Noah sucks. Unless he's pulling a West, nope.
If healthy, I like him. Tough, good passer, great defensive player (especially help defense), very good rebounder.
The question is :
1 - He is 31 y/o in the downside of his career. How much does he have left? How much does he want ?
Honestly, I don't see him signing for less than 15/year and he probably wants a full 4-year contract. For a guy that has played only 29 games last season, it's a risky move no doubt.
I like him. But it would be frustrating seeing him bull his way up and down the court and produce very little. I do think he brings things Tim Duncan used to and unlike 16 Duncan, he can make a lay up.
He'd be a huge upgrade over Duncan IMO. I actually would prefer Gasol or taj Gibson
His passion and emotion could help when the Spurs need to pick it up a notch.
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He'd be a huge upgrade over Duncan IMO. I actually would prefer Gasol or taj GibsonAs Noah fell, so did the Bulls. So disastrous was his 2014-15 season, he would register less total points scored (485) than his rookie season (488). Guarding more power forwards than ever before, his storied defensive ability had also fallen away. Moving from center to the four spot in order to integrate the slow and aging Gasol, no longer would his lateral quickness be a staple in the pick-and-roll defense. If that weren’t enough, his playoff performance would be worse than his regular season play. On the big stage, once again matched up against James and his cronies, the Cavaliers would expose the center's inability to efficiently score the basketball, often leaving him unguarded and forcing the Bulls into an inadvertent 4 on 5 scenario. With no one guarding him and more room to operate with, Noah simply couldn't get it done. His already terrible regular season true-shooting percentage (48.4%) would significantly fall (40.7%) in the post-season.
So much had changed. No longer would Noah be viewed as one of the most versatile and terrific defenders in the league. Instead, his name would quickly carry a stigma which would have supporters shouting "trade him now!".
Have not watched in play in a while but remember him as a monster on the offensive glass. Him as a starter probably would not be ideal but as a backup big in a 20-25 minute role could be nice. Worried about his price tag. Someone will talk themselves into giving him a short term deal worth around $14M. Think I would rather buy low on Hibbert and have him next to LMA for 25 mpg
Hibbert starting AND playing 25 minutes in 2016.
wtf is this? another drawing straws topic? Spurs are foolsgold.
Pop will make sure he only plays 12-15 min a game so he's fresh for the playoffs!
People might think it's a good time to buy low on Noah but he can probably still get $15+ million on the open market. With the new cap, it might not be so bad and a decent risk. Noah has declined tremendously in the past two years and even lost his starting job before getting injured. Still, at 31, he might have a few good years left in him if he properly recovers from his injuries during the offseason. If he ever regains even 80% of what he was in his prime, he would be a great fit next to Aldridge.
I would pass. Spurs should try to get younger, not lock up cap space gambling on aging has-beens. If Spurs want to gamble, at least do it on a younger player.
Willing to bet Noah signs a 1 yr deal wherever he goes-- he had a terrible year and the cap is expected to e even more next summer. Now wouldn't be a smart time to cash in for Noah.
Healthy Noa >>> Duncan
Noah hasn't been the same since his knee injury back in 2014.
As far as finishing in the paint, 2016 Tim = 2016 Noah
no...too risky....and some desperate GM will overpay...
No . He played like 15 games in 16.
Healthy noa >>> 16 Timmy
Not saying it should be this guy but spurs do definitely need a player that does the dirty work. Just look at the OKC front line and that guy on the Raptors. Spurs seriously lack that kind of player. The notion that every big man on the roster needs to also just shoot 3s is old and no longer effective with the decline of TDs roll in the offense.
In that case, Tim w/ one shot knee > Healthy Noah
You have guys like Cole Aldrich/Mozgov who can do the dirty work for cheap & can actually finish in the paint unlike Noah.
Dump Diaw+D-Worst, sign Marvin Williams+Aldrich. If Tim retires, offer Pau the Room Exception.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 05-25-2016 at 04:48 PM.
Lowe speculated recently that Williams could command 2/$30M. He's way out of the Spurs' price range.
I doubt they end up spending more than something like $10M on a specific free agent and they'll probably only go that high for Gasol.
People throwing around all these names that are going to be expensive, are going to be disappointed.
Even Noah, who they might have interest in, if there's a belief that he could regain at least something close to his previous form, probably ends up out of their price range.
I agree with those that say he'll sign a 2 year deal, with a player option after the 1st year, in order to attempt to re-prove himself and cash in next year for one final big deal.
If he's betting on himself to have a come back season after rehabbing and thus will accept a one and one I would take him. We need bigs that have wheels, and he may have no wheels, thus I not crazy about him, but he's worth a gamble for one cheap season. If he wants to get paid, a role, etc probably no.
Why not go younger with Plumlee?
He's an energy guy and would help the Spurs a bit but not for what he would be worth. Pau Gasol is a better fit imo Spurs need a big that can score consistently, and Noah at times can't even make a layup. Just a rebounder, defensive energy type of player. For cheap though he's worth it.
He had an atrocious playoff series & the Hornets only have his Early Bird rights so they can only offer him 9mill per (120% raise, the max allowed with Early Bird Rights). The Hornets probably value him more than any team so that would take the main compe or out of the market if the Spurs offer him say 4yr/48.
His playoff struggles might work in the Spurs favor unlike Biyombo.
Otherwise, hope Sean Marks will gift PATFO Thad Young for Diaw/Kyle/Simmons: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hapnu9h
There are guys like Solomon Hill, E'Twanu Moore & Vasquez who can the backup fill the wings for cheap if Kyle/Simmons are moved; Vasquez could fill in the Manu void. Then use the remaining cap space on a center & offer Pau the room exception.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 05-25-2016 at 05:56 PM.
I don't think his playoff struggles really matter. People often read too much into random blips, which was probably what this was, at an inopportune time.He had an atrocious playoff series & the Hornets only have his Early Bird rights so they can only offer him 9mill per (120% raise, the max allowed with Early Bird Rights). The Hornets probably value him more than any team so that would take the main compe or out of the market if the Spurs offer him say 4yr/48.
His playoff struggles might work in the Spurs favor unlike Biyombo.
Otherwise, hope Sean Marks will gift PATFO Thad Young for Diaw/Kyle.
Even if the Spurs could sign Williams for 4/48, that would mean Aldridge and him would be their top two bigs. As much as that would probably warm Chinook's and SAGirl's heart, they'd get destroyed on the defensive glass and at the rim.
The same thing would apply with Young, who'd probably require a 1st.
I would like him here. He was forced to come off the bench, which he didn't want to do, and played out of position at the PF spot. He's a good passer and a talker on D. Hopefully his DPOY days are not fully behind him.
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