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    He started the season looking like another premier find by RC Buford. Then he started to get dunked on, especially by other eastern european players ironically. Now he should be allowed the time to go back to the drawing board and adjust. Could be that his early success made him too big for his britches and thought it was going to be easier than it really was. Could be watching tape of him exposed his weakness. Im going to wait to see if he readjusts before I make up my mind. If I had to I would say his offense is going to be there but his defense may only be good in certain situations as in centers who only play down low.

    Marjanovic doesn't seem to be the type that gets a big head. None on the team do.

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    He's definitely a keeper, unless somebody overpays for him.

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    That Marjanovic and Gasol are the same athletically or the same anything. They're just not.

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    So with Kyle for SAgirl it has been "he just needs more time" . Halfway through the season though she wants to question if Boban is really a keeper. Maybe we wait until he at least gets a full season under his belt to make stupid threads like this.

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    nice strawman.

    He'been asked to switch on pnr and had issues. I already addressed this simpleton. Do you need me to quote it or do you think you can figure it out on your own?
    He has tried to play pnr switching and without switching..... He is ty at both. Also , he can't guard bigs with quickness or ability to stretch the floor.


    but hey..... If we play Roy Hibbert 82 games a year we might really have something .

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    That Marjanovic and Gasol are the same athletically or the same anything. They're just not.
    I said similar. I'm not saying skilled. Gasol looks high repped while Boban looks lost.

    I think Gasol is a little quicker while Marjanovic runs better and is bigger/stronger. I'm interested to see what Boban looks like when he looks high repped.

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    He has tried to play pnr switching and without switching..... He is ty at both. Also , he can't guard bigs with quickness or ability to stretch the floor.


    but hey..... If we play Roy Hibbert 82 games a year we might really have something .
    He has yet to play it as ICE. Pop has been switching everything mindlessly outside of 2 quarters of zone for most of the year.

    Obviously, he is a situational player and has a lot to prove before he can play small ball 5 but there is still a place in the league for players like that. He only has to be better than bench bigs to merit a place in the league.

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    He has yet to play it as ICE. Pop has been switching everything mindlessly outside of 2 quarters of zone for most of the year.

    Obviously, he is a situational player and has a lot to prove before he can play small ball 5 but there is still a place in the league for players like that. He only has to be better than bench bigs to merit a place in the league.

    I think if you read through my post I essentially said he is a situational big and belongs in the NBA as such. Glad we are in agreement .

    Once again, not the type of guy we would want to rely on as your 2nd center though.

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    So with Kyle for SAgirl it has been "he just needs more time" . Halfway through the season though she wants to question if Boban is really a keeper. Maybe we wait until he at least gets a full season under his belt to make stupid threads like this.
    You want to sideline this discussion when plenty has been discussed about KA. I am talking about Boban.
    If you must go there, KA has played real minutes in close/contested games. He's 22 and in a cheap contract.
    Boban has not played many real minutes at all in close/contested games, and there is a reason. When he's played lately he's seemed inadequate for fast paced teams or teams that are perimeter oriented. He's 27 and in a 1 year contract. You have to decide how much development improvement he will make when he's 28 and on, and how much to pay him. He took the 1 year contract bc he wants to get paid. He would have made more in Europe is my understanding anyways. He's not that young and may have a limited shelf life... so if I am his agent, he needs to cash in on his boon pronto.

    it is a legit question on its own. (KA and Simmons are in different contracts and development paths obviously)

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    I think if you read through my post I essentially said he is a situational big and belongs in the NBA as such. Glad we are in agreement .

    Once again, not the type of guy we would want to rely on as your 2nd center though.
    You're saying that is his ceiling. I am saying he is already there. Nuance is tough.

    You cannot ever address when I talk about how the game is actually played even still. This is boring. Ciao.

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    I said similar. I'm not saying skilled. Gasol looks high repped while Boban looks lost.

    I think Gasol is a little quicker while Marjanovic runs better and is bigger/stronger. I'm interested to see what Boban looks like when he looks high repped.
    They are not similar in any fashion whatsoever except that they both played in Europe, play Center in the NBA and shoot a decent FT%. Although Boban is 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier than Marc Gasol, the Spanish center is clearly stronger, more athletic and much more mobile. He also has better court awareness. How many times have you seen someone just smack or grab the ball out of Gasol's hands?

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    You're saying that is his ceiling. I am saying he is already there. Nuance is tough.

