PC and Muslim Agenda

[Blake]

PC is only a problem in cases like the clock kid where people don't want to believe the kid did anything wrong and instead blamed everything on prejudice.

The kid did nothing wrong but was arrested and left in handcuffs in front of the school.

If you're not going to blame prejudice, then what are you going to blame?

[Blake]

2. Little puss asses like Zuckerberg at Facebook and the Apple got will cooperate or be jailed.

I read that in WW2 German voice

[Chinook]

The kid did nothing wrong but was arrested and left in handcuffs in front of the school.

If you're not going to blame prejudice, then what are you going to blame?

Yeah...

[Blake]

Yeah...

What did he do that was illegal?

[Chinook]

What did he do that was illegal?

What did the teachers do that was illegal?

[lebomb]

way more concerned with ultra conservative christianity impacting our freedoms than islam any day of the week. tbh

Then you are extremely stupid.

[Blake]

What did the teachers do that was illegal?

Oh cool answering a question with a question

The teachers did nothing illegal. But they didn't get arrested. What did Ahmed do that was illegal?

[Blake]

Then you are extremely stupid.

You're pretty ignorant.

[Winehole23]

You always come at me spiteful when I write about the god delusion too.

it may seem spiteful to you, but it's just description. no hate.

[MultiTroll]

Oh cool answering a question with a question

The teachers did nothing illegal. But they didn't get arrested. What did Ahmed do that was illegal?

There is a whole thread on this if you want to revive the subject.

[Chinook]

Oh cool answering a question with a question

Yeah, because you don't do that a ton.

The teachers did nothing illegal. But they didn't get arrested. What did Ahmed do that was illegal?

He didn't do anything illegal, hence why he wasn't charged and put on trial.

[Blake]

There is a whole thread on this if you want to revive the subject.

I didn't bring it up

[Blake]

Yeah, because you don't do that a ton.

Usually for clarification. Yours was completely irrelevant.

He didn't do anything illegal, hence why he wasn't charged and put on trial.

Right but he got arrested any way.

Pretty clear why. And some are ok with treating people unfairly like that.

[Spurminator]

If only we said "Islamist terrorism" more, we would wipe out Muslim extremists worldwide. We are losing the war because our President won't say it.

I hear on the 1 billionth uttering of that phrase, the Prophet Muhammed reappears to be baptized into Christianity by Jesus Christ himself and everyone gets a brand new F150.

[DarrinS]

If only we said "Islamist terrorism" more, we would wipe out Muslim extremists worldwide. We are losing the war because our President won't say it.

I hear on the 1 billionth uttering of that phrase, the Prophet Muhammed reappears to be baptized into Christianity by Jesus Christ himself and everyone gets a brand new F150.

How long did you work on that?

[Spurminator]

How long did you work on that?

Took about two weeks from concept to first draft, but then we had some revisions based on feedback from focus groups (for example, they thought our original threshold of 1 million utterances was unrealistically small) so we went back and retooled over the next couple of weeks before presenting the final draft for publication this morning.

We were hoping to publish before the Clock Boy story was brought back up, but sometimes delays happen in this business.

[Chinook]

Usually for clarification. Yours was completely irrelevant.

No, it wasn't.

Right but he got arrested any way.

You don't have to do something illegal to get arrested. If that were the case, there'd be no need for trials.

Pretty clear why.

Yeah, because the kid was being an asshole by repeatedly plugging in his experiment despite repeated requests to stop doing it by teachers. But by all means, chalk it up to discrimination and prove my point.

[apalisoc_9]

No, it wasn't.



You don't have to do something illegal to get arrested. If that were the case, there'd be no need for trials.



Yeah, because the kid was being an asshole by repeatedly plugging in his experiment despite repeated requests to stop doing it by teachers. But by all means, chalk it up to discrimination and prove my point.

That's the problem. For what reason was the kid arrested other than having a "su ious" clock. The school didnt repeatdly asked him smto stop plugging, they just called the cops on him. If you dont think there is fundamentally wrong or discriminatory about calling the cops on middle eastern kid with an innocent project then I dont know what to tell you.

Getting arrested and publicly humiliated for nothing is a big deal. Try being in that situation

[xrayzebra]

NOW, we get to the issue here. Those "some people" you refer to can speak freely, but the fact that either there's no audience or that the audience disagree with the message is what really bothers you. Again, this is YOUR problem.

There's nothing stopping anybody from being xenophobes, Islamophobic, racists, make gross generalizations... nothing. Whether there's an audience for that is a completely different story.

