Mass shooting in Orlando

[RD2191]

CNN "Gunman pro-isis" I can't even...

[Ghazi]

its Russia and Iran that are kicking ISIS's ass ironically. USA isnt even at war with their own stepchild

[CosmicCowboy]

Yup ISIS is a jke. Yet CNN FOX etc keep being their marketing department by keep mentioning them.

CNN, FOX = ISIS

Oh yeah. Clearly the JV team.

So glad you guys told us that Islamic Terrorism is virtually defeated and will end soon.

[Splits]

Definitely had a semi-auto with clips that could hold more than 20 rounds

http://m.wesh.com/news/multiple-guns...video/40018078

[Ghazi]

Oh yeah. Clearly the JV team.

So glad you guys told us that Islamic Terrorism is virtually defeated and will end soon.

This wasnt an act of terrorism. Terrorism has political undertones. This was just a hate crime by a basketcase. W

[DPG21920]

I agree he was some phobic sick person but he's also claiming ISIS himself was he not?

[Spurminator]

This wasnt an act of terrorism. Terrorism has political undertones. This was just a hate crime by a basketcase. W

Individual basket cases can still commit terrorism.

[DPG21920]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ

This is a video from April in Orlando making rounds

The local mosque had a speaker that was caught on film talking about killing gays. 2 months before this happened.

[Ghazi]

I agree he was some phobic sick person but he's also claiming ISIS himself was he not?

He claimed allegiance to ISIS, whatever that might mean... but as Ive said ISIs is getting its ass kicked right now in Syria and Iraq, if he was so dedicated he would go over there and join a losing cause rather than shoot up a random night club

[DPG21920]

I have not seen confirmed but is it true Isis now taking credit?

[DPG21920]

He claimed allegiance to ISIS, whatever that might mean... but as Ive said ISIs is getting its ass kicked right now in Syria and Iraq, if he was so dedicated he would go over there and join a losing cause rather than shoot up a random night club

You may think that way logically but that doesn't make it true. I'm just saying that I don't understand people mocking news outlets for associating this with Isis when the killer himself said this.

That doesn't mean it was not motivated by being phobic. That doesn't mean it should be the only area discussed. But the killer went out of their way to claim Isis.

[Spurminator]

I'm pretty impressed by the transparency of the updates on the ongoing investigation so far.

[IceColdBrewski]

FBI has had their eye on this guy for years now. Clearly this was something way more than just some guy who snapped after watching a gay couple kiss.

[Ghazi]

You may think that way logically but that doesn't make it true. I'm just saying that I don't understand people mocking news outlets for associating this with Isis when the killer himself said this.

That doesn't mean it was not motivated by being phobic. That doesn't mean it should be the only area discussed. But the killer went out of their way to claim Isis.

Id say he was inspired by ISIS but i doubt ISIS gave him orders to commit this act.

[DPG21920]

Id say he was inspired by ISIS but i doubt ISIS gave him orders to commit this act.

I don't disagree. I could see Isis taking credit after to rally the troops but I'm saying the connection shouldn't be dismissed with this much noise.

[angrydude]

It is the religion's fault. It's pretty plain that if you're muslim, it is socially acceptable to be a mass murderer as long as you do it for the "right" reasons.

[angrydude]

I'm sure gun control would have stopped this premeditated act that he had clearly planned for weeks. Stronger gun control laws would have prevented him from blowing up a suicide vest or other type of bomb to even more lethal effect.

[DPG21920]

I'm sure gun control would have stopped this premeditated act that he had clearly planned for weeks. Stronger gun control laws would have prevented him from blowing up a suicide vest or other type of bomb to even more lethal effect.

Why does that matter? Even if stricter gun laws would not have stopped this why is it not a good idea to have people on a terrorist watch list banned from buying guns??

[angrydude]

Why does that matter? Even if stricter gun laws would not have stopped this why is it not a good idea to have people on a terrorist watch list banned from buying guns??

Due process of law? BTW, there are probably more people on the terrorist watch list--who don't pose a threat--than you think.

[djohn2oo8]

Why does that matter? Even if stricter gun laws would not have stopped this why is it not a good idea to have people on a terrorist watch list banned from buying guns??

this

[Spurminator]

It is the religion's fault. It's pretty plain that if you're muslim, it is socially acceptable to be a mass murderer as long as you do it for the "right" reasons.

It's pretty plain that you don't know any Muslims.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't disagree. I could see Isis taking credit after to rally the troops but I'm saying the connection shouldn't be dismissed with this much noise.

This. he claimed them so they see an opportunity to rally the troops as you said.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Due process of law? BTW, there are probably more people on the terrorist watch list--who don't pose a threat--than you think.

Then correct that. That still doesn't mean people on it should be able to get guns. All you are doing is mindlessly parroting the NRA's policy to drum up demand at every opportunity.

[Ghazi]

Im probably on the terrorist watch list for s sake

[Clipper Nation]

Mateen's father is a Taliban sympathizer:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...3845&tid=ss_tw

Won't stop the left from grasping at straws to deny the obvious here. "But, but, muh NRA!"