I'm pretty sure KMart can drop 5 points RIGHT NOW in an NBA Finals game
So the Klay comparison is pretty spot on tbh imho
Cool to see, thanks. Didn't realize his shooting form was so unorthodox. Whatever works though.
Has real issues with shooting spots. Chinook's points were actually on point concerning that. I looked at his shooting charts.. by far prefers the left side of the court.
I am not thrilled about him. Anderson should kick his behind in practice IMO.
His honeymoon could be over soon in ATL..Could end up like your typical COY who gets fired a year or so after..
He is the Pop of ATL.
First of all, let me just say that I think this could be an important addition, especially with Martin's ability to stretch the floor and make 3s as 3 pt shooting has probably been our biggest weakness this season, and a reason for our very low 3pt attempts (6th least attempts in the league, although we do shoot them at an absolutely excellent %). We simply don't have enough great shooters as we did in the past. To beat the Warriors, you need floor spacing and shot making, as it might be impossible to stop them and Steph Curry consistently in a 7-game series. This is why I think we must sign Martin if he's willing to join. Historically and even last season, he has proven to be a reliable scorer and 3pt shooter, so in that sense I think he can be even better version of Belinelli offensively. Defense is another matter.. He is still 33 years old, so his age is not much of an issue here and I feel he can contribute on the offensive end immediately, similarly to what he did with OKC averaging 14.0 ppg while shooting a career best 42.6% from 3. I see no reason he can't be an excellent spot up 3pt shooter as he was in OKC.
Now to get to my main point: If Kevin Martin decides to join the Spurs, I am starting to lean towards the idea that the Spurs would decide to waive Simmons to make room.
Simply put, experience matters to Pop, and this team is fighting for a championship and is in win now mode. Surely, Simmons won't be getting any significant minutes in the stretch run or playoffs, while Kyle Anderson has seemingly cemented a role ahead of Simmons I believe. Also, and unfortunately, Pop is not the type to waive a professional like Bonner who has been with the team for 10 years now. I just can't see it happening, although as a fan I would say he's the easiest choice. I also think Rasual's experience, ability to stretch the floor and play defense would also give him the edge over the inexperienced Simmons. Finally, if Pop was thinking to waive either Bonner or Butler, I think he would have probably wanted to do that prior to the deadline to be waived in order to be playoff eligible on another team, especially in the case of Butler. I can't assume any team would want Bonner at this point.
In the end, my head says they should just waive Bonner as he won't be playing for us anyway, but my gut says Pop will waive Simmons which would be sad.
IT'S HAPPENING! !!!
Spurs sign Kevin Martin. To make room on their roster, they waive Andre Miller.
If you said at the beginning of the year we would trade Splitter, Beli, Jospeph, Baynes, and a second round pick FOR; LMA, West, Miller, Martin - I say it is a win.
All the BS aside did we sign him and who did we cut?
Pop will need to bite the bullet and waive a player who hasn't played and is injury prone over one like Simmons who has played and is still developing. Bonner is in the team for coaching and he's been doing a great job, but Spurs need quick players to play small ball.
hmmm..... interesting option!!!Spurs sign Kevin Martin. To make room on their roster, they waive Andre Miller.
Not yet. He still has to clear waivers. But the time-sensitive step (buyout paperwork) was submitted in time. There's no real deadline to sign him.
You don't clear waivers on a buyout. He's a free agent and can sign with whoever he wants.
They haven't signed him. He will have to clear waivers first before anybody will sign him or they assume his current contract.
edit: what benefactor said - he was bought out so he can sign with anybody.
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A real preference for the left side of the court:
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/pl.../kevin-martin/
I'm fine with bringing him in and playing him to see if he should get those minutes. He could obviously prove me wrong. But right now, I think Anderson and Butler do more than him, and if he wanted to come over only if he was essentially guaranteed minutes, I wouldn't be in favor. But he'd obviously play a lot over the next two months, and even if Manu comes back, guys like Leonard and Green haven't had much (or any in Green's case) time off. That would settle this argument more than analytics or stats would.
You actually do. Don't you remember the Corey Brewer buyout and subsequent thread a few years ago? He supposedly wanted to pick the Spurs, but Cuban threatened to claim him if he didn't agree to a new deal with them. I dunno if anyone has cap space right now, but they could totally be s and pick him up if they do.
How does that work? I thought on a buyout the last contract was dissolved.
Nah. You simply alter the amount of guaranteed money left on the deal in order to get your release. For Joe Johnson, he gave up three million. That just meant that his guaranteed money dropped from whatever it was (say $8 Million) to whatever it was minus three million (so $5 Million). However, if the player gets claimed, the guaranteed money returns to the previous amount, so it's not like Miller could have been claimed by a random team and still waived on the same buyout.
It's not something you see happen too often since it's poor form to claim buyout guys. But it's possible.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67
Sometimes players and teams decide to divorce each other. They do this by mutually agreeing that:
- The team will waive the player
- If the player clears waivers, the player's guaranteed salary will be reduced or eliminated (see question number 64)
- In contracts signed or extended under the previous CBA, the payment schedule for the remaining salary may be shortened or lengthened (see question number 65)
- Optionally the team's set-off rights (see question number 66) may be waived
After the player clears waivers, he and his former team are free to go their separate ways. There is a quid-pro-quo between the player and team regarding contractual obligation and salary -- in exchange for gaining his freedom, the player agrees to give the team a break on the remaining salary he is owed.
Ahh...ok. I guess since you never see buyout guys get claimed I automatically assumed they became free agents after the buyout. Us old dogs even learn something new from time to time.
I agree 100%. Let's hope this is the scenario if Martin agrees to join.
I don't think any playoff team has the money to claim him, and only a few teams would even have the interest to sign him up once he clears waivers. I wouldn't be surprised if he made a decision by today or tomorrow, he's probably been thinking about this for a few days of course. He should be interested to join a new team ASAP to give himself time to acclimate. Remember also in the case of Andre Miller, it was announced he would join the Spurs even before he cleared waivers.
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