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    lance better hope there aint no god.

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    I don't understand this argument at all from people who believe in a god and an afterlife. It completely presupposes there is (1) an afterlife and I guess (2) a soul. If there is no afterlife and no soul I don't get how anything is supposed to be revealed to me. If I'm dead so is my brain, I mean I can't run a computer without plugging in the power, how does a brain run without a working heart? It's like saying I can have a conversation with a corpse. You didn't address my objection at all in the locked Kawhi thread, Cowboys_Wear_Spurs, you just claimed it as truth, which is exactly what I was asserting you were saying from the beginning: that you are presupposing an afterlife. That's a really big thing to take as axiom.

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    Under what system of justice does asking a question about circular logic makes me a bigger jerk than a child rapist?
    What logic? There is no logic with any of this...God/Heaven...talk. It's all about emotions.

    My situation was the classic young kid totally ignorant to a world he knew nothing about.

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    I don't go looking for it, but I have noticed in my life experiences and I've known/know a lot of people, the atheists are the biggest jerks and punks. And the most mentally weak.

    This place a perfect example.
    "most mentally weak"

    This from someone who pretty much surrendered his own thread on an intellectual topic, and when pressed to defend his own assertions, merely copied and pasted an argument he all but admitted was stupid, rather than spend any time learning about a scientific theory he was criticizing.

    Would you say someone who doesn't want to improve his understanding would fall under the definition of "mentally weak"?

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    What logic? There is no logic with any of this...God/Heaven...talk. It's all about emotions.

    My situation was the classic young kid totally ignorant to a world he knew nothing about.
    Not really.

    There are observable truths about the universe not subject to emotions.

    I might be mad about, say, gravity, when I drop something on my foot. That doesn't change the underlying truth of gravitational acceleration.

    Thinking otherwise is mentally weak.

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    "most mentally weak"

    This from someone who pretty much surrendered his own thread on an intellectual topic, and when pressed to defend his own assertions, merely copied and pasted an argument he all but admitted was stupid, rather than spend any time learning about a scientific theory he was criticizing.

    Would you say someone who doesn't want to improve his understanding would fall under the definition of "mentally weak"?
    We all get this evolution theory situation, it's been talked about from our HS days. We aren't going to be learning anything new. My stance is it's all bull ....ok? And I made that very clear, the mentally weak simply go with what they are told, like you.

    Now, don't turn this thread into your sermon, ok?

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    Not really.

    There are observable truths about the universe not subject to emotions.

    I might be mad about, say, gravity, when I drop something on my foot. That doesn't change the underlying truth of gravitational acceleration.

    Thinking otherwise is mentally weak.
    Who was talking about the universe? I was talking about GOD/heaven.....as I said.

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    I don't go looking for it, but I have noticed in my life experiences and I've known/know a lot of people, the atheists are the biggest jerks and punks. And the most mentally weak.

    This place a perfect example.
    Lol mentally weak.

    You don't even comprehend what the op was about

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    I watched one of my grandpas die. It's a very sad situation. It was..."he only has a little while left"....as he simply faded away, getting weaker day to day. What kept grandma going was her faith in God, it was always.."I'll be ok, he is going to a better place, I'll be with him again".....she really believed that. Now none of us her family would want some atheist..."oh yeah, well can ya prove it, huh huh huh"......what is wrong with these people?

    Now when that atheist old man is dying and his atheist old wife are going through that....hmmmm?

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    Lol mentally weak.

    You don't even comprehend what the op was about
    I guaranteeed it and here ya are.....again~~~~~~~ Yep, owned!

    Do you really believe this is some complex topic, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT...here ya are AGAIN all worried about a poster....why?

    Blake, stick to the topic of a thread, ok?

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    We all get this evolution theory situation, it's been talked about from our HS days. We aren't going to be learning anything new. My stance is it's all bull ....ok? And I made that very clear, the mentally weak simply go with what they are told, like you.

    Now, don't turn this thread into your sermon, ok?
    My stance is you don't understand the theory. I go where the evidence leads.

    You think you understand it, and in so doing become a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Would you say you understand the theory and the evidence better than average?

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    Who was talking about the universe? I was talking about GOD/heaven.....as I said.
    The universe would include such things, were they to exist.

    People make all sorts of claims about both that are directly testable. That allows us to set aside emotion and think critically.

    All of those assertions fail.

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    I watched one of my grandpas die. It's a very sad situation. It was..."he only has a little while left"....as he simply faded away, getting weaker day to day. What kept grandma going was her faith in God, it was always.."I'll be ok, he is going to a better place, I'll be with him again".....she really believed that. Now none of us her family would want some atheist..."oh yeah, well can ya prove it, huh huh huh"......what is wrong with these people?

