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    Is KD worth it?

    No he isn't.

    Same goes for Dubs.

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    Thanks for a fresh thread and a dose of reality to a board with its head in the clouds of KD rumors (including me)

    Im willing to lose Parker, ESPECIALLY if Duncan retires. Diaw isnt getting any younger or leaner either, and Kyle will be ready for a larger bench role next year. Losing Patty would really hurt, but if theres anyway we could trade for a solid pick to package and move up for an pure point guard to run the offense and feed the horses we gotta take it.

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    I'd like a new stud PG for the Spurs. They don't need KD.

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    The projected salary cap for 16/17 is $92m. KD is a 9-year veteran, so under this cap his max contract will be worth $25.9m the first year. The most feasible scenario for the Spurs to clear this amount of cap space is:...
    Good post, but same discussion is already going on in the other thread.

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    Don't know what it is but with the eye test, he seems to be regressing a bit and I'm not basing this on yesterday's game.

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    can we lure John Wall??

    thats a stud pg i like for our team

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    Tough to loose Green and his defense but he'd be very easily tradeable as a 3 and D and would free up cap room. We could probably get a pick thrown in given his contract. Package the 29 and trade up this year or get a future pick. Question is would Pop do it or stay loyal. Anybody thinking if training Parker it would likely be hard to move him, Pop's loyalty and who's going to be the PG?

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    If this is serious talk and not hype the person I would be worried about being offended is Aldridge. Duncan if he stays is OK with coming off the bench at this point or at least a limited role. Kahwi is a natural 3. Personally I see Durant as being better off 10 lbs heavier and playing 4. (I know the weight on foot argument but I counter with way less movement on D). Aldridge sees himself as a 4 as well. Playing with those 3 as the front court works against most teams and you bring in Duncan or Boban or Whomever against larger/heavier traditional teams. Kahwi as a 2 and no Green seriously weakens the perimeter D and contract wise means Parker was likely kept. Green at 2 and an a Defense minded passing of even a young one is sick on both ends.

    I am also curious about .trying to poach D'Angelo Russell from the Lakers. That locker room and organization is a mess and from my view point what he tried to do showed moral character but question execution on the methods. He also has mad talent. I would see if you can approach Jim Buss with Parker and a Second for Russel and what ever salary filler is needed. Point out Parker won't tweet locker room infidelity. Tell Parker he is then in LA all year for clubbing his pick of starlets and wanna be actresses. Everyone but the Lakers win.
    Green would almost certainly have to go to clear the cap room, so you slide KL2 to the 2, play KG at the 3, and LMA at the 4.

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    What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces

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    If we ring this year I doubt anything happens. You don't ship off 3 or 4 guys who just helped you get a championship, no matter who you're getting back. Very un-Spursy.

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    What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces
    I thought about that too. But I think there is a reason that would be bad for KD. Some cap expert type please assist us.

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    What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces
    he's a beta with a bum foot. I don't think he plays the short term game. It's too risky, he's not lebron either in personality or health.

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    Spurs would pay some luxury tax if it meant attaining Durant. I don't know how much, though.

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    Seriously KD is just a got tbh. I'd probably take Dray Green over KD.

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    Silver has been good to the Spurs but I doubt if he allows it.

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    Spurs would pay some luxury tax if it meant attaining Durant. I don't know how much, though.

    They're paying it this year.

    They have completely changed course on the anti tax thing which has been fantastic. Has killed the Thunder.

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    The Worriers can afford to miss on a player like KD, they're still young and getting better.

    The Spurs? They're getting older and this is most likely Tim's and Manu's last year. Spurs stayed put after 2014 and they went out in the first round because they regressed. So what did they do? They went out in free agency and bought the best scorer there was available. You don't pass on an opportunity to sign a player like Durant.

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    Seriously KD is just a got tbh. I'd probably take Dray Green over KD.
    I agree KD is soft and I think his broken foot has impacted his over all game. He just looks slower out on the court he plays terrible defense and he is a jerk.

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    Durant will never come. Kawhi and Durant hate each other.
    So you keep saying. With 0 proof.

