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http://news.yahoo.com/polish-ministe...225004972.html
Truth bombs from new polish foreign minister
don't be fooled by AlJazeera.
Al Jazeera's detractors have long dismissed the network as a vehicle for Doha's foreign policy, one driven by Sunni sectarianism and an overriding antagonism toward Iran.[41] Voices critical of Qatar's government—the "worst in the region" in tracking terrorist financing, according to U.S. diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks[42]—are nonexistent in English or Arabic.[43] In 2011, both channels provided only scant coverage of the uprising in neighboring Bahrain—where a downtrodden Shiite majority demanded greater rights in the Sunni-led kingdom[44]—and were slow to cede airtime to the rebellion in Syria—a leader of the "resistance bloc" against the United States and Israel even if it is allied with the Shiite hegemon in Tehran.[45]
"Sunni religious figures are almost always treated deferentially as voices of authority on almost any issue, and Arab governments as useless stooges of the United States and Israel."
http://www.meforum.org/3147/al-jazeera
http://news.yahoo.com/polish-ministe...225004972.html
Truth bombs from new polish foreign minister
Pakistan has made improvments though they have a long way to go. They've been democratic for over 5 years now, they've eliminated most of the Pakistan Taliban and their economy has improved.
oBama Friday: "We have ISIS contained in Syria and Iraq"
oBama today: "It reminds us that it will not be enough to take on ISIL in Iraq and Syria alone."
Sounds like an excellent plan to me.
They're in Florida right now!
What are you going to do?
Pakistan have their mortal enemies in India and are being showered with $$$ from Saudi Arabia to do their bidding.
They are currently investing in tactical nuclear weaponry system to combat India's military superiority. If a war were to break out there, Pakistan would be the first country ever to depend on tactical nuclear weapons as their bread and butter.
believe me, if a major regional war were to break out, India and Pakistan would unleash against the other
There Is Only One Way to Defeat ISIS
We must hold accountable our Middle Eastern "allies"—the states and bankers and political elites—who persist in funding mass murder.
It is long past time for the oligarchies of the Gulf states to stop paying protection to the men in the suicide belts. Their societies are stunted and parasitic. The main job of the elites there is to find enough foreign workers to ensla…er…indenture to do all the real work. The example of Qatar and the interesting business plan through which that country is building the facilities for the 2022 World Cup is instructive here. Roughly the same labor-management relationship exists for the people who clean the hotel rooms and who serve the drinks. In Qatar, for people who come from elsewhere to work, passports have been known to disappear into thin air. These are the societies that profit from terrible and tangled web of causation and violence that played out on the streets of Paris. These are the people who buy their safety with the blood of innocents far away.
It's not like this is any kind of secret.In 2010, thanks to WikiLeaks, we learned that the State Department, under the direction of then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, knew full well where the money for foreign terrorism came from. It came from countries and not from a faith. It came from sovereign states and not from an organized religion. It came from politicians and dictators, not from clerics, at least not directly. It was paid to maintain a political and social order, not to promulgate a religious revival or to launch a religious war. Religion was the fuel, the ammonium nitrate and the diesel fuel. Authoritarian oligarchy built the bomb. As long as people are dying in Paris, nobody important is dying in Doha or Riyadh.
Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton.
"More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
"Donors in Saudi Arabia cons ute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," she said. Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates.
The cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them. The problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned charities.
It's time for this to stop. It's time to be pitiless against the bankers and against the people who invest in murder to assure their own survival in power. Assets from these states should be frozen, all over the west. Money trails should be followed, wherever they lead. People should go to jail, in every country in the world. It should be done state-to-state. Stop funding the murder of our citizens and you can have your money back. Maybe.
If we're satisfied that you'll stop doing it. And, it goes without saying, but we'll say it anyway – not another bullet will be sold to you, let alone advanced warplanes, until this act gets cleaned up to our satisfaction. If that endangers your political position back home, that's your problem, not ours. You are no longer trusted allies. Complain, and your diplomats will be going home.
Complain more loudly, and your diplomats will be investigated and, if necessary, detained. Retaliate, and you do not want to know what will happen, but it will done with cold, reasoned and, yes, pitiless calculation. It will not be a blind punch. You will not see it coming. It will not be an attack on your faith. It will be an attack on how you conduct your business as sovereign states in a world full of sovereign states.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...n-oligarchies/
USA, under the thumb and donations of BigOil, won't dare confront the Gulf States.
They don't get along, but there no where close to any nuclear war. Pakistan's nuclear weapons have caused them more grief than anything else. They're constantly having to guard it. Pakistan gets money from the Saudis, but they get much more from the Chinese including weapons and inteliigence support. The Chinese are their closest allies and they dislike India as well. Pakistan has also started to become friendly with the Russians since India is getting more weapons from the U.S.
Sanity is such a head. First turning this thread into a gun debate and just general ignorance of the middle east situation pre occupation.
I wish people like him vanish already. Just stupid.
One has to give the NSA a massive thumbs up for a more strict civilan monitoring. I think its time the west takes another step forward and start blocking things online like china and Turkey. Majority of these misguided radicals are brainwashed via the online media.
lol at implying Al Jazeera is ISIS controlled but that you still "somtimes" read it...Al Jazeera is an Arab/Qatari news organization. Its basically the news organization of the guys that fund ISIS.
now don't get me wrong. i do read them sometimes. But you have to take their opinions with a block (not a grain) of salt
Arizona pastor blames ‘sinful’ France and death metal for Paris terror massacre
A bloodthirsty Arizona pastor said victims of the Paris terror attack were at least partially to blame for their own murders because they had attended a death metal concert.Three gunmen burst into a concert Friday night by the Eagles of Death Metal at Le Bataclan, opening fire and killing a reported 87 people — some of whom can be seen clearly in haunting photographs taken just moments before the massacre.
Pastor Steven Anderson, of Faithful Word Baptist Church, reacted to the terror attacks by denouncing France as a “sinful nation” and saying the victims basically had it coming, reported the Friendly Atheist blog.
“When you go to a concert of death metal, somebody might get killed,” Anderson said. “You know, you’re worshiping death, and then, all of a sudden, people start dying.”
Anderson — who had called for the execution of LGBT people, in general, and Caityln Jenner, in particular— conceded their deaths were a “terrible tragedy,” but he said they were at least partially complicit.
“Well, you love death so much, you bought the ticket, you love worshiping Satan,” Anderson said. “Well, let’s have some of Satan’s religion come in and shoot you. I mean, that’s what these people should think about before they go into such a wicked concert.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ariz...e+Raw+Story%29
lol, the actual original target was the soccer game.
no, they targeted "lifestyle" activities
1) soccer
2) pop music
3) dining out (with Satanic wine)
One of the original targets was the soccer game.
huh? I said:lol at implying Al Jazeera is ISIS controlled but that you still "somtimes" read it...
Al Jazeera is an Arab/Qatari news organization. Its basically the news organization of the guys that fund ISIS.
nothing in that statement is false. It's all fact.
If you're not implying that Al Jazeera is ISIS controlled then why does your statement that it is "basically the news organization of the guys that fund ISIS" matter?
Al Jazeera is an Arab/Qatari news organization.
Qatar and Saudi are the funders of ISIS
therefore:
Al Jazeera is basically the news organization of the guys that fund ISIS.
logic 101
Does your dumbass really think that the behavior of the elites is tantamount to official policy?LOL...
I hate to, but I must completely agree that we, as a general audience, are really dumb.
Aljajeera is controlled by Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani, in Qatar. Qatar is the most influential of the middle eastern counties, and has is the richest country per capita in the world. Aljazeera may be one reason for that.
Though they are entrenched in Wahhabi culture and Sharia law, they have been recognizing other global aspects. I firmly believe that they are a culture that will naturally come around to more western like ideals as time goes by.
Though this is from 2011, Qatar is allowing their women unveiled:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/...-2012-olympics
Allowed to be photographed unveiled:
Prominent roles in speaking on behalf of Qatar:
Please don't assume Aljazeera is biased towards typical islamic beliefs.
The Qatari are also noted for being at odds with the other Arab states. Painting with one brush is fun and all but jeez. And you were saying the American population was so dumb. We aren't all as stupid as partschanger.
But so many are as stupid as you!
You didn't answer my question. Who gives a ? So that's why "you have to take their opinions with a block (not a grain) of salt"???
That's right.
Cherry pick from the several I used.
Why do I see your picture in the dictionary when I look up loser?
