Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Mal]

You're not thinking long-term, big picture. With 3 years in the Spurs system he might be Porzingas. Spurs need to start developing some youth with high upside.

If we get Maker at #29 I'll be ecstatic!

And then when he starts producing, he`s gone, just like CoJo

[cjw]

And then when he starts producing, he`s gone, just like CoJo

CoJo would still be a Spur if not for the Lamarcus chase last summer (in retrospect, maybe team should have picked him over Mills). Simply a casualty of cap space needing to be created. Toronto also paid him handily, so there's a chance the Spurs knew the offer sheet was incoming and decided to cut bait then.

[TheGoldStandard]

You're not thinking long-term, big picture. With 3 years in the Spurs system he might be Porzingas. Spurs need to start developing some youth with high upside.

If we get Maker at #29 I'll be ecstatic!

I would love this move but the Spurs will opt for some obscure undersized guard, a big man who's 4 years away from being 2 years away. Some short guy for his position with long arms who can't dribble a ball.

[tholdren]

You're not thinking long-term, big picture. With 3 years in the Spurs system he might be Porzingas. Spurs need to start developing some youth with high upside.

If we get Maker at #29 I'll be ecstatic!

Iq of 3

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Parker/MCW/Youngblood
Green/Simmons/Manu
Leonard/SloMo/Youngblood
LMA/Diaw/Bertans
Timmy/Boban/Plumlee

Something like this makes a lot of sense to me for 2016. Play the youth big minutes, Manu and Timmy stick around to mentor them and have a farewell tour, we take a step back in 2016...

...then a big step forward in 2017 when MCW, Simmons, SloMo and Bertans blossom. Tim, Manu and Pop then ride off into the sunset together, the FO trades TP's expiring, and we have capspace to make a run at whomever we want.

It's fun to dream.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker/MCW/Youngblood
Green/Simmons/Manu
Leonard/SloMo/Youngblood
LMA/Diaw/Bertans
Timmy/Boban/Plumlee

Something like this makes a lot of sense to me for 2016. Play the youth big minutes, Manu and Timmy stick around to mentor them and have a farewell tour, we take a step back in 2016...

...then a big step forward in 2017 when MCW, Simmons, SloMo and Bertans blossom. Tim, Manu and Pop then ride off into the sunset together, the FO trades TP's expiring, and we have capspace to make a run at whomever we want.

It's fun to dream.

That second unit might make a three once every 3 games

If MCW would to get his shooting hand ran over, have Dumbbells chained to his feet, have a 6 inch forehead, and his shorts up to his chest.... That would be Kyle Anderson. No point in having both play at the same time

[palangi]

I don't mind this. I bolded a couple changes I would make though. First off send Diaw on his way. Anderson is the same player and takes over for him. I would also have Bertans as a 3 as he is a better athlete than Anderson. then put Lalanne in at the PF spot too. I'd like to see us buy back into the 2nd round and get Caris Lavert from Michigan. A 6'6" PG with good shooting skills and defensive skills.

Parker/MCW/Lavert
Green/Simmons/Manu
Leonard/Bertans/Youngblood
LMA/SloMo/Lalanne
Timmy/Boban/Plumlee

Something like this makes a lot of sense to me for 2016. Play the youth big minutes, Manu and Timmy stick around to mentor them and have a farewell tour, we take a step back in 2016...

...then a big step forward in 2017 when MCW, Simmons, SloMo and Bertans blossom. Tim, Manu and Pop then ride off into the sunset together, the FO trades TP's expiring, and we have capspace to make a run at whomever we want.

It's fun to dream.

[tbdog]

^ that team is worse. The decline of Manu, TD, and Manu are too much for such little and minor changes. And if we didnt have enough shootiing already, removing Mills for MCW and demoting Manu behind Simmons is a disaster.

[Ditty]

My top choices:

1A: Durant
1B: Horford

If you can't get them only go after Conley if you're going to get rid of Parker. He will come here if we offer him a reasonable contract. My ideal candidates after that is to go after Bazemore, Amir Johnson, Courtney Lee, Mahinmi, Crabee(Would be really nice or Fournier), Vasquez, Speights , Marvin Williams, Barnes to solidify your bench with some good postseason experience out of all these guys. Could probably get two of them if we get rid of Diaw.

[palangi]

^ that team is worse. The decline of Manu, TD, and Manu are too much for such little and minor changes. And if we didnt have enough shootiing already, removing Mills for MCW and demoting Manu behind Simmons is a disaster.

