Suns: Horny is in the death house...

[HemisfairArena]

And lets not talk about the Clips,,,you fire DelNegro after a 56-26season for Uncle Tom and whats that got ya?,,,,

[Clipper Nation]

Conehead fielded a team of professionals who couldn't rotate or help on defense, make basic passes to the post, or run simple pick-and-rolls - or any plays at all, really. Any coach in the world would get fired for those kinds of results.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Porter was better than Gentry,,,,your players were pampered gots that didn't want to play D,,I cant help it that you don't know basketball. Davis is hating Gentry right now. Gentry has been fired from every head coaching with a losing record,,,,he sucks,,,,you love him,,,,lmao

Amare had no problem playing D in 2010 under Gentry, it was his best defensive season. Amare had a problem with a coach who treated his players like children.

From day 1, Porter did nothing but try and say the opposite of what D'antoni would say but did nothing to actually coach. He literally said in one of his first press conferences, "I don't want our offense to score 100 points."

[Clipper Nation]

And lets not talk about the Clips,,,you fire DelNegro after a 56-26season for Uncle Tom and whats that got ya?,,,,

Vinny Del Dumb could barely speak English, let alone coach a basketball team. We just hired an equally ty replacement instead of upgrading.

[DMC]

And lets not talk about the Clips,,,you fire DelNegro after a 56-26season for Uncle Tom and whats that got ya?,,,,

Rivers isn't any better than Vinny. They didn't just hire a coach, they got two positions with one salary. Doc's problem is that he's too loyal to players so instead of selecting guys to fill roles he selects people he likes. The Clippers need guy who relies on his coaching staff and trainers more than he relies on his connections. Great coaches have great trainers and staff, or overwhelming talent. Doc has enough talent on that team to be a scary presence in the west but instead they are about on par with Houston.

[HemisfairArena]

Their defensive rating under Gentry was better than it was under Porter.

Regardless, it wasn't just Nash/Amare. The whole team hated him for so many reasons. The "he tried to make them play defense" narrative is oversimplified. He couldn't develop young players for and he did some of the most re ed stuff to try and "motivate" grown men (i.e., calling the team in early to play arts and crafts as a team building exercise).

There's no question Nash/Amare were pussies who handled the situation horribly but you never see players quit on good coaches. Good coaches find ways to motivate players to work hard and play defense, just look at what Gentry did with Amare the next year.

I get it,,,I'm not disputing he had a good year and he basically just puppeted D'Antoni's philosophy,,he isn't a good coach. I'm not saying Porter is any sort of world beater,,what I am saying is they are about even,,,which means neither should be a head coach.

[HemisfairArena]

Vinny Del Dumb could barely speak English, let alone coach a basketball team. We just hired an equally ty replacement instead of upgrading.

So there you go,,Suns fired Porter for another equally ty replacement in Gentry,,,

[DMC]

So there you go,,Suns fired Porter for another equally ty replacement in Gentry,,,

Gentry is a good coach. The most successful coach in NBA history can't get a winning record managing the Knicks in how many years? It's about your organization and your leaders on the floor.

[HemisfairArena]

Gentry is a good coach. The most successful coach in NBA history can't get a winning record managing the Knicks in how many years? It's about your organization and your leaders on the floor.

He's about to get fired from his 4th head coaching gig,,,that's not a good coach,,

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Better than Gentry,,,,

I get it,,,I'm not disputing he had a good year and he basically just puppeted D'Antoni's philosophy,,he isn't a good coach. I'm not saying Porter is any sort of world beater,,what I am saying is they are about even,,,which means neither should be a head coach.

now you're backpedaling. You said on the last page he was better than Gentry, now you're saying they're about even. Which one is it?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He's about to get fired from his 4th head coaching gig,,,that's not a good coach,,

now your argument is based off an event that hasn't even happened yet

[HemisfairArena]

now you're backpedaling. You said on the last page he was better than Gentry, now you're saying they're about even. Which one is it?

Not back peddling at all,,,he is better than Gentry,,,,but that's like saying Cowboys are better than the Browns,,in the end they both suck and lets get back to your ridiculous claim that Gentry is the best in the last 20 years,,,youre saying he's better than d'antoni?,,,,lmao

[HemisfairArena]

now your argument is based off an event that hasn't even happened yet

,,,,lmao,,,,no wonder you think Gentry is good,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Look, DownsK,,,,Gentry better not have bought property in New Orleans because his time is gonna be short there,,,,I cant help it if you cant see the forest for the trees,,,If the dude goes 30-52 with one of the best centers in the league, he's ed(and he inherited a team that was in the playoffs last year),,,,he may get one more year to turn it around but he doesn't have the coaching talent to do it,,,,simple as that. He will be fired from his 4th head coaching gig soon,,,,anyways,,,good night all see ya next week,,,,

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Not back peddling at all,,,he is better than Gentry,,,,but that's like saying Cowboys are better than the Browns,,in the end they both suck and lets get back to your ridiculous claim that Gentry is the best in the last 20 years,,,youre saying he's better than d'antoni?,,,,lmao

So then they're not "about equal" if he's better than Gentry. Him being better than Gentry would inherently mean they're not equal.

And yes, I think Gentry was better than D'antoni. D'antoni had significantly more talent to work with during his time as coach, he benefited from the 2005-2007 honeymoon period when the rest of the NBA was figuring out how to defend the SSOL offense, and still never got as close to a championship as Gentry did in 2010 when he didn't have a core of starters in their prime who could play 40 minutes a night.

When he was playing against other good teams/coaches, he either took too long to make an adjustment or never made it at all. In 2007 for example he needed to lose game 1 at home and forfeit HCA before giving Kurt Thomas significant minutes even though anyone with a room temperature IQ would know that the entire purpose of having Kurt Thomas was to defend Duncan.

