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    How ironic tho, with their reputation for not fouling, Spurs are also the flagship for Hack-a-Shaq
    We haven't played Dwight or deandre yet. We'll get back to average after facing those teams.

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    Yes, this was mentioned in the Celtics game. The spurs also average less FT's than most of the NBA teams. Not a good combination lol

    ^ The above poster is right. The Spurs need more three point shooting. Kawhi and Danny are struggling from behind the arc.
    Did you not read the thread le?

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    Warriors are so high above any other team right now ... we can thank Doc Rivers and other assholes for really firing them up ... they are not even coasting on defense which was our only chance for them not being the clear favorite for the #1 seed. They played small against Grizzlies and still blocked shot after shot.

    Regarding the Spurs ... the three point shooting is critical ... if DG gets not hot soon to reach around 40% again we are toast

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    Good to reverse a bit the course/trend as the league was aping our space-pace model en masse basically..We really needed talent and easy buckets that were no longer there with Tony massive decline..it is less taxing than the perfect team basketball that netted us the 2014 chip..That said, at some point we need not to forget about involving guys like Green and Mills and that can only be when ball/player movement is back in synch.
    Basically this.

    It seems to me though.. that the bench is a bit more ahead on the ball movement, understandably.

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    ^^ There was never a realistic chance for anybody else to get the #1 seed, outside of maybe OKC..

    The Warriors just won 67 games and are bringing back the same roster, they have more continuity than any team in the league and don't need to change their style of play, at all..same 67 win team, all key players in their prime, including their superstar player(the 2nd best player in the league)..

    The Spurs and Clippers are integrating several new players into their rotation, with the former altering a major part of their system by bringing in Aldridge..fortunately for the Spurs, the best division in the league has potentially taken a huge step down with New Orleans's injuries and Memphis being exposed..

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    But is the 3 so critical for the Spurs really, with this team?

    With the way that TD KL LA are so strong in the midgame/close , even Parker and West when he's on...

    It just doesn't seem so vital to me.

    With that being said, once the interior dominance, gels, those 3 pointers will be open that much more.


    Feels like the Spurs are more combination of Fury and Flurry now, which I personally am in favor of above and over reliance on the 3 ball.

    Work inside out again, we have the talent and the skill.

    Eat up possessions and grind a little more. I'm getting an idea of what's on the horizon for this incarnation of the Spurs and it will devour those Buttlerflies in Golden State.

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    I'm always under the impression that a championship team which brings the same roster and system to the next season will give other teams time to figure them out, and an off-season to add pieces to adjust, unless the team is so great and talented that it won't matter.

    I guess we'll see if that's the case with the Warriors.

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    ^^ There was never a realistic chance for anybody else to get the #1 seed, outside of maybe OKC..

    The Warriors just won 67 games and are bringing back the same roster, they have more continuity than any team in the league and don't need to change their style of play, at all..same 67 win team, all key players in their prime, including their superstar player(the 2nd best player in the league)..

    The Spurs and Clippers are integrating several new players into their rotation, with the former altering a major part of their system by bringing in Aldridge..fortunately for the Spurs, the best division in the league has potentially taken a huge step down with New Orleans's injuries and Memphis being exposed..
    Yep..can't really underestimate that factor, tbh..there is still a potential Rockets implosion around the corner with Dallas even more mediocre overall than last season..Huge break we caught that should dilute whatever W-L ground we would hove lost in the early integration process...3/4 of our games vs Warriors/OKC are deep in March April, too..

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    Especially when they mirrored the Spurs system in large parts.

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    Spurs also have the potential to be a historically good road team imo. Lot of star talent and veteran players on top of a proven system. Unlike in years past the Spurs don't need HCA to win a series, but a top 3 seed is extremely important to avoid having to play three of OKC, LAC, HOU, and GS. I can't see the Spurs winning a le in that fashion.

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    I'm always under the impression that a championship team which brings the same roster and system to the next season will give other teams time to figure them out, and an off-season to add pieces to adjust, unless the team is so great and talented that it won't matter.

    I guess we'll see if that's the case with the Warriors.
    Other teams can figure it out as you said and can't do much about it when they have a player like Curry and the opposition don't have defensive perimeter beasts like DG And KL2. Golden State is clearly on a mission and it is to win B2B. They are playing out of their minds. Injuries and the Spurs (2nd in oppg) are the only visible drawbacks that can really stop them from having another historic season. They just destroyed Memphis by 50 points. Some reality check.

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    Out of all the 'sky is falling' threads I've seen in Spurstalk since the start of the season, this is the only one that has merit. Only LMA ha sshown the ability to draw fouls because he seeks contact. kawhi, for all his aggressiveness, does not throw his body at defenders often enough, rather opting for better shot balance. This should be remedied somehow, free points being hard to come by will be a problem eventually.

