Erazem Lorbek, Davis Bertan, Adam Hanga, DeShaun Thomas

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The more I watch Milutinov, the more I want him brought over. He'll be cheap and he has a nice skillset. Physical. Good in the PnR. Knack for offensive rebounding. Good passer. Decent midrange jumper. Even if he's not ready, I'd rather have him go through the ropes and have a Boban type of year instead of averaging 10 minutes a game in Europe.

[kaji157]

Lorbek hasnt played in like 2 years now, he is a free agent and i am not sure if he is already retired. If not, he clearly is the better player of them all, even at 32 years old, is big, fundamental and has a reliable outside shot, which could be great to add alongside LA and Kawhi who clog the paint a lot.
I am not sure how retired he is, if he is retired at all, he was forced to skip the previous year due to an injury, and i´m not sure why he didn´t come back. Still i would invite him to the training camp to check him out, is one of the few that could be NBA ready.

[Chinook]

The Spurs don't have Thomas' rights anymore. He'll probably be on the summer league team, but I don't really consider him a prospect anymore.

[koriwhat]

Do I need to point it out to you, you stupid .

call me what you want but until you can put a psu together with no need for a schematic then come at me.

btw, your takes have always been of the ignorant variety. have fun with that.

[tholdren]

The Spurs don't have Thomas' rights anymore. He'll probably be on the summer league team, but I don't really consider him a prospect anymore.

He never was a prospect. No defense and a really, really, bad shooter. It's funny because shooting was what he was "known for" coming out of college. He was a bully in High School, reminded me a lot of what Evan Turner was doing in the NCAA - Green type of junk scorer. Came to college, did not hit the weight room - stayed fat - became reliant on not creating his own jumpshot. Terrible defender.

If you're looking for an under-the-radar shooter I wonder why people don't give Jon Diebler a look. Spurs need a shooter. Dude blows at anything other than catch-and-shoot, but...
Totals

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Season	League(s)	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
		81		2281	314	635	.494	215	447	.481	99	188	.527	.664	113	133	.850	69	168	237	122	59	6	93	200	956
2011-12	Greek A1	24		576	83	158	.525	61	120	.508	22	38	.579	.718	25	27	.926	21	55	76	21	17	0	30	56	252
2013-14	Eurocup	16		546	67	154	.435	44	107	.411	23	47	.489	.578	21	27	.778	9	35	44	24	15	3	12	33	199
2014-15	Eurocup	20		599	94	187	.503	58	115	.504	36	72	.500	.658	44	51	.863	25	53	78	42	19	2	34	51	290
2015-16	Euroleague	21		560	70	136	.515	52	105	.495	18	31	.581	.706	23	28	.821	14	25	39	35	8	1	17	60	215

[SilverSpur]

I read Spurs Reacquired his rights

[noles1983]

just reading those names makes we want to vomit.

[Keepin' it real]

Time to cash in those euro chips.

[Twisted_Dawg]

What about players like Draymond Green, Andrei Kirilenko, Jmmy Butler, Paul Milsap, Danny Green, Trevor Ariza, Isaiah Thomas, Goran Dragic, Marc Gasol, Deandre Jordan, Hassan Whitside, Lou Williams, Wesley Matthews (undrafted) etc. Some were 2nd round draft picks but, they still count.

It's hardly a crapshoot. It's about having good talent evaulators and not settling for draft and stash raw euro trash. Excluding Leonard which they traded up for, their best pick since 2008 was Goerge Hill (pick 26). Yeah, a lot of players don't work out but when you're dealing with the so-called "best of the best" PATFO that never gets it wrong according to the media contingent, they've swung and missed quite a bit.

^^^^^Right here says it all.

The real reason the Spurs draft these guys is that they don't have to pay them anything or count against the cap. So they take a flyer on the foreign draft choices. It's like throwing mud up on a wall and seeing if anything sticks. No risk, maybe a return.

Unfortunately the fans get caught up in the hype and the explanation that the FO gives about their skills and then blows it up in their minds that the guy is another potential Ginobilli or Parker. We found two of those quality guys in almost 20 years.

^^^^^And right here.

[Plumblbw]

Sadly, give that body and athleticism to Matt Bonner and we have an all-star

ing waste of great genes tbh

This is a spot on assessment of this bum. Richards grew up about 10 miles from where I live and being a local boy I really wanted him to make it in the NBA.

You know when he can't even stick on a team in the Micronesia under 11 girl's team that there's no hope for him. He has a sh1t at ude and listening to him interviewed he's chav s .

As I'm sure most had a long time ago, forget this mug exists.

[Obstructed_View]

He never was a prospect. No defense and a really, really, bad shooter. It's funny because shooting was what he was "known for" coming out of college. He was a bully in High School, reminded me a lot of what Evan Turner was doing in the NCAA - Green type of junk scorer. Came to college, did not hit the weight room - stayed fat - became reliant on not creating his own jumpshot. Terrible defender.

This is pretty spot-on. He is a clever scorer near the basket, in that he can get shots off without having to elevate. He basically lived off physically dominating his compe ion. Once he got to the NBA level, the caliber of the compe ion ate up any abilities that he had.

[Chinook]

This is pretty spot-on. He is a clever scorer near the basket, in that he can get shots off without having to elevate. He basically lived off physically dominating his compe ion. Once he got to the NBA level, the caliber of the compe ion ate up any abilities that he had.

Thomas barely played at an NBA level, and that had almost everything to do with being the 20th man on the Spurs rather than him being worse than guys like Reggie Williams. He was fine in the summer league and was well above average in the d-league (arguably the Toros' best player). I don't disagree that he doesn't have the physical tools to play in the NBA. But he seems capable of being a great player at the second level.

