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Yup, completely indefensible comment by Parker.
First, that little overrated , Tony Parker. Second, Duncan and Bruce are historically among the best defensive players ever and both deserved DPOYs. Third, Bruce is nowhere near the defensive player Kawhi is. It's not even close.
Yup, completely indefensible comment by Parker.
Nothing to see here in my opinion. Tony is right Bruce and Timmy should have won the award. The way I read it he's not knocking Kawhi. I'm sure Leonard would agree with Tony (about thanking Duncan at least). ST trying to find an agenda I don't think is there.
Seriously if you have a problem with Parker comments there's a problem with YOU.
This is poor writing. The headline is misleading and meant to get clicks. TP haters and Kawhi fans blowing this way out of proportion.
The problem here is NOT if what Parker says is true.
For instance, Tim could state to the press: "I think Parker owes an apology to Brent Barry", or "I don't think Parker's current level of play is consistent with his salary", or even "Parker should thank Pop, Manu and myself for the recognition he gets".
The problem would NOT be if the statements are true, which they are, or how Tim phrased his ideas. It's that he would be a ing ASSHOLE.
What a piece of crap this guy is. Hopefully he gets traded at the end of the season.
People and their agendas....
What he said is Kawhi deserve it of course and Tim and Bruce deserved it also but Spurs were "forgotten" because of small market . He is just saying Tim and Bowen helped Spurs to be recognized and thanks to them Spurs players are not anymore forgotten for this award.
there is nothing wrong with what he said...
just when i thought i couldn't hate him even more. wow.
how's your health bro?
Parker never said anything about what Kawhi owes. He said he can thank Bowen and Duncan. Then he elaborated that the Spurs as a brand were built by those two, and that Kawhi can get the recognition that he "deserves" (yes, Parker said Kawhi totally deserves the award), he's winning the awards. Nothing wrong with that. The headline made it seem like he was discrediting Kawhi, but the only people who believe that are folks who didn't read the actual quotes.
I'm dying. Need a heart transplant.
Jk.
lol aww..u stil aint drinking?
Right, because observing that "Kawhi can say thanks to Bruce and Timmy for those defensive awards" is in no way downplaying Kawhi's recognition.
But fine, you are in denial, so keep turning a blind eye and talking bout agendas and whatnot.
I mean, people "say thanks" when they get awards all the time. Kawhi thanked the Spurs organization his acceptance speech. Does that mean he thinks he doesn't deserve the award?
I'm not even a Parker shill. I think the Spurs should dump him if at all possible in the off-season. I think he says dumb things a lot. But I also think his English vocabulary isn't all that large, so he doesn't have a ton of nuance in his phrasing. The whole quote was about Kawhi being awarded fairly because the media pays attention to the Spurs more than they used to. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.But fine, you are in denial, so keep turning a blind eye and talking bout agendas and whatnot.
The only thing Leonard had going for him out of college was his defense. He had the reputation there all ready. Obviously, the Spurs long history of defense helps open more eyes to what Leonard does. But to pretend Leonard only became known as a defensive guy once he joined the Spurs is selling him short.
I mean really. Anyone who comes through this organization is going to owe thanks to those who came before.
Nope. I don't drink. Well maybe a beer with a meal every now and then but that's about it.
Yeah, no one said that.
Duncan should have won it the year Marc Gasol won it. Excellent advanced defensive numbers and had a ridiculous block to foul rate, something like 2.75 bpg to 1.5 PFPGLeonard is unquesionably the better defender than Bowen. Hes also the best defender for the best defensive spurs team ever whilst not having a Tim Duncan to cover up for him.
Tim Duncan not winning one, specially in 09 is a joke. If the new age media existed then, he would have won..
Parker is salty as though. What a great temate he is
Get that out of the team.now
The problem here is not whether Kawhi deserved the award. Parker's not even saying he shouldn't be awarded with it. It's that, faced with the opportunity to praise his teammate's current level of play and defense, he downplays his credit reminding others had to work hard before he could be awarded, which is entirely true and as you say something we see all the time, but it's the reciever of the award or recognition the one sharing the credit with whomever he deems appropriate, not one of his teammates reminding who he owes sharing the credit with.
[/QUOTE]I'm not even a Parker shill. I think the Spurs should dump him if at all possible in the off-season. I think he says dumb things a lot. But I also think his English vocabulary isn't all that large, so he doesn't have a ton of nuance in his phrasing.[/QUOTE]
Fine, i just don't think he lacks the skills to communicate such basic things as these. Let's face it, this interviews and "what do you think of your teammate success" are commonplace questions for a famous professional athlete and he has been through this lots of times. He does not lack the language skills to discuss simple things as these. But I guess we can't prove it.
Exactly the point. Those people that are backing up what Parker said, do you understand why some people are pissed off with him? Sure Tim and Bruce should have won, but what the does that have to do with Kawhi? Kawhi doesn't have to thank anyone. Why the should Kawhi thank anyone? He's worked his ass off on defense to win the awards. Tony should be the one thanking Kawhi for keeping the window open and helping the Spurs win another Championship since he arrived.
Parker made it very clear what that had to do with Kawhi.
Doesn't sound like to me like Parker was dismissing KL defensive prowess and his recognition of it. Sounds more like to me like he was paying homage to Duncan and BB, who were at the time great defenders in their own right ,on great defensive teams that got overlooked because the Spurs were always an afterthought.
He did praise Kawhi. He also praised the Spurs' brand of defense. I think it's appropriate. If anything the Spurs' are STILL underrated as a defensive team. Before they used to snub Tim (and I guess Bowen). Now, they continue to snub Tim but begrudgingly recognize Kawhi. But Green gets fewer All-Defense votes than Harden, and Splitter's D is almost completely forgotten. The Spurs have an image problem, and it used to be much worse. And with the way Kawhi markets himself, it's very possible that Draymond and DeAndre get DPOY awards over him in the future.
Is the difference all due to the refined legacy? No. Analytics playing a better role helps a ton, too, as there are more stats to measure defense. More eyes on more games helps. Kawhi straight-up being better than Bowen while Duncan is worse than his old self is huge. And obviously, Kawhi's own skill is up there. That should be the biggest reason. But when awards boil down to little more than popularity contests, it's not enough. That's unfortunate, but it's the reality.
Great defenders get overlooked all the time due to market. Bad ones get elevated because of popularity. Kawhi doesn't have to struggle with that because guys like Bowen, Tim and Robinson made the team relevant. He doesn't owe anyone for being great. But without those guys, he may well have only been great in the eyes of Spurs fans.
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