OT: Is larry bird the most overrated all time great of all time?

[apalisoc_9]

So many people say go Granite. But nothing is as versatile as Quartz or as nuanced as Soapstone.

This guy keeps on denying the obvious difference in skill level in todays game and in the past...I guess since the 80s had a lot lf white peeps you gotta defend that er eh?

Too bad only 5% of them exist today. Better start watching another sport imo.

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah...Gerad Green would be God in the 80s

[pgardn]

Mike in his younger days was an athletic player tbh. Bird is probably a fringe D league player in todays game..still like I said he is top 15 for influence reasons and he did help revive basketball alongside MCW lite magic johnson

You were decapitated when?

[HarlemHeat37]

KL2, serious talk, why do you think the NBA went from 25+% White Americans in the 80s, to about 7% today, tbh?

It's not like baseball, where s just lost interest in the sport..White Americans still play at a star level in the NCAA, and there are still some decent guys in the league(Love, Re , etc)..why was there such a substantial dip in the numbers?

[JMarkJohns]

How long can KL2 and Apalisoc_9 finger each other's thought dumper on this topic? Their one-upsmanship has been as epic as a Matt Bonner highlight reel.

[pgardn]

Pretty much...its so sad how people deny the obvious difference in skill level between todays players and the past..Can you imagine Gerald Green doing his dunks in the 80's

Dominique Wilkins

Oh you have seen the tapes so he is also D-league.

Little Asian dip has not a clue...

[spurraider21]

In 2070 kawhi would probably be a 15th man DNP kinda player tbh. Curry is revoultinizing the offense right now. Pretty soon a curry like player would be the norm

sorta like how magic revolutionized offense and now everybody has a 6'9 point guard

[Cry Havoc]

Mike in his younger days was an athletic player tbh. Bird is probably a fringe D league player in todays game..still like I said he is top 15 for influence reasons and he did help revive basketball alongside MCW lite magic johnson

You are literally the stupidest person on spurstalk.

[HarlemHeat37]

Dominique Wilkins

Oh you have seen the tapes so he is also D-league.

Little Asian dip has not a clue...

I'm a big fan of 80s and 90s players, but Dominique's dunks don't hold up well today, tbh..

[spurraider21]

I'm a big fan of 80s and 90s players

but Dominique's dunks don't hold up well today, tbh..

[Cry Havoc]

I'm a big fan of 80s and 90s players, but Dominique's dunks don't hold up well today, tbh..

So you agree with apa, that bird (and presumably 'nique) would be 15th men on their team?

[pgardn]

I'm a big fan of 80s and 90s players, but Dominique's dunks don't hold up well today, tbh..

Tbh they do.

And just for you.

[HarlemHeat37]

I remember being 11-12 years old and hearing about Dominique Wilkins and his dunks..no YouTube back then, I bought burned DVDs of the dunk contests with Wilkins, Spud Webb and Jordan..one of the 10 most disappointing things I've ever watched, tbh

I was living in Toronto at the time, too, exacerbating the disappointment, as I used to watch Vince Carter do something superior to their best contest dunks virtually every single game

[KL2]

KL2, serious talk, why do you think the NBA went from 25+% White Americans in the 80s, to about 7% today, tbh?

It's not like baseball, where s just lost interest in the sport..White Americans still play at a star level in the NCAA, and there are still some decent guys in the league(Love, Re , etc)..why was there such a substantial dip in the numbers?

I think it's their lack of athleticism, a lot of these white american guys play fundamental basketball and it works at the collegiate level, but ultimately fails in the pros where it gets overruled by elite athleticism.

[Silver&Black]

You are literally the stupidest person on spurstalk.

Honestly Cry...I don't think he really believes that. He's just trying to .

[Cry Havoc]

Honestly Cry...I don't think he really believes that. He's just trying to .

Then he's stupid for wasting his life on pathetic attempts to troll. It's not even entertaining.

[pgardn]

I remember being 11-12 years old and hearing about Dominique Wilkins and his dunks..no YouTube back then, I bought burned DVDs of the dunk contests with Wilkins, Spud Webb and Jordan..one of the 10 most disappointing things I've ever watched, tbh

I was living in Toronto at the time, too, exacerbating the disappointment, as I used to watch Vince Carter do something superior to their best contest dunks virtually every single game

You don't remember anything quite honestly.

Dunk contest...
Watch the Fckn games.

[apalisoc_9]

Domnique dunks would net a 35 in todays dunk contest tbh..nothing wrong with that..they were great players who helped revolutionize the game but obviously they probably would be HS level.player only in todayd high skilled game.

[DAF86]

I'm full on board with the today's sportmen > earlier sportmen thing but Larry Bird isn't the best example to on ex-sportmen, tbh. He was a 6'9'' guy that could handle the rock, shoot, pass, rebound and defend. He would fit today's NBA pretty damn well. He's without a doubt an all-time talent. With Magic Johnson you might have had a better troll thread, imho.

[Silver&Black]

So Vince Carter was a better dunker than Nique.

Does that make him the better player? What's the end game here?

[apalisoc_9]

Another good player comparison is Bill Walton. He reminds of Ryan Kelly of the los angeles lakers

[pgardn]

Domnique dunks would net a 35 in todays dunk contest tbh..nothing wrong with that..they were great players who helped revolutionize the game but obviously they probably would be HS level.player only in todayd high skilled game.

Oh a 35...

Is Oprah judging with or without Miley Cirus?

[spurraider21]

So Vince Carter was a better dunker than Nique.

Does that make him the better player? What's the end game here?

jonathon simmons would on nique

[JMarkJohns]

So Vince Carter was a better dunker than Nique.

Does that make him the better player? What's the end game here?

I'd abandon all hope, ye who enter here for logic.

[HarlemHeat37]

So you agree with apa, that bird (and presumably 'nique) would be 15th men on their team?

I don't think it's fair to judge players from the past vs. present players, outside of what they did against their own compe ion during their playing days..things change to match to make comparisons of that nature, the playing field isn't even..I used to do it, but find it silly now..

Bill Russell shot under 44% like 6 times IIRC, for example

I can't really watch videos of most players from the past, though, it doesn't hold up well, at all IMO..it's like comedy, most of it ages poorly and is heavily based on the climate of it's time..