    You cannot ever address when I talk about how the game is actually played even still. This is boring. Ciao.

    Being a player fan of a 11th man . ty takes don't warrant thoughtful responses . Also, how defensive you get of your bad takes on a message board..... Also sad.

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    They are not similar in any fashion whatsoever except that they both played in Europe, play Center in the NBA and shoot a decent FT%. Although Boban is 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier than Marc Gasol, the Spanish center is clearly stronger, more athletic and much more mobile. He also has better court awareness. How many times have you seen someone just smack or grab the ball out of Gasol's hands?

    Boban might be physically stronger but obviously doesn't play with the strength gasol does. Otherwise spot on . This will all change with reps though

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    They are not similar in any fashion whatsoever except that they both played in Europe, play Center in the NBA and shoot a decent FT%. Although Boban is 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier than Marc Gasol, the Spanish center is clearly stronger, more athletic and much more mobile. He also has better court awareness. How many times have you seen someone just smack or grab the ball out of Gasol's hands?
    All that and your only empirical comment is about his hands. That is hand eye coordination and Boban adjusting to a new technique. Watch him rebound before reaching to the hoop as opposed to how he tries to tip the ball to himself now.

    Boban outweighs him by 25 lbs only has 6% body fat and youre certain he's stronger? Note my sig.

    I personally find it difficult to tell how quick Boban is because he is not comfortable in his technique yet. They keep on trying him in new sets like horns and he looks lost. His rotations are hesitant particularly when its time to help the helper and the like.

    I have no doubt that he runs similarly as again he beats smaller guys down the court on the regular. Then of course there is his stamina which is surprising for a man his size. I just remember Baynes never being able to play for long stretches at a time.

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    Boban is a decent bench big and currently cheap so yeah keep him as long as the price is right. Spurs need a good rim protector to pair with Aldridge in the starting lineup after Duncan retires though. Boban cannot start next to Aldridge.

    I'll turn back the debate to Anderson. Dude still doesn't look like an NBA player to me. He's kind of a jack of all trades, master of no skills good enough for the NBA.

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    He plays like a rookie. Imagine that.

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    he needs lots of work, lots more smarts and aggression. gonna need a lot of work this summer

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    Boban tonight with a -7. He was with the best defensive guys, Kawhi, Simmons, Aldridge. He played with energy, was running up and down, and got on the boards. Definitely a better game than the Dallas one, however, everyone else had to cover up for him a lot, and there were still shots right at the rim despite his presence... in 9 minutes of play a -7.

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    He plays like a rookie. Imagine that.
    Problem is that for some reason people thought he would be as polished as Sabonis was when he came into the league.

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    Boban is going through what pretty much all rookie big men in the NBA go through. It's an adjustment. Go back and look at someone like Marcin Gortat's first year or two in the NBA. Better still, go back and look at all the people here who screamed about how bad Splitter was in his first year or two. Now a bunch of people cry about trading him. The low blocks are a ing war zone in the NBA. Boban was a damned solid player in Europe, just like Splitter was. And he'll adjust, just like Splitter did.

    He's huge, and clogs the lane more than nearly anyone I've ever seen. He runs the floor pretty damn good, for his size. He has pretty quick hands, unlike a lot of lumbering giants (which he's not). He's smart, and he's always paying attention to try and learn. And he can shoot the ball.

    ... why wouldn't that be a keeper?

    The ONLY two concerns I have is that he might wind up getting too much money for his current state of development. And I don't understand how someone can play as long as he has, and seemingly not have any understanding of the PnR. He'll learn the PnR. Hopefully he'll have realistic money expectations. I think he likes it here.
    Splitter blows

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    Problem is that for some reason people thought he would be as polished as Sabonis was when he came into the league.
    The complexities of the Spurs system, and his missed TC time and its really clear that Boban isnt nearly as comfortable as he should be. Yes he definitely has limitations, but his timing, reaction speed, and comfort will all improve with reps and experience. Im confident Boban will improve beyond what he is right now. To believe anything else is just silly.

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    Problem is that for some reason people thought he would be as polished as Sabonis was when he came into the league.
    Gotta love a strawman

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    Gotta love a strawman
    No, some here actually made that very comparison.

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    No, some here actually made those very comparisons.
    That's still a strawman. It's not those people who are critical of him now.

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    That's still a strawman. It's not those people who are critical of him now.
    How do you know that exactly?

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