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    durant is a . people who want him on the spurs are probably 12 year olds who have to line up at the mall when new shoes come out. ST is starting to make reddit look good.
    +1

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    He's been having a lousy playoffs so far and you have to wonder whether his head is into it ...if it ends ugly for them (hopefully, as Spurfan), bolting from that terribly managed franchise should be no-brainer (obviously his beta side may tell him to waste another season so he can plan the future together with Westbrook)..

    Sure, jumping in with his main roadblocks (Spurs/Warriors) wouldn't look good for his overall (compe ive) image, but we don't know exactly his desperation level when it comes to winning..if he comes straight to you, you take him..You would be foolish not to ..

    IMO he should consider going East: Boston/Atlanta/Wizards are all good options..If he signs with any of them, they are automatically co-favorite with Cavs to make the Finals.. KD is soon 28 and entering the second half of his prime that's going to be played on a bum foot.. .he should be close to the point where averaging +35 MPG while expected to be playing 82 games is unhealthy for his long term career prospects..He's been raving about "great systems" for a while now, we will see if he's conscious enough to walk into a situation that maximizes his talents and takes some offensive load off him with better scheming/structure (ie his team should able to get by on most (non-playoff) nights he only has 15-17 points)..

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    I see the off season the spurs looking at free agency for a viable PG to fill in minutes in the rotation then after that someone to fill the void in the 4/5 position going into the off season. Evaluate the potential over bringing in one maybe two international players from our stash picks and finally with the spurs pick in the draft seeing what falls down to there late pick in the draft.

    I think they focus the off season with improving the team against the current flaws it has with its lineup versus compe ion.

    PG is are weakest position now defensively as well as facilitating on the offensive end. It isn't bad currently but it is definitely something teams take advantage of.

    Going after Durant and spending cap space or wheeling and dealing to create cap for him just doesn't look like and ideal thing to do.

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    KD wants to be seen as the best player in the league. He's not going to get that sharing the wealth. He's going to need to go somewhere like LA or NY to do it because there's not enough stats and spotlight in small market America unless you're a generational talent like Lebron, and you have to have a media friendly persona to get there as well. KD has turned into a salty in OKC. That's not who he was when he first went to Seattle. He needs to find a big market and shut up and make his mark there. The last thing he needs is a small market team where his talent is diluted and his lack of defense is made more obvious.

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    He's been having a lousy playoffs so far and you have to wonder whether his head is into it ...if it ends ugly for them (hopefully, as Spurfan), bolting from that terribly managed franchise should be no-brainer (obviously his beta side may tell him to waste another season so he can plan the future together with Westbrook)..

    Sure, jumping in with his main roadblocks (Spurs/Warriors) wouldn't look good for his overall (compe ive) image, but we don't know exactly his desperation level when it comes to winning..if he comes straight to you, you take him..You would be foolish not to ..

    IMO he should consider going East: Boston/Atlanta/Wizards are all good options..If he signs with any of them, they are automatically co-favorite with Cavs to make the Finals.. KD is soon 28 and entering the second half of his prime that's going to be played on a bum foot.. .he should be close to the point where averaging +35 MPG while expected to be playing 82 games is unhealthy for his long term career prospects..He's been raving about "great systems" for a while now, we will see if he's conscious enough to walk into a situation that maximizes his talents and takes some offensive load off him with better scheming/structure (ie his team should able to get by on most (non-playoff) nights he only has 15-17 points)..

    If he wants to win a le he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.

    The emergence of the Warriors really ed things up for him to stay in OKC. They have no chance to legitimately contend with them next couple of years. And we've all heard the chance of him joining them which IMO is REAL.

    Spurs sre pretty much the only team that can compete THIS year with GSW..next year or so is still up in the air. But if he joins SA it changes the landscape.

    It's SA or GSW with GSW being the favorite IMO. Only way he stays in OKC is the $$.

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    If he wants to win a le he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.

    The emergence of the Warriors really ed things up for him to stay in OKC. They have no chance to legitimately contend with them next couple of years. And we've all heard the chance of him joining them which IMO is REAL.

    Spurs sre pretty much the only team that can compete THIS year with GSW..next year or so is still up in the air. But if he joins SA it changes the landscape.

    It's SA or GSW with GSW being the favorite IMO. Only way he stays in OKC is the $$.
    That's the kind of player you could cheer for? Someone who's a , who can't win, who runs to his rival or compe ion...? Isn't this the reason people hate LeBron?

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