Mass shooting in Orlando

[TheSanityAnnex]

Libs have no problem welcoming Muslim refugees to the US as long as they have the ability to deny them cons utional rights.

[TheSanityAnnex]

There are other ways, sure. But they're not as effective--for most people. For different reasons. When they get it right, it wrecks havoc (eg Baston Marathon). But a whole lot have been thwarted or weren't made properly.

I have an idea.

If you can't meet an agreed upon IQ score, can't pass a mental health evaluation, or have a criminal record, then you can't own a gun.

I'm not suggesting at all this one law would end gun violence--it wouldn't--but it's a start. It'd weed out some of them from happening, I believe.

That law would have to work in conjunction with other laws to have a serious effect. It's a complicated problem with no easy solution.

Orlando shooter went through that and more, yearly.

[boutons_deux]

TSA no problem with cops slaughtering (unarmed) knitters, but watch list errors? horrors!

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA no problem with cops slaughtering (unarmed) knitters, but watch list errors? horrors!

You can't pick and choose when to apply rights.

[djohn2oo8]

What crimes did they commit? Charge them a with crime and then they won't pass background checks. Furthermore "Nearly half of the people on the U.S. government’s widely shared database of terrorist suspects are not connected to any known terrorist group, according to classified government do ents obtained by The Intercept."

Sounds like the background checks are not intense enough. Damn being tied to a terrorist group. If you are found to have any anti US sentiments, make threats against the US, you should stay on the list permanently. See, when that doesn't happen, you have shootings like this and the Boston marathon bombing.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA no problem with cops slaughtering (unarmed) knitters, but watch list errors? horrors!

Right.

[CosmicCowboy]

Sounds like the background checks are not intense enough. Damn being tied to a terrorist group. If you are found to have any anti US sentiments, make threats against the US, you should stay on the list permanently. See, when that doesn't happen, you have shootings like this and the Boston marathon bombing.

Boutons would be on the list based on your criteria.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sounds like the background checks are not intense enough. Damn being tied to a terrorist group. If you are found to have any anti US sentiments, make threats against the US, you should stay on the list permanently. See, when that doesn't happen, you have shootings like this and the Boston marathon bombing.

This guy went through multiple background checks, psych evals etc to become licensed to carry as an armed guard. Sounds like your complaint should be directed at the FBI for not sharing this information with the state of Florida. An NICS can't check for what is not on file.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Boutons would be on the list based on your criteria.

No joke he most likely is.

[djohn2oo8]

This guy went through multiple background checks, psych evals etc to become licensed to carry as an armed guard. Sounds like your complaint should be directed at the FBI for not sharing this information with the state of Florida. An NICS can't check for what is not on file.

Fair enough.

[resistanze]

http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-wa...d-h-1781920316

[z0sa]

http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-wa...d-h-1781920316

No surprise. His own radical values and beliefs he could not reconcile with his love for buttsex.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't understand why we can't all agree that these ed up shooters suck?

I don't care if they are ty racist white trash shooting up black churches or Jihadi muslim assholes shooting up gay bars.

They all suck.

Unfortunately there is a certain sick percentage of the population that will always suck.

I think that the only long term cure is to forbid the news media to mention names or glorify the shooters in any way.

Instead of mentioning their name call them "this prejudiced white trash piece of " or "this phobic muslim piece of "

Take away the "going down in glory" option for these ing losers.

[Spurminator]

I don't understand why we can't all agree that these ed up shooters suck?

I think we do. It's just that we differ on WHY they suck, and any possible reasons for their suckiness that might be in common with any aspect of our lives must be immediately thrown out as irrelevant.

Unfortunately there is a certain sick percentage of the population that will always suck.

I think that the only long term cure is to forbid the news media to mention names or glorify the shooters in any way.

If only that were possible. It's an ideal premise but in reality what this leads to is the information getting out through fringe news outlets anyway while at the same time making it easy for other fringe outlets to completely fabricate things about the shooter.

[CosmicCowboy]

I think we do. It's just that we differ on WHY they suck, and any possible reasons for their suckiness that might be in common with any aspect of our lives must be immediately thrown out as irrelevant.



If only that were possible. It's an ideal premise but in reality what this leads to is the information getting out through fringe news outlets anyway while at the same time making it easy for other fringe outlets to completely fabricate things about the shooter.

Fringe media like he really wasn't a muslim and was just frustrated with his lack of butt sex?

[djohn2oo8]

http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-wa...d-h-1781920316

Yep said it at the beginning of the thread. Dude was a repressed sexual. Well not so repressed with his gay dating app

[Spurminator]

Fringe media like he really wasn't a muslim and was just frustrated with his lack of butt sex?

I don't know enough about that story to form an opinion yet. I'm skeptical of anything coming from Gawker.

Regardless, there's always going to be fringe media, so the benefit of reliable media is to focus discussion on news with merit, even if they're not always perfect. Otherwise, all you have are the Gawkers and Breitbarts and worse.

[djohn2oo8]

Fringe media like he really wasn't a muslim and was just frustrated with his lack of butt sex?

If he had been going to that club for years, it adds credibility to the story.

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Takes Conspiracy Turn After Orlando

Donald Trump waded into the fever swamps on Monday, suggesting in two interviews that President Obama may have a secret agenda that prevents him from combating Islamic terrorists.

The comments added to a long list of conspiracy theories from the presumptive GOP nominee about the president's religion, birthplace and worldview. They also sent a clear message to Republicans who have begged Trump to soften his rhetoric that he's not changing his ways anytime soon.

"Well, there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it," Trump told NBC's "TODAY" on Monday while discussing the attack that killed at least 49 people at a gay club in Orlando over the weekend. "A lot of people think maybe he doesn't want to know about it.

I happen to think that he just doesn't know what he's doing. But there are many people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see what's really happening."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orl...sm_fb_lastword

"a lot of people ..." "many people that think ..."

Hey, all you knitter-hatin redneck dogs, Trash is whistling for y'all.

[Th'Pusher]

Donald Trump Takes Conspiracy Turn After Orlando

Donald Trump waded into the fever swamps on Monday, suggesting in two interviews that President Obama may have a secret agenda that prevents him from combating Islamic terrorists.

The comments added to a long list of conspiracy theories from the presumptive GOP nominee about the president's religion, birthplace and worldview. They also sent a clear message to Republicans who have begged Trump to soften his rhetoric that he's not changing his ways anytime soon.

"Well, there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it," Trump told NBC's "TODAY" on Monday while discussing the attack that killed at least 49 people at a gay club in Orlando over the weekend. "A lot of people think maybe he doesn't want to know about it.

I happen to think that he just doesn't know what he's doing. But there are many people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see what's really happening."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orl...sm_fb_lastword

"a lot of people ..." "many people that think ..."

Hey, all you knitter-hatin redneck dogs, Trash is whistling for y'all.

I think he's just saying Obama is soft on IS

[boutons_deux]

The Orlando massacre was one of 43 shootings yesterday




http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/1192329...un-violence-us

[spurraider21]

Chiraq

[TheSanityAnnex]

The Orlando massacre was one of 43 shootings yesterday




http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/1192329...un-violence-us

Keep me updated on thinkprogress.com's revised right wing terrorists vs Islamic terrorist body count article you so frequently liked spam.

[boutons_deux]

Muslim terrorists in USA are really pussies compared to your beloved rightwing terrorists, that your beloved rightwing hate media never spotlights.

[spurraider21]

Tbh it's nice to see Republicans actually pretending to care about the guy community. The biggest mass shooting in US history was all it took