Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    MORE LIFE SOON COME 313's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    11,595
    It's always been a pretty important aspect of the game, so surely it was focused on by players/coaches in practices, even back in the early days. Imo, it's how lenient refs have become with calling carrying violations. Virtually every marginally good ball handler today carries the ball, but it's rarely called, and when I have seen it called, it's on someone who isn't known as a good ball handler. I obviously wasn't alive in the 50s, 60s, or 70s to see how it was called then but it seems like the only explanation.

  2. #2
    I will not be mishandled MI21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,884
    I think Boban has better ball handling skills than Bob Cousy, tbh

  3. #3
    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    24,488
    A 16 year old HS kid will be q superstar in yhe 60s

  4. #4
    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
    My Team
    Toronto Raptors
    Post Count
    17,769
    Back in the days, coaches frowned upon "ball stoppers" & the only way to play was to pass the ball or throw it to the big guy inside. You had guys like Pistol Pete/Earl Monroe in the 70s but it was the ABA-NBA merger & Isiah Thomas/Magic that popularized it in the early 80s. Even Jordan was handcuffed when he was in North Carolina & he looked like a totally different player during his rookie season in he NBA.

    Basically, the short answer is "old white coaches" held back the players.

  5. #5
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    90,829
    Kids didn't grow up playing basketball. The rule was dribble to run, but nothing was said about the need to run.

  6. #6
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    41,384
    define modern player and what decade it started shifting with the masses, cause the 90s was still bull basketball

    lol cant dribble with other hand
    cant shoot with other hand
    can only drive into lane direction of shooting hand

  7. #7
    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    10,608
    Necessity is the mother of invention.

  8. #8
    Executive Mitch's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    6,573
    define modern player and what decade it started shifting with the masses, cause the 90s was still bull basketball

    lol cant dribble with other hand
    cant shoot with other hand
    can only drive into lane direction of shooting hand
    Looks like you started going to your English classes.

  9. #9
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    29,455
    Back in the day players hardly guarded each other. It was all mid-range and you'd still see guys sag off them. No reason to learn even basic ball handling moves back then.

  10. #10
    MORE LIFE SOON COME 313's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    11,595
    Looks like you started going to your English classes.

  11. #11
    MORE LIFE SOON COME 313's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    11,595
    So it wasn't a necessity and wasn't focused on like I assumed? So how can you rank any great guard/wing from that era with the great perimeter players of today? They weren't as skilled on offense and didn't see the tough defense of today.
    Last edited by 313; 12-09-2015 at 08:01 PM.

  12. #12
    Veteran Maddog's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    2,057
    Back in the day players hardly guarded each other. It was all mid-range and you'd still see guys sag off them. No reason to learn even basic ball handling moves back then.
    This is definitely part of it.

    Also the rules on turning the ball over have relaxed. In the early 60s many of today's players would have been called for carrying the ball. You had to have your hand right over the ball and not from the side.

  13. #13
    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    10,747
    One on one ball handling may be better now adays, but passing and ball movement was definitely better back in the day. Coaches besides, Kerr and Pop do not teach this anymore. That is why both franchises are so successful. Ball movement, not as much one on one play.

  14. #14
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    It's always been a pretty important aspect of the game, so surely it was focused on by players/coaches in practices, even back in the early days. Imo, it's how lenient refs have become with calling carrying violations. Virtually every marginally good ball handler today carries the ball, but it's rarely called, and when I have seen it called, it's on someone who isn't known as a good ball handler. I obviously wasn't alive in the 50s, 60s, or 70s to see how it was called then but it seems like the only explanation.

    Ok...I see you're being serious which is rare these days so sit down and let me explain....


    First off we know that Tim Duncan ain't got no ing handles what-so-ever...so we can rule out him being the catalyst. The answer in short is MJ started it and Kobe refined it turned it into an art form...tricking the ball off your knee in traffic , freaking s every which way like MJ, breaking ankles and , splitting double and triple teams and doing all that smarty art fancy is courtesy of that Black Mamba ....

    Here' s a good example of Kobe freaking s every which way like MJ


  15. #15
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    101,216
    I think the reason is Eastern bloc training

  16. #16
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    74,105
    I blame twitter

  17. #17
    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
    My Team
    Toronto Raptors
    Post Count
    17,769
    Here' s a good example of Kobe freaking s every which way like MJ

    Italian Jordan copying Chinese-American Jordan against Euro-league scrubs


  18. #18
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    90,829
    So it wasn't a necessity and wasn't focused on like I assumed? So how can you rank any great guard/wing from that are with the great perimeter players of today. They weren't as skilled on offense and didn't see the tough defense of today.
    You have to rank players against their peers. The fantasy "what if MJ played against Lebron?" or "Russell vs Shaq" talk is just talk. It's basically a different game, but if you could send ANY sports team back in time that far they would probably stomp the out of any other sports team unless it's the modern day Lakers and any WNBA team from 5 years ago.

  19. #19
    I want my parcel DD's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    3,117
    This is actually an interesting question...I remember seeing old clips of Havlicek and others trying to dribble and it was embarrassing to watch tbh

  20. #20
    My Favorite Faded Fantasy The Gemini Method's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    10,168
    Coco nut butter lotion.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •