Dr. Umar Jonhson speaks on sexuality and our Society

[Avante]

As everything I said was true.

But one....I confused relationships up with marriage.

[Blake]

As everything I said was true.

But one....I confused relationships up with marriage.

Wrong.

Folks of all sexual orientations who are in committed relationships have become more monogamous over time, or that's what*a study*that was published*Family Process*found. There are some hinky things in the reporting on this piece atUSA Today. For instance, the only heterosexual couples mentioned are married, but gay couples who are committed but have no formal union were also recorded. Additionally, the reporting conflates cheating with sex outside of the relationship, even though many couples have an understanding that allows for outside relationships. In fact, nonmonogamous cultural norms in gay male culture go a long way toward explaining why they're far more likely to have sex outside of a committed relationship than everyone else. *

Still, even with those caveats in place, the results of this survey are stunning. The rate of sex outside of the marriage has dropped for every category of people studied dramatically between 1975 and 2000. Twenty-eight percent of straight men in 1975 had sex with a woman outside of their marriage, but in 2000, it was only 10 percent. For straight, married women, the rate dropped from 23 percent to 14 percent. For gay men, 83 percent to 59 percent, and for lesbians, 28 percent to 8 percent. The*USA Todayarticle focuses mainly on gay couples and how the mainstream acceptance of sexuality has a lot to do with increasing rates of monogamy. There's a lot to think about there, since it is true that cultural acceptance has introduced far more stability into the lives of gay people, and the gay marriage movement has also increased the pressure to value monogamy.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...es_alike_.html

Lesbians appear to be the most faithful of any group

And of course, as society has become more accepting, the monogamy rates have increased

[Avante]

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Avante, you were right about...

suicide
alcoholism
drugs
gay men cheating

...my bad.

[Blake]

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Avante, you were right about...

suicide
alcoholism
drugs
gay men cheating

...my bad.

No, you didn't mention gay men, just gay world.

But I'm sure all your imaginary smart friends out there think you're a genius, amirite?

[Avante]

Hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

Avante....I'll take the Niners, Chiefs, Broncos, Packers and Giants to cover ATS.

I hit 4 of the 5

ST...HAHAHAHA YOU WERE WRONG YOU MISSED ONE, YIPPPEEE!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

You're ridiculously stupid.

[Avante]

Who out there follows a guy everywhere he goes but thinks he's stupid?

Yep, he's a .

[Ginobilly]

Do you actually work with kids

not anymore, but I did when I was a kinesiology/coach health teacher for 5 years. I worked with kids from all social economic groups and all ages, including special ed and convicted criminal kids. I found out that the majority of gay/bi kids came from ed up drug infested homes( I met the parents). No father, lesbian stripper pot smoking tatted up single mothers. There not the friendly intellectual gay families you see in hollywood shows and movies.

[Ginobilly]

Your anger is misplaced. You probably should see a psychiatrist or something for that.

Why? I had my loving parents to help me succeed in life. Why waste your money a shrink? I don't hate them as people but I hate what they do to kids. Everybody from rapists to gay pedos deserve to be in prison and cast out of society.

[Ginobilly]

So the conclusion here is that if society were to treat gays like normal members of society, the drug abuse, etc numbers would most likely go down to numbers that coincide with general population parameters.

Makes perfect sense, imo.

It's not society that causes you to do things. It's you that puts drugs into your system(nobody puts a gun to your head). Blaming other people for your problems is some weak . "I can't get a decent job because I smoke pot and do drugs" "let me blame society" "If they would just let me smoke crack and blaze while I drive this forklift" The truth is, it's the majority your parents and your fault why turn out the way you do in life. Let me blame the jews and the rothchilds for my problems People are some weak mother ers if they kill themselves over what the family research council wrote, or that god/bible hates sexuality. Simple solution! Don't read it! Do what you gotta do what makes you happy. Just follow the law and you'll be ok. Simple as that! " Let me kill myself cause somebody wrote some meany things of me on facebook" Delete that and go work out/ponte a trabajar or something.

[Blake]

It's not society that causes you to do things. It's you that puts drugs into your system(nobody puts a gun to your head). Blaming other people for your problems is some weak . "I can't get a decent job because I smoke pot and do drugs" "let me blame society" "If they would just let me smoke crack and blaze while I drive this forklift" The truth is, it's the majority your parents and your fault why turn out the way you do in life. Let me blame the jews and the rothchilds for my problems People are some weak mother ers if they kill themselves over what the family research council wrote, or that god/bible hates sexuality. Simple solution! Don't read it! Do what you gotta do what makes you happy. Just follow the law and you'll be ok. Simple as that! " Let me kill myself cause somebody wrote some meany things of me on facebook" Delete that and go work out/ponte a trabajar or something.

So you believe that a guy loving another guy naturally leads to drug abuse? Hard to tell in that mess of a post.

[Ginobilly]

So you believe that a guy loving another guy naturally leads to drug abuse? Hard to tell in that mess of a post.

I'm saying they're doing drugs to self medicate themselves and try to fix their internal problems, not because society is "hating" on them. When you say "society".....you include everybody in the world including yourself. So are you responsible for gays killing themselves? Everybody in society is going through some trials and tribulations.

[Avante]

I'll say it again....

How come we will never see a KNOWN gay head coach at Alabama? How come we will never see a KNOWN gay head coach in the NFL?'

No we don't accept it, but we will tolerate it to a point trying to be decent about it. But if pushed people really don't want s around them.

Yes they are more apt to commit suicide, abuse drugs and alcohol, and suffer from mental illness. Not a good combo.

QB wins the SB, ABC calls him over to talk about the big win, on his way his girl friend/wife grabs him, a big hug and kiss, then he moves on for the interview, no big deal.

QB wins the SB, ABC calls him over to talk about the big win, on his way his male lover grabs him, a big hug and kiss, then he moves on for the interview, no big deal, right?

Now nobody ever thought about this QB;s sexuality, who cared? Finding out he's straight, a non story, finding out he's a , big story, why?

[William Hung]

I'll say it again....

How come we will never see a KNOWN gay head coach at Alabama? How come we will never see a KNOWN gay head coach in the NFL?'

No we don't accept it, but we will tolerate it to a point trying to be decent about it. But if pushed people really don't want s around them.

Yes they are more apt to commit suicide, abuse drugs and alcohol, and suffer from mental illness. Not a good combo.

QB wins the SB, ABC calls him over to talk about the big win, on his way his girl friend/wife grabs him, a big hug and kiss, then he moves on for the interview, no big deal.

QB wins the SB, ABC calls him over to talk about the big win, on his way his male lover grabs him, a big hug and kiss, then he moves on for the interview, no big deal, right?

Now nobody ever thought about this QB;s sexuality, who cared? Finding out he's straight, a non story, finding out he's a , big story, why?

It'll be:

lol I'm not watching a 20 minute video or...
lol you're stupid

or...

So you believe blah blah blah? Answer the question! Always demanding information, but has nothing to bring to the table.

Absolutely nothing of value to add to the thread just endless, mindless drivel. I think we can declare victory here.

[Avante]

It'll be:

lol I'm not watching a 20 minute video or...
lol you're stupid

or...

So you believe blah blah blah? Answer the question! Always demanding information, but has nothing to bring to the table.

Absolutely nothing of value to add to the thread just endless, mindless drivel. I think we can declare victory here.

Funny as watching.

Avante..gays are more apt to be druggies, alkys, cheat, suicide than heteros.

then it's...


dummy 1....yeah right, haha!!!!!!!!
dummy 2...you got it, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Avante....here ya go, see.

dummy 1....ah...hmmm? Well..ah....
dumy 2....ah......but...ah....

Ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dummys who will never ever ever ever say......yep, you're right.

[Ginobilly]

"Anal intercourse is the sine qua non of sex for many gay men.4 Yet human physiology makes it clear that the body was not designed to accommodate this activity. The rectum is significantly different from the vagina with regard to suitability for penetration by a penis. The vagina has natural lubricants and is supported by a network of muscles. It is composed of a mucus membrane with a multi-layer stratified squamous epithelium that allows it to endure friction without damage and to resist the immunological actions caused by semen and sperm. In comparison, the anus is a delicate mechanism of small muscles that comprise an “exit-only” passage. With repeated trauma, friction and stretching, the sphincter loses its tone and its ability to maintain a tight seal. Consequently, anal intercourse leads to leakage of fecal material that can easily become chronic.

The potential for injury is exacerbated by the fact that the intestine has only a single layer of cells separating it from highly vascular tissue, that is, blood. Therefore, any organisms that are introduced into the rectum have a much easier time establishing a foothold for infection than they would in a vagina. The single layer tissue cannot withstand the friction associated with penile penetration, resulting in traumas that expose both participants to blood, organisms in feces, and a mixing of bodily fluids.

