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    I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later. We cannot have a president that is a loose cannon at the lips. Are yall OK with that? The US will be an embarrassment the world over if Trump is elected. Just sayin. One of my biggest fears is that Trump does not know the political outlook and just understand business and going off about isht he doesnt care for. God forbid if we have to make a national decision to go to war or to intervene in our allies issues. This could all be a huge trainwreck.
    Not afraid at all.

    I fear for this nation if Hillary wins.

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    Trump, Hillary, Sanders....any could be a train wreck. Bernie is the only one who seems honest and not slimy. But I don't think I agree with most of his policies.
    Same here, but at least the man has integrity.

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    You're asking a forum with Texans. Most of these hicks beat their s to their cousin's Facebook pictures. They're scared of science, POC, and running out of sun screen to protect their pasty balding heads.

    Of course they ain't scared of Trump. They have their bible


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    Trump is a walking, talking IQ test that many have already failed - this thread is a great example of the flavors of Trumpism

    Type 1: the fearful (ducks, rmt, spurtech) who've been inundated with talk radio / Fox news to believe that Obama has undermined America and Hillary will finish the job
    Type 2: the angry (Dirk, Wild Cobra) who think others (Muslims, Hispanics, blacks, SJWs, gays, Jews, academia) are to blame for whatever is wrong, and Trump will lead underachieving white males to victory and set things right
    Type 3: the so-called intellectuals (Cosmic, maybe Teysha) who normally lean right based on conservative principles (smaller government, lower taxes, moral values, individual liberties, states rights), who find themselves defending an unprincipled, amoral, childish, know-nothing con artist who has no interest in conservatism.

    Types 1 and 2 won't change. They have cheered Trump even as he insulted the military, slammed GOP economic and foreign policy, flip-flopped, verifiably lied and used vulgar insults. At this point they would vote for Satan if he had an (R) after his name.

    There is still hope for Type 3. At some point they will realize (if they haven't already) that the worst-case scenario with Trump is worse than what any candidate in the last 50 years offered. Embracing him would mean accepting that conservatism was a sham all along. Let's see whether they end up putting party before country.

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    The only facet of Trump that appeals to me is the ongoing fracturization of the GOP. Hope Bernie has balls to continue to shake up the DNC.

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    That is worth 4 years of Trump imo.

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    The only facet of Trump that appeals to me is the ongoing fracturization of the GOP. Hope Bernie has balls to continue to shake up the DNC.
    Help me understand this. The Trump nomination has already fractured the party: Paul Ryan condemned Trump's latest outburst as racist, at least 3 GOP senators have said they oppose Trump, 4 out of the last 5 GOP nominees for President won't attend the convention, many other Republicans are going to avoid offering an endorsement.

    What more do you think a Trump presidency will achieve? And is it worth giving that much power to a man of Trump's ignorance and thin skin? Even as a nominee, he's trying to smear a judge and influence a lawsuit - what do you think he will do with the full power of the US military and intelligence services?

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    That is worth 4 years of Trump imo.
    Trump plus a Repug Congress will make EVERYTHING much worse.

    Politicians run for office to become (more) wealthy from BigCorp donors and insider dealing, no matter the solid or fractured state of either party.

    BigCorp and esp BigFinance, owners of politicians at all levels, will continue looting America. They are unstoppable.

    The only countervailing power against BigCorp and BigFinance is government, and government has been corrupted, compromised, infiltrated, captures by the oligarchy.

    Repugs have figured they can still protect and increase their wealth with Trash as Pres. Just look at his tax cuts on the wealthy.

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    Help me understand this. The Trump nomination has already fractured the party: Paul Ryan condemned Trump's latest outburst as racist, at least 3 GOP senators have said they oppose Trump, 4 out of the last 5 GOP nominees for President won't attend the convention, many other Republicans are going to avoid offering an endorsement.

    What more do you think a Trump presidency will achieve? And is it worth giving that much power to a man of Trump's ignorance and thin skin? Even as a nominee, he's trying to smear a judge and influence a lawsuit - what do you think he will do with the full power of the US military and intelligence services?
    I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster- and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.

