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    Or Pop needs to stagger lineups more and take Parker out sooner and give him more minutes w/ 2nd unit and Patty more minutes w/ 1st unit. Don't necessarily have to start Patty to accommodate OP's notion.. tbh
    This^.

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    Porker's game isn't conducive to being an effective bench player & Danny has to play w/ the big boys to get open looks when the defense cheats. The solution is to bench Porker in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters. Heeeeeroooooooo Ball (c) Enirique
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    We almost won it all 2012 in a "rebuilding" year. We can do it again. KA isnt a rookie, and honestly neither is Boban. If Pop would let them take their lumps now we could be in good shape come may.
    The Spurs have not changed this much since at least 2002, tbh... especially with the role changes due to the aging HoFs...

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    I think that's an inaccurate statement. There have been a few times where Lamarcus has got the ball after screens and passed up open looks. Hes so wrapped up in fitting in that he wont let the offense come to him. I think in the beginning he should shoot the open looks off of the pick and pop. And then with his defender starts closing hard on him he should drive by him draw the double and look for the kick out. once this happens, it will add more flow to the offense and create a more hybrid version of the adaptive look that pop is looking for.
    Well, I don't think we'll go full blown Portland, but we do pass up posting him up quite a bit, tbh... now I don't disagree that he also looks tentative and has even passed up shots he should take... but his usage I don't think it's as big as I thought it would be. My opinion, obviously.

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    Anyway to get Steph by next game? Then probably not.

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    The type of shots that Aldridge is getting is a bigger problem than the number IMO..
    All starts and ends with his footwork and legs-- which is tied to his weight gain.

    Losing 15 pounds from all the wine and dine's this summer would help more than the journalism major's/Spurs expert twitter pro's realize.

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    Terrible post by OP per par tbh.....

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    Terrible post by OP per par tbh.....
    haters gonna hate, tbh

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    I wonder what kind of bonus OP gets if El Cliente starts half the season tbh.

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    Dead people don't get bonuses, tbh

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    Anyone in the first-year of a contract has a player-option trade exemption via bird rights.
    No. Only one-year and one-and-one guys who have re-signed with their teams (like Lebron, Duncan and Manu) have the de-facto no-trade clause.

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    I'll play along I guess...

    Porky PG has actually done a decent job of running the offense. Spacing/PG play really hasn't been an issue as much as Green not hitting shots and guys not knowing where they're supposed to be, issues that will be rectified with more time.....

    Lot of discussion over a meaningless Nov. loss at the end of a East Coast trip against a team the Spurs will roll by 20+ when they play them at home tbh.....

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    Whatever Mills' or Kyle Anderson's flaws, they're at least better defenders than Parker. Plus Mills has a 3PT shot and Anderson can create better than Parker and will only get better. Parker should just be a backup. We don't need Parker in this first unit - all he brings is a half-decent mid-range jumper and easy layups against scrubs.

    Parker is perfect for trashing lower skilled teams and taking the pressure off Kawhi/LMA to perform all the time every game. Instead they focus on getting the crucial baskets.

    I don't know how good Mills or Anderson would be starting, but I think it's time to just throw them in there because Parker's not working. Either way we're screwed, may as well try and find a solution before May and it's too late.

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    I just thought about this some more and what is more likely to happen is just Pop going to post ups to close out a game, and get away from the PnR with Tony in general. Try to get the ball into your two best players like in the Celtics game. The backcourt is probably going to stay as it is. Those guys will figure it out.

    Anderson is just going to continue to get chances to develop his game, particularly for those moments when Manu is resting.

    Tony and Danny will carry the backcourt, we will just need to have the ball much more in the hands of our two best players, which I don't even know why Pop didn't go to that at all.

    By the way, just came accross this in an article on SAEN on Aldridge: Apparently Kyle sat in the second half because of a bruise on his right shoulder.
    Second-year forward Kyle Anderson did not play in the second half in Washington after colliding with the Wizards’ Nene.
    Anderson, who had his right shoulder iced after the game, said he was banged up but doesn’t think the issue will carry over to Saturday’s game against Charlotte.
    http://www.expressnews.com/sports/sp...witter-premium
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    Something I just mentioned in another thread, but I think it's worth discussing on it's own.
    It's a relatively small sample size, but i have all 7 games Pattycake has started as a Spur. I'm letting you know El Nono i gave up, well i watched in a distracted mode the last half of Jeopardy and part of a Judas Priest concert as i researched Pattys Starter stats.

