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  1. #51
    Double facepalm...
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    This is a very good question. I have been contemplating questions like this all year. The first question I'd counter with is: 04 rules or 16 rules? I submit that LOTS of old time players who were role players or borderline stars with 04 rules (or 90's rules) would have been stars and borderline superstars, respectively, with '16 rules... Dell Curry, Steve Kerr, Sam Perkins, all would have benefitted from current defenses... Peja Stojakavic, Ray Allen and Reggie Miller would have been tier 1 superstars... I think Nash is in that same boat... But if Steph Curry played in 04, he might have become a star, but he more likely would have been relegated to spot up shooter duty or situational 3 point specialist sub...

    I mean, we have seen the evolution of other guys like Kyle Korver who played in parts of both eras, and he went from role player to All Star due to the rule changes...

  2. #52
    Double facepalm...
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    Not in mine: Maybe the 1st one, but the 2nd should have gone to either Kobe or Billups...

  3. #53
    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    Did Nash deserve the back to back MVPs in your opinion?
    No.

  4. #54
    6X ST MVP
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    And who deserved the Nash MVPs? And is Curry deserving of back to back MVPs?

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    And who deserved the Nash MVPs? And is Curry deserving of back to back MVPs?
    Probably Garnett or dirk in 05, and dirk or Lebron in 06.

    Curry deserves his as well. All four years are pretty weak from an individual contributor perspective.

    I will take peak curry over Nash. While currys defense isn't awesome, he looks like Gary Payton compared to Nash.

  6. #56
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    Probably Garnett or dirk in 05, and dirk or Lebron in 06.

    Curry deserves his as well. All four years are pretty weak from an individual contributor perspective.

    I will take peak curry over Nash. While currys defense isn't awesome, he looks like Gary Payton compared to Nash.
    Yea, but KG and Dirk had won MVPs; and the media had a Steve Nash fetish that year. I think they may have given either of them (Kg, Dirk) the MVP in 05 if they knew Nash would be better the next year. I think Lebron was just stat stuffing in 06 whereas Nash was truly brilliant.

    I had originally asked because in Open Court Shaq had it in his head that he was somehow robbed out of MVPs those years.

  7. #57
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Yea, but KG and Dirk had won MVPs; and the media had a Steve Nash fetish that year. I think they may have given either of them (Kg, Dirk) the MVP in 05 if they knew Nash would be better the next year. I think Lebron was just stat stuffing in 06 whereas Nash was truly brilliant.

    I had originally asked because in Open Court Shaq had it in his head that he was somehow robbed out of MVPs those years.
    Dirk didn't win till 07.

    Garnett won in 04 and I guess people thought he didn't deserve it when the wolves weren't progressing people expected them to in 05.

    Lebron helped the cavs a lot in 06, that roster was horrible.

    Shaq felt he had a case because the heat improved a lot that year after getting him, but he dismissed wades improvement.

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    kerr's a better coach than dantoni.

  9. #59
    Believe.
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    I would be as pissed as Thread is if my team was the Suns,,,,I feel bad for the TOSB,,,,,

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    And who deserved the Nash MVPs?
    Shaq and Lebron.

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