Put D'antoni in a position that required having to make an unproven Goran Dragic, unproven Robin Lopez, Jared Dudley, Channing Frye and Lou Amundson rotation players who received consistent minutes, he would have gotten impatient and started playing Nash/Amare 42 minutes a night. Gentry is a flexible coach who runs whatever system fits his roster best. D'antoni is a stubborn guinea who'd rather lose running SSOL than win by running a traditional system.

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Not tonite, AJ. I can't face it.

Christ, I no sooner get rid of the Suns and here comes the in' Cardinals. me.

It'll never end.

[JMarkJohns]

Thread, I don't pay much attention to whatever agenda the Phoenix media is trying to push with the Suns these days, but is there any talk, at all, about Lon Babby's job being in jeopardy? In the 5+ years that fat has had complete control of basketball operations and hasn't even been able to milk one playoff birth out of the team, he's scapegoated Alvin Genry (the best Suns coach in the last 20+ years) + Lance Blanks (the GM he hand picked), and now he gets to scapegoat the head coach he hand picked? It's crazy how much Sarver has been able to destroy/mismanage this team.

This. All this. So. Much. This.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Look, DownsK,,,,Gentry better not have bought property in New Orleans because his time is gonna be short there,,,,I cant help it if you cant see the forest for the trees,,,If the dude goes 30-52 with one of the best centers in the league, he's ed(and he inherited a team that was in the playoffs last year),,,,he may get one more year to turn it around but he doesn't have the coaching talent to do it,,,,simple as that. He will be fired from his 4th head coaching gig soon,,,,anyways,,,good night all see ya next week,,,,

he might have extra year, but how much more will unibrow put up with another losing season b4 he demands a trade or some

[illmatic]

Do you remember that whole deal with Porter, DownsK?,,,Nash and Amare ran Porter out of town because he wanted them to play defense and work hard. They rebelled and the owner fired him with a winning record,,,,thats why the Suns are the Suns,,,,,

Porter was God AWFUL bro, I have no idea where you are coming at with this LMAO.

[Pelicans78]

Look, DownsK,,,,Gentry better not have bought property in New Orleans because his time is gonna be short there,,,,I cant help it if you cant see the forest for the trees,,,If the dude goes 30-52 with one of the best centers in the league, he's ed(and he inherited a team that was in the playoffs last year),,,,he may get one more year to turn it around but he doesn't have the coaching talent to do it,,,,simple as that. He will be fired from his 4th head coaching gig soon,,,,anyways,,,good night all see ya next week,,,,

It's not Gentry's fault that the GM has built a ty roster around AD with guys who have low basketball IQs and won't defend. Plus, they've had alot of injuries in the first two months of the season. I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs, but they won't be that bad by the end of the season. This roster won't be around AD much longer.

[Pelicans78]

Hemisfairarena has gone full re in this thread

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Do you remember that whole deal with Porter, DownsK?,,,Nash and Amare ran Porter out of town because he wanted them to play defense and work hard. They rebelled and the owner fired him with a winning record,,,,thats why the Suns are the Suns,,,,,

Hemi

That's precisely how it happened.

Porter was a no nonsense type and was not a favorite "Son." There were going to be no buddy-buddy interviews, light comedy, scratchin' Media's back & in return having your's scratched when necessa. They got him out of town immediately and things returned to normal.

[Thread]

Horny is safe. They fired his assistant coaches. And what a stupid in' time to threaten his expulsion. Three straight losses comin' up and they were going to saddle a new fellow with that start?

[Thread]

Updated 1 hour, 29 minutes ago.
Suns reportedly fire assistants Mike Longabardi and Jerry Sichting

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BY ARIZONA SPORTS | December 27, 2015 @ 10:52 pm

The Phoenix Suns fired assistant coaches Mike Longabardi and Jerry Sichting late Sunday night after meeting with assistant coaches and some players, reports both Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski and ESPN’s Marc Stein.
Stein reports the Suns have promoted first-year assistants Nate Bjorkgren and Earl Watson.
Head coach Jeff Hornacek’s status is unclear. According to several reports, the Suns began mulling his future on Sunday after the team fell to the now 2-30 Philadelphia 76ers on Saturday night.



[[[[[[[[[Wojnarowski reports that Hornacek was “adamantly against the dismissal of his staff.”]]]]]]]]]



Longabardi, the team’s defensive specialist, presumably fell out of favor as the Suns became the worst field goal defense in the NBA, allowing opponents to shoot 46.8 percent from the floor. Sichting and Longabardi were both initial hires for Hornacek’s coaching staff at the beginning of his tenure for the 2013-14 season.
Bjorkgren joined the Suns’ staff this season after spending last year as the head coach for the Suns’ D-League affiliate, the Bakersfield Jam. This is his first NBA coaching job.
Likewise, Watson joined the team after retiring as a player following the 2013-14 season and coaching as an assistant with the D-League’s Austin Spurs last season.

[Thread]

Thread, I don't pay much attention to whatever agenda the Phoenix media is trying to push with the Suns these days, but is there any talk, at all, about Lon Babby's job being in jeopardy? In the 5+ years that fat has had complete control of basketball operations and hasn't even been able to milk one playoff birth out of the team, he's scapegoated Alvin Genry (the best Suns coach in the last 20+ years) + Lance Blanks (the GM he hand picked), and now he gets to scapegoat the head coach he hand picked? It's crazy how much Sarver has been able to destroy/mismanage this team.

He was publicly downgraded (he would no longer be the face of the front office) at the end of last season, but, it was done inau iously. During this current crisis he has not been mentioned whatsoever.