Great find.
So much for the unity. We really may be watching a party split. This will be amazing.
What does the establishment think is driving Trump's popularity, the increase in republican primary turnout, interest in this election cycle/ratings? Disgust with them. Ryan talks the conservative line about limited government, reduced spending, en lement reform and turns around and gets THAT budget through the House - what a hypocrite.
It will be a good thing that the Bushes don't go to the convention - will bring over more democrats and independents.
The majority will get on board eventually. the elected elite are a lot more pissed off about it than average Republican voters.
George W. Bush has been a liability for republicans the last two presidential elections. He won't be this time around because Trump has totally repudiated him, and to top that, Hillary actually went along with his war. The tables have turned.
The Republican voters I know are very pissed.
Ryan's not conservative enough
seems like there's about 20% Dems and Repugs who will vote for the Repug or Dem candidate, since they dislike their party's candidate intensely.
Trump vs Hillary is already an UNpopularity contest which is about as rational a issues-free Pres popularity contest.
like "I'll vote dubya, because my main criterion is that I could drink a beer with him"
or
"I'm a feminist and voting for Hillary only because she's a woman and I want to avoid "that special place in "
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I wonder. What if the mad dog catches the car?
Wow. It takes a special kind of stupid to make a thread like this so early on, for either candidate.
When it goes the other way, this thread will be the albatross around your neck.
Adams makes some very interesting points, that are hard to dismiss out of hand. I like his paradigm. We'll see.
I like to have some confidence in the overall intelligence of the voting public. Trumps negatives are going to be exploited by some very savvy operators.
Meh.
Canceled out by crooked real estate developer.
That only plays to the faithful.
Remember the election is decided by the morons in the middle who think the two parties are somehow equal.
You sound scared.Wow. It takes a special kind of stupid to make a thread like this so early on, for either candidate.
When it goes the other way, this thread will be the albatross around your neck.
My point is that Ryan is pretending to be a conservative and DOING something completely opposite. He's telling Trump that he wants to make sure Trump represents conservative values and yet Ryan authors that budget deal.
Ryan's just pissed that Trump blocked him from getting the 'savior" nomination at the convention.
why is Ryan not a conservative? have you seen his last 4 or 5 budgets?
What?
Then Bernie is not a liberal.
I saw a poll this week that read they both are almost equally disliked. I think Trump was polling somewhere around 65% overall dislike, while Hillary was polling somewhere in the 50% range. I think she will probably wind up beating Trump, I just think it's going to be a whole lot tighter than the Obama 08 steam roll.
Iirc, the last budget deal will increase the debt by $2 trillion. How can one talk about limited government and reduced spending when one is INCREASING the debt? The republicans got their military spending increase to match the democrats' social program spending. “If you would have told me this year that we’d be standing here celebrating the passage of an omnibus bill,” (Chuck) Schumer claimed. “I wouldn’t have believed it, but here we are.”
My hubby brought home a fully functional printer/fax machine/scanner combination yesterday saying that it had reached "full life" at work and they were going to throw it away. They had had extra money in their department and decided to buy toner with it - 3 months later, the printers that used that toner reached "full life" - yep, gonna get rid of all those printers and all that toner and replace with different printers. And that's just hardware, not software. Now multiply that by the stories he's come home with since he started working for them in March and multiply that by the number of departments in the federal government - the waste is mind-boggling.
What are you, 12?
That is the kind of rejoinder my 9 year old might come up with.
A: "Your prediction seems seriously premature, it may come to haunt you"
B: "You sound scared."
The only thing missing is a "neener neener".
The plural of anecdote is not "data". Anybody can find some story or another about something that makes them mad. But if all that spending on the printers amounts to .04% of the overall budget for the department, so what?
What waste?
Where?
Define waste?
People about that, but when you start trying to flesh it out, there is less there than one might think.
I am sure there is waste. I am also 100% certain that there is generally less than many on the right think there is, and not in the places that they think the waste is.
The big ticket waste is in the DOD.
Lastly, the size of the debt, by itself, is a pointless bit of data.
What matters is the size of the debt relative to GDP. Further US bonds qualify as debt, and getting rid of that would have a LOT of people ing, because they form the basis of many investment portfolios.
There is so much demand for US federal debt, they are issuing it at super low rates. So all the 30 year bonds that were issued at 7 or 8% are being replaced by 2-3% bonds.
We should be borrowing more, and building/repairing our infrastructure that is, literally, falling down around our heads in places. Our debt is so cheap that our GDP would end up far larger in the long run for having done so.
I hope Trump realizes how much good it does him to visit liberal strongholds and get protested at. Hillary's supporters crave social consensus and huge Trump rallies in their home states will demoralize them on election day. Also, national polls are what get reported on TV, so they matter.
I can't believe we are at a point in American History where the choices for President are a clown and a sociopath. I will let you the reader determine which is which.
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