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    The military conquered mainland Europe (excluding Switzerland) and it didn't consist of the vast majority of Germans nor do I believe that's really what they ever wanted. Many of Hitler's own generals thought he was a lunatic hence the assassination attempts.
    Yes indeed. You are correct. Since approximately 50% of the population before the war were women. There were also old people, babies and kiddos. The younger teenagers did not fight until the war was lost.
    Read The Rise and Fall...
    Im gonna have to take Shirer over you.

    The attempts on his life by generals came when the war was being squandered away. It is well known that the German military were very wary of Hitler but they still backed him, especially when the war was going well.

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    That's a massive oversimplification. You could draw similar circles with a huge one for the US population and a tiny one for NBA basketball players. That doesn't reflect the fact that tens of millions of the US population follow and support NBA basketball players.

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    That's a massive oversimplification. You could draw similar circles with a huge one for the US population and a tiny one for NBA basketball players. That doesn't reflect the fact that tens of millions of the US population follow and support NBA basketball players.
    if playing professional basketball was a threat to national security, i think the NBA players would be the ones we are afraid of

    if isis is the group actually killing people, i think the people within isis are the ones we are concerned about

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    if playing professional basketball was a threat to national security, i think the NBA players would be the ones we are afraid of

    if isis is the group actually killing people, i think the people within isis are the ones we are concerned about

    It matters because they get money, recruits, support, etc. from their fans

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    It matters because they get money, recruits, support, etc. from their fans
    money: do you have any figures of how many of the 1.8 billion muslims are funding isis?
    recruits: people who have been recruited are in the isis figure already
    support: do you have any figures of how many muslims support isis? before answering, consider that isis is responsible for more muslim deaths than western deaths

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    money: do you have any figures of how many of the 1.8 billion muslims are funding isis?
    recruits: people who have been recruited are in the isis figure already
    support: do you have any figures of how many muslims support isis? before answering, consider that isis is responsible for more muslim deaths than western deaths
    Better to just suspect them all and treat them accordingly.

    Close the borders! Open up the FEMA camps!

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    money: do you have any figures of how many of the 1.8 billion muslims are funding isis?
    recruits: people who have been recruited are in the isis figure already
    support: do you have any figures of how many muslims support isis? before answering, consider that isis is responsible for more muslim deaths than western deaths
    seriously? You don't acknowledge that ISIS receives huge financial support from (non-ISIS) Saudi Arabia?

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    You'd never know that considering how little is done by the Muslim population to stop ISIS. The LEAST they could do is speak out against it loudly and clearly. There should be 1.6B Malala Yousafzais shouting at the top of their lungs and taking some type of action to denounce this and stop it, yet there isn't, and there is hardly any meaningful opposition. So essentially, it just makes this look like a Western world vs Muslim world fight.

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    That's a massive oversimplification. You could draw similar circles with a huge one for the US population and a tiny one for NBA basketball players. That doesn't reflect the fact that tens of millions of the US population follow and support NBA basketball players.
    Do you think Ms of US Muslims send money to ISIS, etc?

    The Feds have gone after, heavily, only a few US people for "material support" of terrorism.

    (Too bad they don't go after 1000s of gun dealers who sell guns to straw buyers, on-line, etc.)

    Do you think the Feds/FBI/CIA/NSA/invasive-police-state are missing a huge number of US Muslims who provide support to ISIS, etc?

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    You'd never know that considering how little is done by the Muslim population to stop ISIS. The LEAST they could do is speak out against it loudly and clearly. There should be 1.6B Malala Yousafzais shouting at the top of their lungs and taking some type of action to denounce this and stop it, yet there isn't, and there is hardly any meaningful opposition. So essentially, it just makes this look like a Western world vs Muslim world fight.
    except we do know that

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    except we do know that
    Look at Darrin's graphic above... Yours is an oversimplification.

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    Over 40% of Americans think human beings have existed for 10K years or less.

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    Over 40% of Americans think human beings have existed for 10K years or less.
    We have a religious country full of many ignorant people. That's not new news.

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    feel free to read the full findings of that poll... http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-society-exec/

    when you're done please direct me to the "death for leaving islam" stat
    Last edited by spurraider21; 03-23-2016 at 12:34 PM.

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    Look at Darrin's graphic above... Yours is an oversimplification.
    his isn't?

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    His gives a lot more context to what that 1.6B believe.

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    His gives a lot more context to what that 1.6B believe.
    no. his lacks an incredible amount of context... such as (from the poll the data is based on)

    Among Muslims who support making sharia the law of the land, most do not believe that it should be applied to non-Muslims. Only in five of 21 countries where this follow-up question was asked do at least half say all citizens should be subject to Islamic law.

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    no. his lacks an incredible amount of context... such as (from the poll the data is based on)

    Among Muslims who support making sharia the law of the land, most do not believe that it should be applied to non-Muslims. Only in five of 21 countries where this follow-up question was asked do at least half say all citizens should be subject to Islamic law.
    It's crazy that even 5 of 21 think we (non-muslims) should be subject to Sharia law.

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    It's crazy that even 5 of 21 think we (non-muslims) should be subject to Sharia law.
    and a lot of christian americans want to impose their religious morals on the entirety of the US population, including to non-christians

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    no. his lacks an incredible amount of context... such as (from the poll the data is based on)

    Among Muslims who support making sharia the law of the land, most do not believe that it should be applied to non-Muslims. Only in five of 21 countries where this follow-up question was asked do at least half say all citizens should be subject to Islamic law.
    It's not exhaustive, it's a poll, so take it with a grain of salt.

    I find it interesting that they didn't poll anyone in the most conservative "Islamic" states (Saudi and Kuwait)

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    no. his lacks an incredible amount of context... such as (from the poll the data is based on)

    Among Muslims who support making sharia the law of the land, most do not believe that it should be applied to non-Muslims. Only in five of 21 countries where this follow-up question was asked do at least half say all citizens should be subject to Islamic law.
    These are details, of course there are varying degrees of belief. I think that is understood. Regardless, these are mostly not western values.

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    It's not exhaustive, it's a poll, so take it with a grain of salt.

    I find it interesting that they didn't poll anyone in the most conservative "Islamic" states (Saudi and Kuwait)
    of course it's not exhaustive. i was responding to the graphic posted by darrin which is (quite loosely) based on that very same non-exhaustive poll

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