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    I have the mindset that I'll do well no matter who's President. I prospered even when Bush's administration took a flamethrower to this country I think I can survive whatever Trump dishes out. The only way I would be concerned is if I was in the military. You have to be concerned about religious nutjobs or privileged chickenhawks controlling the military. These people usually have never seen a day of war in their lives and seem to give two s about haphazardly chucking troops into war to satisfy their egos or holy crusade. Trump is another man-child blowhard who can probably be easily goaded into another war because he'll feel that he has to back up his tough talk.

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    I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster- and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.
    Won't the party moderates be better placed to regain their collective voice if Trump loses in a landslide and the extremist fringe gets a rude awakening? If Trump wins, the takeover of the GOP by the nutcases will be complete - there will be no room for moderates.

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    The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.

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    We survived 8 years of bush Cheney. Barely but survived.

    Trump presidency would be cake.

    I am actually more afraid of a ambassadorkilla presidency

    She managed to get our ambassodr killed while at state dept. Wonder how much American blood will be spilled when if she were at the wh

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    ... astro-turfers financed by Kock Bros.

    Kock Bros, etc are concentrating on keeping their fully owned far right, strict obstructionist ideologue red state/slave state s in Congress, by concentrating on the down-ticket races.

    They and other billionaires, BigCorp, BigFinance have the many $Bs to do it, will get ROI in the 100s, aided by Repug gerrymandering and voter suppression by the very Repugs whom Kock, etc put in power. aka "safe seats"

    They will succeed.

    the Repug base "revolting" and voting for Trash will continue to be screwed, since a Pres Trash wouldn't do anything for them.

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    The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.
    Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the cons ution.

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    We survived 8 years of bush Cheney. Barely but survived.

    Trump presidency would be cake.

    I am actually more afraid of a ambassadorkilla presidency

    She managed to get our ambassodr killed while at state dept. Wonder how much American blood will be spilled when if she were at the wh

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    Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the cons ution.
    Why do you hate America?

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    Hillary wants you to be afraid... be very afraid. It shifts focus away from how terrible she is. And while she may have accepted campaign contributions from Trump, done favors for him behind the scenes, and even attended his wedding... he is a horrible racist and we must elect her for the good of the country.

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    I have the mindset that I'll do well no matter who's President. I prospered even when Bush's administration took a flamethrower to this country I think I can survive whatever Trump dishes out. The only way I would be concerned is if I was in the military. You have to be concerned about religious nutjobs or privileged chickenhawks controlling the military. These people usually have never seen a day of war in their lives and seem to give two s about haphazardly chucking troops into war to satisfy their egos or holy crusade. Trump is another man-child blowhard who can probably be easily goaded into another war because he'll feel that he has to back up his tough talk.
    Hillary is the chickenhawk this election cycle.

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    I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster- and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.
    The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.

    I'm going to vote for Trump for the same reasons although even the Trump takeover doesn't give me much optimism the the GOP moderates will grow a backbone. If they were capable of standing up to the extreme right they would have let the very good Senate immigration bill pass and put the issue to bed. Actually when you put the Trump rhetoric aside his immigration stance (build a wall, reform the immigration system, and a touchback provision for legal status) is more moderate than what Romney proposed (build a fence, reform the immigration system, self deportation for illegals).

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    Republicans have lost the Latino vote forever when they embraced Trump.

    They've never had the black vote to begin with.
    Latinos vote for socialist bull anyway. It was pointless to begin with. Democrats are intent on importing enough immigrants to make it impossible for whitey to vote them out. That's the real issue here. The left has been been waging demographic warfare against the white majority for 50+ years, and whitey's legitimate political avenues for dealing with it are drying up.

    25 years ago, the good people of Commiefornia asked pretty please with a cherry on top in the form of Prop 187. It was passed 59/41. One of Carter's Federal judges struck it down. How progressive.

    25 years later, it's "build a ing wall."

    Wanna guess what the next 25 years will bring?

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    Tough .

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    He isn't carrying minorities or women. I don't see him winning particularly due to the latter. You can wave your hands at a Fox News poll from April to try and make it seem interesting but Trump doesn't even have his party behind him as they are worried about the legislative ballot where another of their in bents just got primaried.

    Go dark money!

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    Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the cons ution.
    No. Just more than one party. If the GOP splinters, as I hope, then the DNC will reign for an extended period. No question about that.

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