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    Griffin is a defender. Sorry to say. Like his game but he's a lost little boy on D.
    I agree actually, Griffin has become a lot better on defense
    damn, he's come a long way in the past few hours tbh

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    With all the winshares and other metrics Rockets fans likes to bring up, it was George who stepped up and played better in the playoffs, that includes win shares, EFG%, TS% and PER.


    As an unbiased observer, I'd take George in a heartbeat. I know Curry gets a lot of flak here, but I'd also take him over Harden.
    Curry is going to make a run at the best PG in the league and a top 5 player this season. He might be the best shooter I've ever seen. Dude is going to be scary.

    True, Blake seems to grate on everyone’s nerves so they take a shot at him every chance they get. Defensvely, he tries hard, which is a step in the right direction. Bigger guys can still give him issues and like you said, genetics have ensured he will never be a scary rim protector who deters drivers


    He has improved and his quickness and mobility is essential in Doc's strongside overload scheme. He'll only get better.
    I personally really enjoy watching Blake play. I don't strongly dislike him. Just don't think he's a defensive asset at this point. Still gets lost in rotation and doesn't impact the game on that side.

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    damn, he's come a long way in the past few hours tbh
    If you start as one of the worst defenders in the league, you can come a long way and be a defender still.

    My language was a bit overboard though. He's below average but could easily become "decent" this season with some more work.

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    With all the winshares and other metrics Rockets fans likes to bring up, it was George who stepped up and played better in the playoffs, that includes win shares, EFG%, TS% and PER.


    As an unbiased observer, I'd take George in a heartbeat. I know Curry gets a lot of flak here, but I'd also take him over Harden.
    Stick Indiana in the West and what seed are they?

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    Curry is going to make a run at the best PG in the league and a top 5 player this season. He might be the best shooter I've ever seen. Dude is going to be scary.
    Yeah. when he's on. He's virtually unstoppable. I put him right next to Durant, offensively.

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    Stick Indiana in the West and what seed are they?
    Even if they seed lower, which is a "team effort" to begin with, It doesn't change the fact that George was better than Harden in the playoffs. *Shrugs*

    Just to be clear, I do believe Harden is a better offensive player but If I have to pick between the two, I like George and his overall versatility on both ends of the floor.

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    Parker, Manu, Duncan, Diaw, Leonard, Mills, Daye.

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    Blake Griffin's defensive rating = 103.3
    Tony Allen's defensive rating = 103.1

    det 0.2 difference

    Anthony Davis = 104.3
    LOL Defensive rating ...

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    He's just another monta ellis, kevin martin, or David Lee stat padder on ty team.

    Lebron
    Kd
    Paul
    Howard
    Curry
    Westbrook
    Griffin
    Aldridge
    Melo
    Parker

    That's 10 players I'd rather have leading my team over love, in no order
    Howard, Parker, Melo, Aldridge, Westbrook, Curry?,,,,,LMAO,,,and you don't even have Anthony Davis on your list,,,

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    Love over westbrook and George over Griffin are funnier

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    He's barely top10 on the Cavs let alone top10 in the league.

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    Not your finest thread Hemi.


    Also, A lot of members threw at the wall that didn't stick.

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    Nice bounce back game by Love last night since we are trashing him still not a max player ...which I argued to death when there was talk he would sign in L.A.

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    I hope I didn't post in this thread.

    Anyway, if you switched Love with Draymond Green the Cavaliers might never lose a game.

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    This thread

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    I hope I didn't post in this thread.

    Anyway, if you switched Love with Draymond Green the Cavaliers might never lose a game.
    No. Draymond Green, thrives in a switching moving type of offense, and the Cavs are not running that. Green is a versatile, mobile big with guard skills, like a billionaire version of Diaw, and I can't see him fitting into a Lebron-ball system.

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    I hope I didn't post in this thread.

    Anyway, if you switched Love with Draymond Green the Cavaliers might never lose a game.
    Green is a product of Curry.

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    No. Draymond Green, thrives in a switching moving type of offense, and the Cavs are not running that. Green is a versatile, mobile big with guard skills, like a billionaire version of Diaw, and I can't see him fitting into a Lebron-ball system.
    Agree with Amb. Also taking away most of Green's play-making to have Lebron or Kyrie run the offense takes away a lot of the value Green brings. Sure you would get his defense but Green is not a spot up shooter and would not thrive in that role. Green is a play-making stretch 4 who can hit 3's but his value is as the trap release when teams double steph.

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    Green is a product of Curry.
    Not totally. he does benefit from the attention that he draws but Green is more important to their team than Klay. he murders teams when he plays pnr with steph or if they trap Curry. his ability to hit 3's the mid range and pass high low is a thing of beauty.

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    Crofl putting George in the top 10. Are you stoned?
    Harden

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    George gets overrated like crazy just because he played next to Lance Stephenson.

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    No. Draymond Green, thrives in a switching moving type of offense, and the Cavs are not running that. Green is a versatile, mobile big with guard skills, like a billionaire version of Diaw, and I can't see him fitting into a Lebron-ball system.
    Which is unfortunate because I think LeBron and Kyrie- especially Kyrie- would thrive in that type of offense.

    Ideally LeBron would do for the Cavaliers what Draymond does for Golden State but he has no interest in being that kind of player.

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    Green is a product of Curry.
    not just him, but the whole team. he's a system player.

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