Star Wars: The Force Awakens

[djohn2oo8]

SPOILERS

or maybe star wars went full re /nostalgia and she is kylo's twin

Could be. Idk though, I'm interested to see where they take it.

[Proxy]

There were tons more problems to about before we give a about her using the force by the end of the movie

It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."

the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh

[DMX7]

At least there was no Jar Jar Binks 2.0

[DMX7]

There were tons more problems to about before we give a about her using the force by the end of the movie

It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."

the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh

It's sad when movies are made by committee. it was still good though. Better than the prequels (Ep I-III) but certainly not the original trilogy.

[Proxy]

It's sad when movies are made by committee. it was still good though. Better than the prequels (Ep I-III) but certainly not the original trilogy.

well.... to be fair, the prequels are some of the worst movies ever made

I'm sure the prequel quality was an ongoing anxiety, thus the overabundant, pandering allusions to the original trilogy.

[BD24]

Just saw it and was a bit dissapointed. The movie itself was good, but it resembled the Original Star Wars far to much. I mean it was almost the same damned plot.
I was hoping maybe JJ would take this in a new direction. Who knows though, maybe he will be a little more original with the next two. They have been set up fairly nicely.

[djohn2oo8]

Just saw it and was a bit dissapointed. The movie itself was good, but it resembled the Original Star Wars far to much. I mean it was almost the same damned plot.
I was hoping maybe JJ would take this in a new direction. Who knows though, maybe he will be a little more original with the next two. They have been set up fairly nicely.

They played it safe this first time around and it's going to probably make 2 billion. I think they will step it up the next two. Like they did with return of the Jedi and empire strikes back.

[BD24]

They played it safe this first time around and it's going to probably make 2 billion. I think they will step it up the next two. Like they did with return of the Jedi and empire strikes back.

I sure hope so, a few of the new characters were interesting though. As others mentioned there was also some really bad plot holes.

Anyone know if they have a planned release date for the next one yet?

[da_suns_fan]

There were tons more problems to about before we give a about her using the force by the end of the movie

It almost seemed like two directors spliced their movies together. There were too many contrasting things to not acknowledge the painfully obvious interjection of money interests over making a good, ambitious movie. I can just imagine some Disney wad saying, "hey we need more Han Solo. We need another Death Star. Pander to the audience. Introduce C3PO for no real goddamn reason. Lets purposefully put some bs filler alien scene for Han and Chewie's intro. Make sure to add expository dialogue and treat the audience like morons. Make it more cliche. That's what people pay money for."

the new characters were the best part of the movie tbh

Actually I think that was suppose to be this films version of the trash compactor scene. The tentacles of the aliens mimic the creature that sucked look into the water.

[chunticakes]

Spoilers...To those saying Kylo shouldn't have got his ass kicked, remember that he was not a Sith lord. He still needed to go through training. Plus he was attacked by chewie, and bleeding all over the place.

This.

We knew Rey could defend herself with a staff. Perhaps Kylo Ren had little to no lightsaber training from Luke (who himself had minimal lightsaber training in the original trilogy).

And as far as the whole force use is concerned, Rey is probably more force sensitive than Kylo Ren. Like someone stated, maybe the daughter of a Jedi or something.

These are feasible explanations but they dont feel satisfying. It doesn't change the fact that there are glaring plot holes the size of Hope Solo's vagina. It just seems like Rey was written as the typical "invincible strong woman" lead.

Anyways, anybody have any theories on Snoke? I read somewhere that he might be Plagueis.

[Kim Jong-il]

Yeah did everyone forget that Kylo Ren took a ing bowcaster shot TO THE STOMACH before fighting Rey? After we saw two scenes where the bowcaster ed up multiple ppl with one shot? and then multiple shots where it's obvious that Ren is seriously injured and in a lot of pain?

This would be like Jordan severely spraining his ankle and people ing that he didn't drop 50 on the Nets or some .

[lefty]

I liked it tbh


Dat opening shot

[Mr. Body]

People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a load of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the he is.

That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.

[djohn2oo8]

People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a load of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the he is.

That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.

Rey proved she could fight in the opening scene. It seems like she has had training before. Finn also had a form of training since he was a stormtrooper, so it's really not that far fetched. And AGAIN, Kylo was hurt badly before the fight. And had not completed his training, so it would make since that he could be vulnerable. People are overthinking things way too much.

[Mr. Body]

Rey proved she could fight in the opening scene. It seems like she has had training before. Finn also had a form of training since he was a stormtrooper, so it's really not that far fetched. And AGAIN, Kylo was hurt badly before the fight. And had not completed his training, so it would make since that he could be vulnerable. People are overthinking things way too much.

The original trilogy continually tells us that a lightsaber is not like any other weapon, it's both dangerous and really weak - Han dismisses it as hokey. I don't see why Kylo being hurt is that a big of deal. We've seen Jedi fight like badasses even when hurt or incapacitated. This is just Disney getting in there and saying we have to have a big lightsaber duel and since there's no other comparable character they have a sanitation worker pick it up and not immediately chop his own off. Face it, it's nonsense.

[I. Hustle]

SPOILERS

it's obvious that she is more powerful than Luke at this point where he was not yet a Jedi. It a desperate state to survive, it's not a stretch for her to use mind tricks. Could she be a child of two Jedis?

here's a theory I found
She had training, Luke Just blocked it from her mind when he dropped her off on the planet. when Kylo was trying to extract the Luke Map from her mind, her partially unblocked her training thus why she started to remember her training. That is why she was able to us the jedi mind trick on that trooper then hold her own against a injured Kylo.

It would kind of explain why she felt so strongly about staying on Jakku. Kept wanting to go back.

I don't think it's the case though.

[benefactor]

I enjoyed it. Story could have been better but it was nice to watch a Star Wars that actually felt like Star Wars.

[ColinB]

Fun movie. Enjoyed it a lot.

Glad I don't hate fun like a lot of nerds in here.

[lefty]

Agreed, very enjoyable movie

Sure there is a pattern in this movie (basically ANH with different characters) but the movie was still awesome

The cinematography was perfect, the acting was great, the LS fights were fantastic.


I did find Finn a bit too goofy though; he was like the human JarJarBing .... no racist tbh

As benefactor said, it felt like a SW movie

[Kim Jong-il]

We've seen Jedi fight like badasses even when hurt or incapacitated.

When?

[chunticakes]

People explaining away two non-trained newbies, one with no Force inherent, holding off Kylo have to be kidding. The whole series we know lightsabers take a load of training to get barely right and these jokers aren't cutting their own arms off? Why didn't he just force-freeze or force-choke both of them and stab them to bits like Han? I get that Kylo isn't actually that good - but, wait, it does, he can freeze a freaking blaster bolt in midair, talk to people, walk away after an hour, and it's still there - but the movie is saying Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi ever, should never have bothered training with Yoda, and any Sanitation-level stormtrooper can take on a powerful Sith Lord or whatever the he is.

That's only one of the increasingly ridiculous parts in an increasingly bad movie. Sorely disappointed, and I haven't been a Star Wars fan for years.

Ren was physically and emotionally wounded after the whole Han Solo/bowcaster scene. Therefore we can say he wasn't able to tap into the force as easily as say the opening scene.

Also Luke was never "one of the most powerful Jedi ever". If anything he's one of the weakest ever. Yoda himself said Luke was too old to train back in the original trilogy. Luke never trained as a Youngling much less a Padawan. He's a fringe Jedi at best.

So him training Ren really doesn't make Ren anything. I think down the line they're gonna reveal Rey to be Ren's more powerful sister.

Case in point Rey conveniently pulling that Jedi mind trick BS on a Stormtrooper. Now that I had a problem with. You'd figure that'd be some next level Jedi . Judging by that sample size, I'd say Rey would have to be the most powerful force user ever.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I knew I'd find lots of hate in here. I thought it was a entertaining and fun movie that stayed true to feel of the originals. Once the wife gets all caught up, I'm going to be seeing it in theaters again.

[bigzak25]

Eh, the black guy didn't die and solos son is a long haired . Other than that, it was not bad.

[Trill Clinton]

All those cry baby Sawm's took a collective sigh when they saw that Finn was nothing more than a galactic garbage man.

[DJR210]

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