As Saudi Arabia seeks to inoculate itself against the push for greater freedom, transparency and accountability sweeping the Middle East and North Africa, a major challenge to the kingdom’s puritan interpretation of Islam sits on its doorstep: Qatar, the only other country whose native population is Wahhabi and that adheres to the Wahhabi creed. It is a challenge that is rooted in historical tensions that go back to Qatari efforts in the nineteenth century to carve out an iden y of its own. It also stems from long-standing differences in religious interpretations that are traceable to Qatar’s geography, patterns of trade and history; and a partially deliberate failure to groom a class of popular Muslim legal scholars of its own. More recently, Qatar’s development of an activist foreign policy promoting Islamist-led political change in the Middle East and North Africa as well as a soft power strategy designed to reduce its dependence on a Saudi defence umbrella was prompted by a perception that it no longer can assume that the kingdom would be able to effectively protect it. Although long existent, the challenge has never been as stark as it is now, at a time of massive change in the region. The differences are being fought out in Syria and Arab nations who, have in recent years, toppled their autocratic leaders, Egypt being one of the first and foremost.
While the differences in social, foreign and security policies cannot be hidden, Qatar, which hosts the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East, and Saudi Arabia have nevertheless moved in recent years from a cold war to a modi of good neighbourly relations and cooperation with clearly defined albeit unspoken red lines to outright proxy confrontation. In the process, Qatar has emerged as living proof that Wahhabism, the puritan version of Islam developed by the eighteenth century preacher, Mohammed Abdul Wahhab, that dictates life in Saudi Arabia since its creation, can be somewhat forward and outward looking rather than repressive and restrictive. It is a testimony that is by definition subversive and is likely to serve much more than the case of freewheeling Dubai as an inspiration for conservative Saudi society that acknowledges its roots but in which various social groups are increasingly voicing their desire for change. The subversive nature of Qatar’s approach is symbolized by its long-standing, deep-seated ties to the Muslim Brotherhood that faces one of its most serious litmus tests at a time of the ascension of a new emir and a successful Saudi counter-revolutionary campaign that helped topple the government of Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi in July 2013, and that same month, curtailed Qatari influence within the rebel movement opposed to embattled Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.
Everything but a Mirror Image
A multi-domed, sand-coloured, architectural marvel, Doha’s newest and biggest mosque, symbolizes Qatar’s complex and volatile relationship with Saudi Arabia as well as its bold soft power policy designed to propel it to the cutting edge of the twenty first century. It is not the mosque itself that has raised eyebrows but its naming after an eighteenth century warrior priest, Sheikh Mohammed Abdul Wahhab, the founder of Islam’s most puritan sect.
The naming of the mosque that overlooks the Qatar Sports Club in Doha’s Jubailat district was intended to pacify more traditional segments of Qatari society as well as Saudi Arabia, which sees the tiny Gulf state, the only other country whose native population is Wahhabi, as a troublesome and dangerous gadfly on its doorstep challenging its puritan interpretation of Islam as well as its counterrevolutionary strategy in the Middle East and North Africa. Qatar’s social revolution in the past two decades challenges Saudi efforts to maintain as much as possible of its status quo while impregnating itself against the push for greater freedom, transparency and accountability sweeping the region. By naming the mosque after Abdul Wahhab, Qatar reaffirmed its adherence to the Wahhabi creed that goes back to nineteenth century Saudi support and the ultimate rise to dominance of the Al Thani clan, the country’s hereditary monarchs until today who account for an estimated twenty per cent of the population.[1]
Yet, despite being a traditional Gulf state, Qatari conservatism is everything but a mirror image of Saudi Arabia’s staark way of life with its powerful, conservative clergy, absolute gender segregation; total ban on alcohol and houses of worship for adherents of other religions, and refusal to accommodate alternative lifestyles or religious practices. Qataris privately distinguish between their “Wahhabism of the sea” as opposed to Saudi Arabia’s “Wahhabism of the land,” a reference to the fact that the Saudi government has less control of an empowered clergy compared to Qatar that has no indigenous clergy with a social base to speak of; a Saudi history of tribal strife over oases as opposed to one of communal life in Qatar, and Qatar’s outward looking maritime trade history. Political scientists Birol Baskan and Steven Wright argue that on a political level, Qatar has a secular character similar to Turkey and in sharp contrast to Saudi Arabia, which they attribute to Qatar’s lack of a class of Muslim legal scholars.[2] The absence of scholars was in part a reflection of Qatari ambivalence towards Wahhabism that it viewed as both an opportunity and a threat: on the one hand it served as a tool to legitimise domestic rule, on the other it was a potential monkey wrench Saudi Arabia could employ to assert control. Opting to generate a clerical class of its own would have enhanced the threat because Qatar would have been dependent on Saudi clergymen to develop its own. That would have produced a clergy steeped in the kingdom’s austere theology and inspired by its history of political power-sharing that would have advocated a Saudi-style, state-defined form of political Islam.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=61189
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