    5 - 2 (I posted all the details on "Patty Mills record and stats as a starter" thread)
    The two losses essentially do not count, as they were both the infamous games where Pop sat Duncan, GNob, Green and Parker.

    Since we both know some moron(s) will now post "So you're saying the Spurs will go undefeated with Patty as a starter." No. It's just a reference. The most relevant game, vs Golden State last Dec 19th, Patty rocked with:

    34 min
    20 pts 8 - 17
    5 assists
    3 steals.
    Meanwhile got Curry 12-28 after chasing Patty around rather then being on snooze control.

    Already been posted how it's really who finishes that counts. Nonetheless with Patty starting it seems we will always get his infectious enthusiasm. Not with the other guy.
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    No. Only one-year and one-and-one guys who have re-signed with their teams (like Lebron, Duncan and Manu) have the de-facto no-trade clause.
    so Bonner, too?

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    Quote this whenever some idiot on ST inevitably tries to include Bonner in a potential trade deal with a lottery team around the deadline this year. Bonner will do the Devean George and block such a trade, he cares about winning too.

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    Quote this whenever some idiot on ST inevitably tries to include Bonner in a potential trade deal with a lottery team around the deadline this year. Bonner will do the Devean George and block such a trade, he cares about winning too.
    I don't think he will. The Spurs have given him good money over the years, and I think he'd accept a trade if the club really wanted it to happen.

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    I don't think he will. The Spurs have given him good money over the years, and I think he'd accept a trade if the club really wanted it to happen.
    I don't think so, particularly since the last CBA banned the 30 day buy-out and re-up schtick. He doesn't want to be denied his last opportunity to win a ring with the others

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    I don't think so, particularly since the last CBA banned the 30 day buy-out and re-up schtick. He doesn't want to be denied his last opportunity to win a ring with the others
    They can, and will just cut him. He doesn't get to force his way onto the team is they don't want him.

    Plus, the Spurs can just give him a ring if they win after trading him. There's no rule against that.

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    I can't believe people on Spurstalk are actually in favor of starting SloMo to HELP our defense.

    Have you guys ever actually watched him play? smh
    Wait, were people really arguing for him to improve defense? I thought people wanted him to add a playmaker/distributer to the SL? At the least, he would be a net 0 on defense relative to Parker when you have Danny and Kawhi out there.

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    We could have the perfect backcourt with a couple of simple trades that would be easy to make if only RC and Pop would pull their heads out of their ass and take some advice. We should trade Parker for John Wall and Patty for Chris Paul and get it done before the trade deadline.

    I know there are some haters who will disagree, but I can't hear you, nyah, nyah, nyah, lalalalalalalalalalalalala La. So there.

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    Great discussion OP...When your lead assist man in SL is 40-yo PF/c Tim Duncan (3.4 APG), you got a playmaking problem..it's easy..I will go with staggering minutes solution (per Parker) in the next 10 games and see what's going on before touching the Green-Kawhi foundation..

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    Great discussion OP...When your lead assist man in SL is 40-yo PF/c Tim Duncan (3.4 APG), you got a playmaking problem..it's easy..I will go with staggering minutes solution (per Parker) in the next 10 games and see what's going on before touching the Green-Kawhi foundation..
    I agree with you. I think Pop will continue to give opportunities to these guys before altering what they are doing, but he is already subbing Patty and Diaw sooner, and has Patty with Tony a whole lot more together than he's had them in the past. Its possibly because of Patty's shooting, but also because Patty handles the ball and moves off the ball better than Danny, and Danny is currently slumping in his shooting.

    I think Danny will continue to get opportunities and he's bound to get hot soon. If that doesn't happen within the next 10 games or we loose some unexpected games, we might see some Ginobili sooner. I used to think Kyle should get a chance, like I have posted a few days past, but I now think that Pop will be extremely reluctant to do that.

    Kyle's in a short leash even in the bench as it is. Pop is not going to fast track him in any way, unless he starts to shoot 3s at a high rate, which is not his game... so our best hope right now is for these guys to figure it out soon.

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