlikely that the Spurs cut Bonner or Boban (they won't carry more than 6 bigs) just to take a chance on him.
We got LMA
Fit and character are the most important thing to Pop, talent be damned. These are guys that just think like its a videogame.
Shame he's a nut case, he'd be crazy good on the pick and roll with Manu coming off the bench. But then again if he wasn't a nut case he probably would still be on a team. Solid rebounder, solid defender, solid athlete.
Well, Pop added Stephen Jackson a second time. He had talent, but was obviously a basket case and eventually had to be kicked off the team for causing team turmoil. I don’t know if “character” is what is harming Sanders’s value. Maybe. Or maybe he has a mental illness. No doubt Pop looks at certain aspects of character, but I think we paint it broad. He’ll take on a head case so long as the head case practices hard and tries to function within the context of a team. I don’t know that I’ve seen that Sanders couldn’t do that on a team laden with veterans. I think that Bucks team had the inmates running the asylum.
Only a re would think the spurs are interested in a dumbass like Sanders. Probably Dallas imo
Maybe Boban is getting home sick, and does not see the NBA to be what he wanted it to be.
To be fair, trading for SJax was less about getting him and almost all about getting rid of RJ. They even saved about 10 Mil doing it. Pop knew that SJax might work but really knew that he could cut him and still have saved moolah. Plus the ultimate bonus of getting out from under the albatross contract of HWSNBN.
This. They didn't do it to get jack back, they did it to save money, and a goodly amount. Saving $11m only cost them a very late first rounder. The normal price for those picks was the maximum trade cash of $3m.
Having Jack ultimately crash and burn turned that trade from the greatest of all time to simply the second best in franchise history. Jack was the best player on the Spurs in his last playoff series with the team.
Yes, but there might have been other trades that could've worked to accomplish the same goal. Pop was still willing to take on a head case regardless. Pop could've waived him earlier too, but kept him sround. Again, my point is that you guys are acting like Pop won't take on a head case based on his character policy. I'm telling you Pop doesn't have that narrow a definition of character issue that you guys are suggesting. Jackson was a prime example. Do you think Detroit or Indiana would've traded for Jackson to save money?
I Feel sorry for the Larry Sanders, he's the reverse Hassan Whiteside.
I think any team in the league would take any shorter contract to save $11M, at the cost of only a late 20s draft pick.. Pop showed that if it goes south, you cut the bait loose. Jack proved useful for 2 months, plus playoffs, only to be completely useless the following year. He had a history here, but Detroit or Indy could have simply cut him quicker than Pop did, like immediately, and still saved that $11M.
You won't convince me that SA did it for any other than financial reasons. Pop, talking to Jack while rerouting him during the trade from his SFO flight to SAT flat out said "We won't be talking about an extension." Do you do that to a player that you want and value? Nope. You do it with a guy you have every intention of rolling off in a year and a half.
Maybe it's Denver. At least he can smoke weed there legally.
I haven't seen any of the Spurs preseason games yet, but it seems that people are saying Boban is fairly (or surprisingly) mobile.
Spurs last year being one team, you ing ty poster...The concern about the bench defense is valid, many people here have acknowledged it, but realistically, I can't remember a team that lost in the playoffs because of their bench defense
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