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How are we even going to afford to pay him $10million? Based off that cap video that was posted, we assumed he would be near 5, are we going to pay luxury tax for Manu?
Just say it TIm.. What are you waiting for? Time to move on..
How are we even going to afford to pay him $10million? Based off that cap video that was posted, we assumed he would be near 5, are we going to pay luxury tax for Manu?
organized article but says nothing new and important tbh
I wonder if west thought he would get a big offer next year or if he played well enough they would not go after gasol and felt disrespected they went after gasol
Always good to read timvp thoughts.
Bums me about Duncan even when the writing was on the wall for awhile.
Disappointed in Manu asking for a raise but it is what it is.
West felt disrespected? Good riddance then.
Going to be an interesting season.
Lord Commander.
Not at all. Tacking on an additional 5M to Manu's cap hold does nothing to the team's ability to sign FA's (meaning, once it was decided he was getting at least as much as his cap hold or more) and the team won't hit the Luxury Tax either.
Thanks, didn't know that.
Stellar post from a forum board friend, the legendary timvp. Glad to see your thoughts and insight, again my friend.
Regarding your Paul Gasol comments, I agree except I think I see as much value coming to the Spurs in interior defense. He produced 2 bpg the last two seasons in Chi-town and that's great stuff for a guy in his mid-30s.
I am also delighted with Anderson's rebounding and overall play despite his limitations in the fast-twitch area. He is becoming a more savvy player all the time and he can rebound, distribute and score versus most any lineup, now.
Good stuff!
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i like Anderson, too
do you think he can be our Magic Johnson??
No, haha. Probably not. He doesn't have that type of personality and leadership command. Not as good a defender either. He's got some similarities to Magic in that he can play the pivot or out on the floor. Also pretty nice court vision and awareness.
I wish!
Never actually sign into my account, I always just lurk around for years and read everyone's comments, but these past couple of days have been intense for a spurs fan. TIMVP good to see you post! It is hard to imagine mentioning the spurs without Duncan. Today will be a sad day if he does indeed retired even though it is something we all saw coming. The future is still bright thanks to Duncan laying the foundation to what is the great organization of the spurs!
Good to hear from you, timvp. Sad news about Duncan. I feel so incredibly grateful for being able to have watched his whole career. He said he'd play 'till the wheels fell off. Looks like they finally have.
I think Gasol will be a brilliant fit. Biggest what if in a while for me - if Gasol had picked the Spurs over Chicago a couple years back...
Ugh... That's tough to read. It's amazing he played as well as he did in his last game despite the physical limitations. I'm still holding out hope Tim forces year 20 but this tidbit makes it seem incredibly unlikely.
Since his "good" knee never responded to rest in the season, I wasn't expecting a miracle in the offseason either. Tough to lose the heart and soul of the team after 19 years and I can't imagine the team as a le contender without him. Still, it's awesome to be a Spurs fan. Most teams are playing for ping pong balls when a legend hangs it up. But the Spurs should still be a top 4 seed in the west and should still be playing some awesome basketball. This team should probably still win in the neighborhood of 55 games, which I would have never believed would happen when Tim retired if you told me a few years ago.-The End. I apologize for burying the lede but it's difficult to actually type it out. From the latest I heard, the plan is for Tim Duncan to retire today.If today is indeed the end, there's only one thing I can say: Thanks. It was a damn fun ride.
-From what I was told, about three weeks ago Duncan started working out on his own to see how his body reacted. Unfortunately, the knee that used to be his good knee didn't improve at all despite the rest. He has played a long time on one leg but losing his good knee has simply made it impossible for Duncan to keep going.
Maybe he found it disrespectful that he was given so many minutes to get eaten alive by Kanter and Adams?-The Spurs knew that if the bidding for Gasol went beyond a certain number that they'd lose Diaw. And considering that Pop gave up on him at the end of last season, everyone was fine with that. Losing West was surprising to the front office but apparently he felt disrespected. By what? They don't really know. As for Boban, he was lost when Manu Ginobili demanded a raise.
I wish Holt has just matched the deal. I mean he gave AJ $8 million back when Duncan's max salary was $9.6 million. With the paycuts Manu has repeatedly taken to keep this incredible team together the last 13 years and with the Spurs nowhere close to the luxury tax line I would have given him a big one year deal.-Ginobili went to the Spurs with a one-year, $18-19 million offer in hand from another team. Was he serious about taking the offer? I don't think anyone believed he would have actually left but Ginobili was able to create enough leverage to get somewhere in the neighborhood of $10 million from the Spurs.
-Is Ginobili worth that? yes. I'm thrilled to have him back for another season. In my eyes, he's still the most impactful bench player in the league. Sure, he doesn't score like Jamal Crawford or defend like Andre Iguodala, but Ginobili remains the ultimate difference-maker off the bench. Besides, it would have been too painful to see both Duncan and Ginobili retire in the same summer.
The Spurs would have to salary dump Mills right now to do it.I don't know how it would work contract/cap wise, but is it possible for Tim/Spurs to have a planned way for Tim to play half the year? Maybe retire and then unretire at the all-star break if he felt up to it? I know...I'm in denial.
Glad to see timvp back. If this is really the end of Duncan's career, I'll just be happy to know I had the privilege of watching his entire career. GOAT
So much insider information in this post not being reported by a single media outlet. How does OP know all this?
Thanks for the post, timvp - stick around a while!
This Tim news is really a bummer, I'll never forget him walking off the court in OKC last season shooting a hand up to the crowd - it just felt like the end.
I can only hope he's around the franchise in one form or another; I'm forever grateful for what he's done for this franchise, all in true professional fashion.
GOAT
I think Tim should just take more time. He doesn't have to be ready for the start of the season. He should take most of the off-season off and see if it improves in a month or two. He can start training again later if it improves and start playing in January onward. If it doesn't improve in the next couple of months, he could also call it quits before training camp begins. I guess it also depends if the Doctors say it will or won't heal with more time off.
No need to rush anything IMO.
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TimVP is very connected.
I dont think I ever considered him to be a "i know someone who is very close to the situation" type ...
Or that he shares for "cool" points.
I find Tmvp to be very forthright and even if ends up being wrong on this I would not change my thoughts on his credibility.
Timvp bringing a lot of inside information to the table.
If Gasol had picked the Spurs a couple of years back, would we have gone all out for LMA last year?
what if Tim came back as a player-coach? would that change anything?
I think they would have but at the same time it is hard to go back in time and think what if we had this player. The whole dynamic of the team changes, who knows what the team would like now especially when considering the cap.
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