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    ...kawhi, for all his aggressiveness, does not throw his body at defenders often enough, rather opting for better shot balance...
    I agree. Kawhi needs to learn a convincing pump fake too but I think he's too mechanic and robotic in his movements. At least he got really good teachers if interested. Manu, LMA, Marco in the past all have a very good pump fake and constantly are drawing fouls because of it.
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    I agree. Kawhi needs to learn a convincing pump fake too but I think he's to mechanic and robotic in his movements. At least he got really good teachers if interested. Manu, LMA, Marco in the past all have a very good pump fake and constantly are drawing fouls because of it.
    Kawhi needs to watch some KA summer league tape.
    Kyle was drawing fouls with his drive and fake like no other

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    Nothing to see here, just the Spurs depending on Verde to get out of slump again. We should be able to win tons of games in the regular season without him going crazy from three, but in the playoffs, he'll need to be on his A-game every series. Patty too.

    We've relied heavily on Danny's hot shooting streaks the last few years and Marco leaving only increases that burden on him.

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    I'm more worried about the Spurs 3 point shooting. They'll need to sign an additional shooter. Butler sucks.
    disagree 100%, Butler is a very good shooter given the opportunities. Anderson, on the other hand, sucks (especially considering he's undeservedly gotten more PT than Butler).

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    disagree 100%, Butler is a very good shooter given the opportunities. Anderson, on the other hand, sucks (especially considering he's undeservedly gotten more PT than Butler).
    22 yrs old player with upside vs an aarp member. Don't be dense. I don't care if you don't like Kyle but don't act like he's not deserving of his contract and playing time. Second guessing the league's best coach and front office is a losing bet.

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    Parker's penetration was a better offensive foundation than any post game can be. Honestly, the Spurs just really aren't a foul-shooting team as constructed. They shoot a lot of jump shots, and those only draw fouls against bad defenders.
    Agreed, that is why I like an aggressive Aldridge. Not that he's the king of foul drawing, but when he gets aggressive, he can actually draw fouls. He's just too strong that not many guys can contain him one on one without fouling him once or twice. Him being in a state of letting the game come to him, is a role not conducive to foul drawing.

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    22 yrs old player with upside vs an aarp member. Don't be dense. I don't care if you don't like Kyle but don't act like he's not deserving of his contract and playing time. Second guessing the league's best coach and front office is a losing bet.
    The Spurs' system isn't built to give rotation minutes to a wing who can't shoot, is a mediocre at best defender, and slows down the pace of the attack offensively.

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    I agree. Kawhi needs to learn a convincing pump fake too but I think he's to mechanic and robotic in his movements. At least he got really good teachers if interested. Manu, LMA, Marco in the past all have a very good pump fake and constantly are drawing fouls because of it.
    Slow-Mo too. Nowhere near any of those guys, and yet his pump fake gets guys in the air. lol He's kind of the king of throwing people off and mistiming whatever it is he's doing. Long arms too. Not to kid around, I really like him next to Leonard at SG.

    I really wish Slow-Mo could help a little more this season. So many fans are saying he hasn't shown anything, but truly he hasn't even gotten the chance to. Even the starters have struggled here, so to expect him to come in like Kawhi, ready and firing is unrealistic to say the least. That doesn't mean that he can't catch a rhythm later on during the season.

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    The Spurs' system isn't built to give rotation minutes to a wing who can't shoot, is a mediocre at best defender, and slows down the pace of the attack offensively.
    You are concluding too much from a spare minute here or there.
    Rather I think Pop has tightened the rotation because their main guys have been out of rhythm themselves and having too many mistakes of their own.

    Your hate of Anderson will make you very sour all season, bc he is part of the Spurs future, and we are likely to need him to come through even this season. Manu is not going to hold up playing 20-24 minutes and and B2B.

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    When you have the DPOY in the game, the refs aren't going to call ticky tack fouls and they just use that guideline for the rest of the players that game. That means our players aren't going to draw many fouls themselves.

    Also helps that the Spurs rarely foul to begin with.

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    Slow-Mo too. Nowhere near any of those guys, and yet his pump fake gets guys in the air. lol He's kind of the king of throwing people off and mistiming whatever it is he's doing. Long arms too. Not to kid around, I really like him next to Leonard at SG.

    I really wish Slow-Mo could help a little more this season. So many fans are saying he hasn't shown anything, but truly he hasn't even gotten the chance to. Even the starters have struggled here, so to expect him to come in like Kawhi, ready and firing is unrealistic to say the least. That doesn't mean that he can't catch a rhythm later on during the season.
    Slomo doesn't space the floor. He will not see many minutes with Kawhi.

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    When you have the DPOY in the game, the refs aren't going to call ticky tack fouls and they just use that guideline for the rest of the players that game. That means our players aren't going to draw many fouls themselves.

    Also helps that the Spurs rarely foul to begin with.
    Yeah...Memphis for a few years used toget away with murder during gasol dpoy days. They were fouling Blake all the time and the clilpers never got a call

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    Not a huge fan of tenhead tbh. Slow and cant shoot

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