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Yeah, it will be sad to see Bonner go.
The way he says "definitely" seems like he's been talking to Tony too.
David West working as mentor to Simms..I have been saying, ring or not, Pop might opt to keep West (over Boban ) in off season just for his leadership attributes..And that might be more urgent if Timmy/Manu vacate our locker room..Kawhi/LMA aren't there yet in that department and Tony is not exactly that distinguished....
Yeah, it will be sad to see Bonner go.
Sorry Jon-boy
Well, hope to seem some highlight reels in D-league.
Not surprising. He really needs to play to keep that conditioning and stamina up in case he's needed and he needs to work on his ballhandling and shooting. He wasn't going to get better in the bench and its clear that once K.Martin was signed he was going to be the 14th man in the roster and always in coat behind the bench, not even playing garbage time.
It's clear he was retained for next season. Keep Pounding on that Rock Johnny! Hopefully this time serves him well.
Simmons with a poor showing at Austin last night http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160317/rgvaus/
4-13 shooting, 1-4 from 3, 2 assists, 6 TOin 32 minutes. He had 2 of his shots blocked, but shot 6-8 on FT. 15 points, 5 fouls!
He was apparently assigned to the SF spot, but I didn't watch the game and positions can change through the game. I was going to watch some of it but considering he played so poorly and the lost, I will pass.
They play again tonight.
Sigh... needs to work on his skills.Simmons with a poor showing at Austin last night http://dleague.nba.com/games/20160317/rgvaus/
4-13 shooting, 1-4 from 3, 2 assists, 6 TO
He was apparently assigned to the SF spot, but I didn't watch the game and positions can change through the game. I was going to watch some of it but considering he played so poorly and the lost, I will pass.
They play again tonight.
Man, that article around the all-star weekend about him making it seems really premature right about now. He's probably dangerously close to being cut. If we needed another roster spot right now, I think he'd be cut.
What turned me off was an article I read about his view towards defense. He wasn't playing great defense at all, but he was acting like he was a good defender and saying that great defense is all about effort. He has no clue what great defense is all about if he thinks it's just about effort and nothing else. He's also far from a great defender at the NBA level. Might be OK in the D-League, but not in the NBA. He has a lot to learn.
You are not far off since his second year is not guaranteed I believe. I am not sure when his second yr option must be picked up, but he might have to make the team again like Reggie Williams.
He really must show improvement to stick around at this point, but I think they are giving him this chance bc Pop has a possible role in mind for him playing next to Slowmo in the bench next season. He needs to clean up his game from the mistakes though.
Like you, I soured a little on him a little bc despite his effort level always being dialed up to 120%, he seemed clueless often.
He cleaned up his game the past couple of games he had in the NBA, b4 Rasual was cut. He wasn't impactful but I think Pop preferred to see him play a more solid mistake free game even if he didn't score, so he played it safe and under control. I really believe that if he had shown up those last couple of games with the same TO and wild play, fouling and getting faked out of plays etc., he would have been cut instead of Rasual, so I also agree with you that he was this close ---->_<----.
This is how most fans think defense is about. It's not just effort, you have to understand defensive schemes and gauge how to position yourself on the court. Players like Harden, just ball watch in addition to giving no effort. You're right about Simmons' view on defense, it's more than just intensity and effort. He is a decent defender and has a lot of room to improve. Oh and Rule #1, never trash talk the opposing team's star player i.e. Curry.
He looked so promising for a while there. Now he's falling off. Hope he can get back on track again.
Honestly, this demotion back into D-league is hurting his confidence.
If he can't handle this, he'll never be a Spur. He needs to man up, and do what Kyle did last year when he got sent down: DOMINATE.
Kyle's d-league numbers:
26 games - 21.3p 8.7r 4.8a 2.0st 1.5bl
It's just in that article I read, he seemed the think that all it takes to play good defense is putting in effort. I thought it was a stupid take, and if that is truly what he thought, then that explains why his defense was all over the place. You've got to learn positioning, footwork, defensive schemes, your opponent's offensive tendencies, their team's offensive schemes and how they play to be a great defender. It's not about just showing up, putting in some effort and chasing someone around. It takes extreme effort as well as all that other stuff to be a great defender.
I think he thought that his athleticism combined with some effort is all it was going to take to be a good defender at the NBA level.
I think he'll be on the team next year unless there's a surprise rookie. I can't see him not going back to the summer league, though. Hopefully he understands why he fell out of the rotation (and it's not because of Martin and Miller) and works on getting better rather than just being butt-hurt. He was WAAAYY overhyped (and some folks still think he's better than Anderson), but on a minimum contract and in a year where the Spurs may need to find as many min guys as possible, he has value to the organization.
He's good but not as experience as Martin or Miller. So I disagree here, he's out of the rotation because he can't protect the ball as well as more experience veterans. Besides, he is still a rookie. Since when does Pop gamble on rookies in the playoffs?
The fact he wasn't cut but Butler was, who was more likely to help in the playoffs if needed, says it's his roster spot for next season to lose.
You clearly have access to the internet. The answer to your question is readily available.
Actually Martin and Miller owe their presence here to Simmons. He was playing himself out of the rotation before we brought in KMart and Andre. They did not push him to Austin.
well, he's now back from Austin. I want to see Pop throw all sorts of defenders on Curry to see what sticks.
people that said this scrub is better than Fathead
Yep..Anderson has been even better than Diaw for the better of last 3 months
Anyway, Simmons should feel extremely lucky he wasn't cut in favor of Butler..he is really pushing against that tide rather more than basking in those premature "Mission accomplished" stories the media cobbled together about him making to the biggest stage..
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Even by scrap heap standards, Simmons is little bit behind curve..Danny Green established himself in Spurs rotation by age 24-- at Simmons age, he was burying the Heat under hail of 3pts in an NBA Finals (!)..Gary Neal was playing major minutes at start of 2010-2011 season (21.1) and was pulling a weight with upper echelon teams in Europe the seasons before..
JS will be 27 yo at the start of next without having an clear niche in the team yet..He is going to be fighting for that roster spot in camp and and early in the season..I'm little pessimistic he is going to make it to the end..
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