Generally speaking, we've largely moved on from those things culturally as a society for a while now, for a number of reasons (among them, logically speaking, there's a lot to lose for taking those positions, whereas there's nothing to lose by not adopting them).

In the end, you either adapt to the times we're living, or you'll probably die a bitter man.

ElNono you are typical. You complete ignore the subject and start attempting to change the subject. If someone has something to say that is different or opposed to your opinion then they are some kind of "Islamophobic, racists, make gross generalizations... nothing". And your summary of someone who does oppose you: " you either adapt to the times we're living, or you'll probably die a bitter man." is flat out wrong.

The subject of my post is "Political Correctness" which is not "correct" it is just political and a way to force people to conform to group think. If someone didn't like Obama then they became "racist" because Obama was black and could not be criticized. Never mind that he is much white as he is black. But no matter he appears black although under "todays" standards he had every advantage of "white privilege. And he also had the advantage of skin color which he exploited/exploits at every turn.

One other point. Your statement: "Whether there's an audience for that is a completely different story." How do we know there is or isn't an audience for what those who weren't allowed to speak, because of the "group think" of a bunch of big mouth kids who obviously had no audience except themselves and their closed minds.

[DarrinS]

That's the problem. For what reason was the kid arrested other than having a "su ious" clock.

You know who referred to that clock as "su ious"? The "inventor" himself.

[apalisoc_9]

ElNono you are typical. You complete ignore the subject and start attempting to change the subject. If someone has something to say that is different or opposed to your opinion then they are some kind of "Islamophobic, racists, make gross generalizations... nothing". And your summary of someone who does oppose you: " you either adapt to the times we're living, or you'll probably die a bitter man." is flat out wrong.

The subject of my post is "Political Correctness" which is not "correct" it is just political and a way to force people to conform to group think. If someone didn't like Obama then they became "racist" because Obama was black and could not be criticized. Never mind that he is much white as he is black. But no matter he appears black although under "todays" standards he had every advantage of "white privilege. And he also had the advantage of skin color which he exploited/exploits at every turn.

One other point. Your statement: "Whether there's an audience for that is a completely different story." How do we know there is or isn't an audience for what those who weren't allowed to speak, because of the "group think" of a bunch of big mouth kids who obviously had no audience except themselves and their closed minds.

The problem with your thinking is that you think that making Generalizations on a particular set of people is a better way going forward than avoiding the matter..

The muzzies arent going to go away, they are only going to get bigger and to make a stance that may deeply ruin in an already ruined relationship with them might spell long term trouble. History tells us uncertainty can be a real . You never know the landscape 40 years from now..

People are allowed to speak against Islam. Its pretty much the salt and pepper of todays western media so Ihave no idea why this thread even exist. Are you suggesting the Western rallies up and fight Islam all together? You're asking to allienate the moderates even more. Thats just going to generate more "terrorist". Humans in nature react when they're faced with these kind of treatment.

[apalisoc_9]

You know who referred to that clock as "su ious"? The "inventor" himself.

Except that is in no way or form was his actual meaning towards the clock. Anyone with a brain of a pea would have known that but the obvious discrimination was on play here.

[Spurminator]

If someone didn't like Obama then they became "racist" because Obama was black and could not be criticized. Never mind that he is much white as he is black. But no matter he appears black although under "todays" standards he had every advantage of "white privilege. And he also had the advantage of skin color which he exploited/exploits at every turn.

not a racist though.

[DarrinS]

Except that is in no way or form was his actual meaning towards the clock. Anyone with a brain of a pea would have known that but the obvious discrimination was on play here.

Anyone with a brain of a pea would have known that putting the guts of a clock in case, bringing it to school, and setting off the alarm in class was a bad idea.

[Chinook]

Except that is in no way or form was his actual meaning towards the clock. Anyone with a brain of a pea would have known that but the obvious discrimination was on play here.

That misses the point of why I brought it up. The issue with how PC has affected the clock-boy case isn't that it's not letting people justify discrimination. It's that it's masking the complex system of responsibility and blame in this case. Even if you don't believe the parts about the teachers telling him to put away his clock repeatedly and him bringing it anyway when it wasn't even part of a school project, there is simply no excuse for a Muslim kid to bring something to school that he knows looks su ious. And there's no excuse for a black man to resist arrest giving the current political climate. It's not about thinking the police are justified in these cases; it's about being realistic.

Too many people are obsessed with what should be and not focused enough on what is. We live under the latter standard, and we have to keep that in mind as we try to move to the former.