Furthermore, ejaculate has components that are immunosuppressive. In the course of ordinary reproductive physiology, this allows the sperm to evade the immune defenses of the female. Rectal insemination of rabbits has shown that sperm impaired the immune defenses of the recipient.5 Semen may have a similar impact on humans.6

The end result is that the fragility of the anus and rectum, along with the immunosuppressive effect of ejaculate, make anal-genital intercourse a most efficient manner of transmitting HIV and other infections. The list of diseases found with extraordinary frequency among male sexual prac ioners as a result of anal intercourse is alarming:

Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepa is types B & C
Syphilis7

Sexual transmission of some of these diseases is so rare in the exclusively heterosexual population as to be virtually unknown. Others, while found among heterosexual and sexual prac ioners, are clearly predominated by those involved in sexual activity. Syphilis, for example is found among heterosexual and sexual prac ioners. But in 1999, King County, Washington (Seattle), reported that 85 percent of syphilis cases were among self-identified sexual prac ioners.8 And as noted above, syphilis among sexual men is now at epidemic levels in San Francisco.9

A 2010 CDC data analysis underscores the disproportionate impact of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men in the United States. The data, presented at CDC’s 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, found that the rate of new HIV diagnosis among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women. The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women.10

A 1988 CDC survey identified 21 percent of all Hepa is B cases as being sexually transmitted while 18 percent were heterosexually transmitted.11 Since sexuals comprise such a small percent of the population (only 1-3 percent),12 they have a significantly higher rate of infection than heterosexuals.13

Anal intercourse also puts men at significant risk for anal cancer. Anal cancer is the result of infection with some subtypes of human papilloma virus (HPV), which are known viral carcinogens. Data as of 1989 showed the rates of anal cancer in male sexual prac ioners to be 10 times that of heterosexual males, and growing. 30 Thus, the prevalence of anal cancer among gay men is of great concern. For those with AIDS, the rates are doubled.14

Other physical problems associated with anal intercourse are:

hemorrhoids
anal fissures
anorectal trauma
retained foreign bodies.15"



So aids just doesn't reappear out of nowhere? Somebody has to have it first. It was the monkey fault.....

So wallowing and the mixing of feces and sperm is very healthy according to some on spurstalk?
I don't even have to read scientific journals or do research to come to the conclusion that these behaviors are not healthy. So sticking your penis and mixing it with , bacteria, semen will not create any disease? Some of you'll are really re ed/chisquiados, that I don't even know how you'll function in life.

[Blake]

What if gay men just want to get married and jack each other off?

Are you ok with that or are you going to find something dangerous with hand jobs?

[Blake]

And why is what they do in bed such a big deal for you?

[Ginobilly]

And why is what they do in bed such a big deal for you?

It is not. I don't care what people do. My only complaint about this is that the gov should tell the people the truth about it, instead of trying to make it sound like it's something wonderful and good for you.

[Avante]

Bottom line is any man sexually attracted to other men is sick. There really is no way around it. If he was born that way, ok he was born with a sickness. It's wrong, it's not socially accepted behavior and anyone defending it is weird.

[Blake]

It is not. I don't care what people do.

Sure. .

My only complaint about this is that the gov should tell the people the truth about it, instead of trying to make it sound like it's something wonderful and good for you.

Government website:

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/sexualbehaviors/

5 second search. I bet the government has plenty more info for anyone thinking about being a ghey person

[Ginobilly]

What if gay men just want to get married and jack each other off?

Are you ok with that or are you going to find something dangerous with hand jobs?

you can't marry another man. The word say it all. The word "matrimony" comes from the latin word "matri" meaning mother/women. In other words, you have to posses a vagina to marry a man and penis to marry a women. Penis+Vagina=marriage. Your penis marries her vagina. Two penises and two vaginas can't marry each other. You'll just be playing swords or rubbing each other. Have you ever done construction or mechanical work, and noticed that everything in life consists of male/female parts and the marrying of each other?

[Blake]

you can't marry another man. The word say it all. The word "matrimony" comes from the latin word "matri" meaning mother/women. In other words, you have to posses a vagina to marry a man and penis to marry a women. Penis+Vagina=marriage. Your penis marries her vagina. Two penises and two vaginas can't marry each other. You'll just be playing swords or rubbing each other. Have you ever done construction or mechanical work, and noticed that everything in life consists of male/female parts and the marrying of each other?

Well, then we can call it something else. Big deal.

[DisAsTerBot]

something wonderful and good for you?

jesus christ you are so scared of becoming gay. Or you have some irrational fear that people who are not gay will become gay. That's some good indoctrination tbh

[SpursforSix]

you can't marry another man. The word say it all. The word "matrimony" comes from the latin word "matri" meaning mother/women. In other words, you have to posses a vagina to marry a man and penis to marry a women. Penis+Vagina=marriage. Your penis marries her vagina. Two penises and two vaginas can't marry each other. You'll just be playing swords or rubbing each other. Have you ever done construction or mechanical work, and noticed that everything in life consists of male/female parts and the marrying of each other?

I don't know. Seems like a lot of stuff are built with hammering a nail into a board that didn't have a hole there already. And lots of buildings are built with a bunch bricks side by side.