The decline of Manu, TD, and Manu, huh?

and Simmons had a better percentage than Manu last year.

[tbdog]

Parker*

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That second unit might make a three once every 3 games

If MCW would to get his shooting hand ran over, have Dumbbells chained to his feet, have a 6 inch forehead, and his shorts up to his chest.... That would be Kyle Anderson. No point in having both play at the same time

Decent point. It was just a rough outline, and assumes improvement. Many players blossom in their 3rd-5th season.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I don't mind this. I bolded a couple changes I would make though. First off send Diaw on his way. Anderson is the same player and takes over for him. I would also have Bertans as a 3 as he is a better athlete than Anderson. then put Lalanne in at the PF spot too. I'd like to see us buy back into the 2nd round and get Caris Lavert from Michigan. A 6'6" PG with good shooting skills and defensive skills.

Full youth movement. Makes sense to me.

Some other replies missed the central point: it's a poor FA class, we don't have much capspace, so it's a great year to develop the youth and look towards a big move in 2017.

We're finally at the stage where we have to rebuild with a big injection of youth. 38yos aren't gonna keep us relevant any more.

[TheGoldStandard]

Full youth movement. Makes sense to me.

Some other replies missed the central point: it's a poor FA class, we don't have much capspace, so it's a great year to develop the youth and look towards a big move in 2017.

We're finally at the stage where we have to rebuild with a big injection of youth. 38yos aren't gonna keep us relevant any more.

I have no patience for Rookies.. I wonder if Jason Terry wants to win one for Timmy

[TheGreatYacht]

I have no patience for Rookies.. I wonder if Jason Terry wants to win one for Timmy

These Pop quotes kill me every time

.... Because he would say like this tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Decent point. It was just a rough outline, and assumes improvement. Many players blossom in their 3rd-5th season.

Move Kyle for a shooter and that team is ready

[r0drig0lac]

These Pop quotes kill me every time

.... Because he would say like this tbh

sad but true

[SAGirl]

Full youth movement. Makes sense to me.

Some other replies missed the central point: it's a poor FA class, we don't have much capspace, so it's a great year to develop the youth and look towards a big move in 2017.

We're finally at the stage where we have to rebuild with a big injection of youth. 38yos aren't gonna keep us relevant any more.

That's a great point.
Some like GSH have advocated the youth movement with an intention to minitank a season. I just don't believe a youth movement like that will result in a tank that will get us a lottery pick, mainly bc I believe our core is good enough to still win a lot of RS games anyways and our young players are not as bad as some make them out to be.

Let's keep in mind Timmy, Manu and Tony looked washed up towards the end of the season anyways and Kawhi and LMA dragged the team up. It's better for them to drag young role players if they must bc a few of those guys will get significantly better with more opportunities and we will end up with a better team at the end of the season than we started with bc of youthful improvement, as opposed to worse bc old players break down midseason and are overwhelmed in the postseason. (Shout out to GSH! )

It's time to find out who of our recent draft picks, the stashes, the dleague projects are going to make it, develop these guys + add a young role player here or there to find out if they still have upside.

Unlike you I am not high on MCW at all, but if he proves to bust hard he can be let go in the off season. I think there are other young PG projects in the league we could go after like Tyus Jones, but I really don't see Pop moving on from Patty. What I can see happening is Patty playing off the ball more and Anderson used as more of a playmaker.

[loveforthegame]

[SAGirl]

Yay!!!! Youthful movement!
They must have someone in mind bc you don't move up just to move up, they must ha e a target. I wonder who.

[Nathan89]

Don't really see what we would trade to move up in the draft. I want Denzel Valentine.

[Robz4000]

Don't really see what we would trade to move up in the draft. I want Denzel Valentine.

They own all their future picks, and LDN/Fathead might be appealing to some teams.

[spursistan]

well, well, sounds like they have an eye on somebody..

[TheGoldStandard]

Yay!!!! Youthful movement!
They must have someone in mind bc you don't move up just to move up, they must ha e a target. I wonder who.

There are a couple of good prospects in between 10 - 20 we can stash in Europe for a few seasons.

[SAGirl]

There are a couple of good prospects in between 10 - 20 we can stash in Europe for a few seasons.

right. I wonder too who they are considering trading to move up. Other than Tony or Danny we don't have guys that would move the needle up anyways that we could spare, and we can hardly spare them. It seems a rumor as likely as the Durant, Conley rumors.