[exstatic]

Thomas barely played at an NBA level, and that had almost everything to do with being the 20th man on the Spurs rather than him being worse than guys like Reggie Williams. He was fine in the summer league and was well above average in the d-league (arguably the Toros' best player). I don't disagree that he doesn't have the physical tools to play in the NBA. But he seems capable of being a great player at the second level.

Pssssh. Look at DT's d-league numbers, and then compare them against ST's favorite whipping boy Kyle Anderson. There is no comparison. Kyle DOMINATED at the d-league level. DT will never even be a really good d-league player.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pssssh. Look at DT's d-league numbers, and then compare them against ST's favorite whipping boy Kyle Anderson. There is no comparison. Kyle DOMINATED at the d-league level. DT will never even be a really good d-league player.

Kyle Anderson D-League Per 36:
19.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.3apg, 1.8spg, 1.3bpg, 3.0TO, 44.7FG%

Deshaun Thomas D-League Per 36:
18.3ppg, 7.7rpg, 2.8apg, 0.7spg, 0.5bpg, 2.0TO, 51.8FG%

Kyle was the 30th pick, Deshaun Thomas was the 58th. Kyle gets playoff minutes, Thomas isn't even on the roster. Both didn't dominate anything, they're both trash and shouldn't be on the roster.

[jyra]

Lorbek hasnt played in like 2 years now, he is a free agent and i am not sure if he is already retired. If not, he clearly is the better player of them all, even at 32 years old, is big, fundamental and has a reliable outside shot, which could be great to add alongside LA and Kawhi who clog the paint a lot.
I am not sure how retired he is, if he is retired at all, he was forced to skip the previous year due to an injury, and i´m not sure why he didn´t come back. Still i would invite him to the training camp to check him out, is one of the few that could be NBA ready.

He had surgery on both knees. I think at this point it's unlikely that he returns to basketball at all. He was never athletic to begin with but after that he is probably done. Even a healthy Lorbek would have struggled mightily adjusting to the NBA. The guy was probably a worse athlete than Bonner before he injured himself.

[tmtcsc]

just reading those names makes we want to vomit.

Lol, I hear ya.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Sounds like we're basically down to Bertans or Milutinov to bring someone over. I hope they bring one of them - we need to feed these kids into the system and see what they can do.

[Chinook]

Pssssh. Look at DT's d-league numbers, and then compare them against ST's favorite whipping boy Kyle Anderson. There is no comparison. Kyle DOMINATED at the d-league level. DT will never even be a really good d-league player.

First, saying Thomas isn't as good as Anderson means nothing to me. I'm in the first row of the Church of Anderson, even if my "amens" get drowned out by SAGirl's fiery sermons.

Second, as TGY points out, Thomas' per-36 and advanced stats compare favorably to Anderson's, and they are easily better than Simmons'. He's not quick enough to play on the perimeter, and he can't shoot well enough to overcome that. That's why he's not an NBA player. But he's a good scorer and better play-maker than folks seem to believe. He'll get a couple of chances to try to stick, but he may well be one of those guys who has a kid who is a legit NBA player.

[palangi]

Sounds like we're basically down to Bertans or Milutinov to bring someone over. I hope they bring one of them - we need to feed these kids into the system and see what they can do.

Yeah they both need to be brought over and developed state side. Whether it is the NBDL or 10 minutes a game and practice time with the big squad.

[palangi]

First, saying Thomas isn't as good as Anderson means nothing to me. I'm in the first row of the Church of Anderson, even if my "amens" get drowned out by SAGirl's fiery sermons.

Second, as TGY points out, Thomas' per-36 and advanced stats compare favorably to Anderson's, and they are easily better than Simmons'. He's not quick enough to play on the perimeter, and he can't shoot well enough to overcome that. That's why he's not an NBA player. But he's a good scorer and better play-maker than folks seem to believe. He'll get a couple of chances to try to stick, but he may well be one of those guys who has a kid who is a legit NBA player.

in baseball terms he sounds like a AAAA player. Right between the big league and AAA.

[cd98]

Kyle Anderson D-League Per 36:
19.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.3apg, 1.8spg, 1.3bpg, 3.0TO, 44.7FG%

Deshaun Thomas D-League Per 36:
18.3ppg, 7.7rpg, 2.8apg, 0.7spg, 0.5bpg, 2.0TO, 51.8FG%

Kyle was the 30th pick, Deshaun Thomas was the 58th. Kyle gets playoff minutes, Thomas isn't even on the roster. Both didn't dominate anything, they're both trash and shouldn't be on the roster.

Jimmer was better than both those guys in the D-League. I don't think we can use the D League as a measure of NBA success.

[UZER]

:Pop: These playoffs aren't for any of them.


Hope you guys are ready for that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Jimmer was better than both those guys in the D-League. I don't think we can use the D League as a measure of NBA success.

Exactly. Kyle, like Jimmer, doesn't have the athleticism and discipline it takes to be in the NBA.

Luckily for Kyle, Pop loves him like he loves Matty

[palangi]

Jimmer was better than both those guys in the D-League. I don't think we can use the D League as a measure of NBA success.

Jimmer is only good at shooting. That's it. He isn't any better than those two. Only scoring doesn't make you good. He struggles to score at the NBA level because of athleticism and length of players.

[palangi]

Exactly. Kyle, like Jimmer, doesn't have the athleticism and discipline it takes to be in the NBA.

Luckily for Kyle, Pop loves him like he loves Matty

Not exactly at all!