    Now when that atheist old man is dying and his atheist old wife are going through that....hmmmm?
    lol as if the only way to handle that situation is by making up fairy tales

    how dumb can ya be little man? sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    I watched one of my grandpas die. It's a very sad situation. It was..."he only has a little while left"....as he simply faded away, getting weaker day to day. What kept grandma going was her faith in God, it was always.."I'll be ok, he is going to a better place, I'll be with him again".....she really believed that. Now none of us her family would want some atheist..."oh yeah, well can ya prove it, huh huh huh"......what is wrong with these people?

    Now when that atheist old man is dying and his atheist old wife are going through that....hmmmm?
    Thinking about going to a happy place is comforting to some, who don't really think about the repercussions of eternity, which becomes meaningless upon examination.

    What good is the afterlife without the after-afterlife?

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    My stance is you don't understand the theory. I go where the evidence leads.

    You think you understand it, and in so doing become a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Would you say you understand the theory and the evidence better than average?
    Why do you think...

    Evolution (or the theory of evolution by natural selection) is a scientific theory which states that all living beings in the world are related and are sprung from a common ancestor.

    ....is so hard to figure out?

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    I guaranteeed it and here ya are.....again~~~~~~~ Yep, owned!

    Do you really believe this is some complex topic, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT...here ya are AGAIN all worried about a poster....why?

    Blake, stick to the topic of a thread, ok?
    I've referred you twice now to the op and you are still here just wasting time replying to me.

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    The universe would include such things, were they to exist.

    People make all sorts of claims about both that are directly testable. That allows us to set aside emotion and think critically.

    All of those assertions fail.
    Nope~~~

    There is nothing logical about believing in your God ot a Heaven, this isn't about logic. Compareit to why you love something, yep...emotions....ok?

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    Example:

    Avante believes he understands the theory of evolution better than average.

    When tested on his understanding, cannot demonstrate more than the most basic concepts and often presents arguments that are provable distortions of facts and the theory he is discussing.

    Avante then, would fall into the lower quartile category, i.e. those who deceive themselves the most about their own ability, and who are so ignorant of what true expertise on a subject is, fail to recognize such in others, and most especially, the lack of their own ability.

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    I watched one of my grandpas die. It's a very sad situation. It was..."he only has a little while left"....as he simply faded away, getting weaker day to day. What kept grandma going was her faith in God, it was always.."I'll be ok, he is going to a better place, I'll be with him again".....she really believed that. Now none of us her family would want some atheist..."oh yeah, well can ya prove it, huh huh huh"......what is wrong with these people?

    Now when that atheist old man is dying and his atheist old wife are going through that....hmmmm?
    The mentally weak need to make things up for comfort.

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    I've referred you twice now to the op and you are still here just wasting time replying to me.
    Ok Blake, since you are one HUGE waste of all our time I'll toss you a bone in...ah....Sept. Until then...see ya~~~~

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    Mentally weak old wasting time crapping up a perfectly good fishing thread.

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    Nope~~~

    There is nothing logical about believing in your God [or] a Heaven, this isn't about logic. Compare it to why you love something, yep...emotions....ok?
    Love, is, however, real and provable.

    You are correct though, unprovable assertions, or believing something is true when it isn't... is not logical.

    Such things aren't reasonable.

    That much we can agree on.

    The problem though, is that many who think such things are real make all sorts of claims about it, and demand others believe in it. You don't do any demanding, to your credit, but you give far too much leeway/credence to those who would.

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    Example:

    Avante believes he understands the theory of evolution better than average.

    When tested on his understanding, cannot demonstrate more than the most basic concepts and often presents arguments that are provable distortions of facts and the theory he is discussing.

    Avante then, would fall into the lower quartile category, i.e. those who deceive themselves the most about their own ability, and who are so ignorant of what true expertise on a subject is, fail to recognize such in others, and most especially, the lack of their own ability.
    Where did you ever get this weird idea the theory of evolution is some complex ordeal? That amazes me.

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    Love, is, however, real and provable.

    You are correct though, unprovable assertions, or believing something is true when it isn't... is not logical.

    Such things aren't reasonable.

    That much we can agree on.

    The problem though, is that many who think such things are real make all sorts of claims about it, and demand others believe in it. You don't do any demanding, to your credit, but you give far too much leeway/credence to those who would.
    You're weird little guy.

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    Why do you think...

    Evolution (or the theory of evolution by natural selection) is a scientific theory which states that all living beings in the world are related and are sprung from a common ancestor.

    ....is so hard to figure out?
    Ok then, what would you expect to find in terms of evidence were this theory to be true?

    This is where repeating a definition ends, and understanding begins.

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