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    Tearful Gun Manufacturers Thankful They All Made It Out Of Massacre Safely

    WASHINGTON—Expressing their immense relief at their good fortune, the nation’s gun manufacturers tearfully told reporters Tuesday they were thankful to have made it out of the Orlando massacre safely.

    “It’s truly a miracle that all of us got through this okay,” said visibly distraught Colt’s Manufacturing CEO Dennis Veilleux, who frequently choked up while voicing his gra ude that U.S. firearms producers were now free from the danger posed by the mass shooting.

    “There was a point back there where I honestly feared the worst, and I had no idea if [Smith & Wesson CEO] James [Debney], [Bushmaster CEO] George [Kollitides], and everyone else would be all right. Now that this nightmare’s over, all I can do is thank God for keeping us out of harm’s way.”

    The gun manufacturers went on to praise the NRA for the courage and grit they displayed in quickly responding to such a traumatic crisis.

    http://www.theonion.com/article/tearful-gun-manufacturers-thankful-they-all-made-i-53133


    of course you put the link in the smallest font possible and make it blend in with the background.

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    I think it's time to stop lumping shootings like Sandy Hook and Orlando under the same "Mass Killing" umbrella as gang warfare where two or more people are killed.

    I have no problem with focusing on preventing massacres of innocents like these using weapons that the vast majority of people should never need to own.
    like, how?

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    what does due process mean to you, pgardn?

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    Like limiting access and use of weapons that make it easy to kill dozens of people before anything can be done about it.

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    the terror watch list/no fly list are stupid
    fify

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    Like limiting access and use of weapons that make it easy to kill dozens of people before anything can be done about it.
    how are existing regs inadequate?

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    are you cool with denying citizens their rights without due process based on mere su ion?

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    how are existing regs inadequate?
    They allow people to own, for recreational use, weapons that make it easy to kill dozens of people before anything can be done about it.

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    They allow people to own, for recreational use, weapons that make it easy to kill dozens of people before anything can be done about it.
    seems to me the stronger case is to be made for limiting access to handguns, which in the aggregate are far more dangerous, but ok: what would reasonable limitations on semi-automatic weapons look like?

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    seems to me the stronger case is to be made for limiting access to handguns, which in the aggregate are far more dangerous, but ok: what would reasonable limitations on semi-automatic weapons look like?
    I think it's easier to make the argument that handguns are necessary for self defense due to their portability but I'm certainly open to figuring out how to reduce their presence on the streets. For now, I'm content to focus on preventing the larger-scale shootings.

    Ideally, I would like to see semi-automatic weapons limited to rental at gun ranges and for hunting. Ownership should be banned. If that's not reasonable then let's just start with requiring federal registration and closing the gun show loophole. , I'd even be willing to open up sales across state lines if they're federally registered.

    While we're at it, repeal the ey Amendment.

    Here's how problem solving works: You agree on an objective, then you develop the tactics and steps to achieve that objective. We can't do anything to prevent further massacres like this because we can't even agree to pursue this simple objective (or even fund studies that could help prioritize or develop the tactics to do so) because the NRA has congress by the balls.

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    that's very well put

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    The gunshow loophole seems to be the most egregious and readily addressable. Start there.

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    Winehole:

    NH3NO3 does not need due process, it's fertilizer, but can be used for bombs and is followed closely when people other than farmers etc buy it in large quan ies. This is common sense. Actually most farmers have switched fertilizers.

    I said nothing about using lists to keep people from flying because the list that is faulty and done with little investigation or care, and the people have no chance to explain. I think people who buy large amounts of materials used to make bombs should be asked what they are doing with all this Ammonium Nitrate. Is there anything wrong with this?

    Its too too easy for a single nutty person to kill large numbers of people quickly. So we follow the chemical. If you buy unusual amounts someone will eventually question you.

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    They allow people to own, for recreational use, weapons that make it easy to kill dozens of people before anything can be done about it.
    What percentage of gun homicides each year are committed with these semi auto rifles? What type of firearm did the Virginia Tech shooter use?

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    The gunshow loophole seems to be the most egregious and readily addressable. Start there.
    Go to your next local gun show, try and buy a gun without having to pass a background check, report back.

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    Go to your next local gun show, try and buy a gun without having to pass a background check, report back.
    California and other states have expanded their gun laws to include gun shows. He lives in Texas where those laws don't exist. For someone who likes to yap about gun control laws you are pretty ignorant.

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    California and other states have expanded their gun laws to include gun shows. He lives in Texas where those laws don't exist. For someone who likes to yap about gun control laws you are pretty ignorant.
    I don't care what state you live in, take your got ass to a gun show and try and purchase a gun without a background check, report back.

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    I don't care what state you live in, take your got ass to a gun show and try and purchase a gun without a background check, report back.
    Already been done. Bought my Beretta that way. Now off.

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    What percentage of gun homicides each year are committed with these semi auto rifles? What type of firearm did the Virginia Tech shooter use?
    I already addressed focusing on large scale mass shootings vs. every gun homicide.

    I think you know what the VT shooter used, and you know what the Newtown, Aurora, San Bernardino and Orlando shooters used as well.

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    FBI investigators so far have not turned up persuasive evidence that Orlando gunman Omar Mateen was gay or pursuing gay relationships, according to two government officials familiar with the investigation.

    The FBI began looking into that possibility after media reports last week quoted men as saying that Omar Mateen had reached out to them on gay dating apps and had frequented the gay nightclub where the June 12 massacre took place. One man claimed to be Mateen's gay lover in an interview with Univision that aired this week, while another recalled Mateen as a regular at the Pulse club who tried to pick up men.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/3393d3b1376b48c1bf13df8824792913

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    Already been done. Bought my Beretta that way. Now off.
    State, name of gun show, model of Beretta, and price you paid.

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    lol fuzzy goes to gun shows?

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    I already addressed focusing on large scale mass shootings vs. every gun homicide.

    I think you know what the VT shooter used, and you know what the Newtown, Aurora, San Bernardino and Orlando shooters used as well.
    Why focus on large scale mass shootings when their occurrence is extremely rare and deaths caused by them are less than 1% of all total gun homicides? Why push for another assault weapons ban when the last one was proven to not do a damn thing? Why not as a country focus on where the majority of gun homicides occur and attack the root causes.

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    Why focus on large scale mass shootings when their occurrence is extremely rare and deaths caused by them are less than 1% of all total gun homicides? Why push for another assault weapons ban when the last one was proven to not do a damn thing? Why not as a country focus on where the majority of gun homicides occur and attack the root causes.
    This is what I'm talking about with agreeing on an objective. Anytime someone suggests an area of gun violence can be prevented, it is said that we should focus on a different area. Or no area at all.

    Large scale mass shootings are low hanging fruit. While they may not make up a large percentage of overall gun deaths, the victims in those instances are almost always completely random and completely innocent. And they're not nearly rare enough. Start there. Doing something about it doesn't require a whole lot of sacrifice or compromise compared to preventing deaths caused by more commonly-owned (and more reasonably-owned) guns.
    Last edited by Spurminator; 06-25-2016 at 02:11 PM.

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    Funny also how we don't hear how rare these shootings are when we're talking about keeping Syrian immigrants out of the country though.

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