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    Austin. Born and raised, and still living here. Spurs are my team because they were always my team. But I didn't care about the intellectual aspect of sports until I was an adult. I went away from college and didn't get to watch the games, so I had to read about them instead. Changes your perspective.
    Nice! Hook em

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    WTF

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    He's basically saying he's on the side of players choosing to create super teams and that super teams haven't equaled true dominance since there's been 5 different champs in 6 seasons.

    Commissioner Silver's stance is probably the position of every owner not in Golden State. Luckily this season will need to be played in order for any real conclusions to be made. Fortunately for JJ, the Warriors would need to make the league seem uncompe ive for a Bulls type run (6 chips in 8 years) in order for the economics to have a legit shot at being negatively impacted. JJ will be retired or close to it by the time those chickens would come home to roost.

    It it will be culturally interesting to see if that type of winning will be embraced in today's society. The Bulls were loved globally on the fame of MJ. Now that KD is the villain and global fans are more informed it could have the opposite effect. Either way, I think the popularity of the sport will remain intact regardless of the Warroirs success.
    There's a big difference in making trades and getting clearance from players before bringing in a superteam and just having cap quirks allow you to have two MVPs without giving up money. Silver is trying to make it harder for teams to game the system, not for players to take less money to have good teams.

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    They always sign more players than what they need. They just have to be cut by the deadline. Nothing to see here.

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    Austin. Born and raised, and still living here. Spurs are my team because they were always my team. But I didn't care about the intellectual aspect of sports until I was an adult. I went away from college and didn't get to watch the games, so I had to read about them instead. Changes your perspective.
    I was raised in Austin too. I lived there for 28 years.

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    They always sign more players than what they need. They just have to be cut by the deadline. Nothing to see here.
    maybe jus for training camp?

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    This kid will make the final roster....

    Hoping LJC doesn't

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    It's probably a park ally guaranteed contract so they can have him in camp. Stokes will probably get the same thing here soon.

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    Larry Coon:
    70. What is a summer contract?

    A summer contract is typically used for training camp invitees, because the player's salary is not included in team salary until the first day of the regular season. In other words, it is a "make-good" contract -- the player must make the team's opening day roster in order to receive his salary and for his contract to be included in team salary.

    If the player is a veteran free agent who last played for that team, the contract must be for one season at the minimum salary (see question number 16). In all other cases there are no special limits to the salary or number of years -- a team could theoretically sign a player to a summer contract for four seasons at the maximum salary. However, summer contracts frequently utilize Exhibit 9 of the Uniform Player Contract, which adds further limitations (see below).

    A summer contract can be signed from the first day after the July Moratorium (see question number 104) to the last day before the regular season. To avoid counting as team salary, the player must clear waivers prior to the first day of the regular season. To qualify as a summer contract no compensation of any kind can be earned or paid prior to the start of the regular season. The salary cannot be guaranteed or insured. However, the player may receive per diem, lodging and transportation expenses, and disability insurance covering summer leagues and training camp.

    Since summer contracts do not count against the team's cap until the start of the regular season, teams can effectively sign players to summer contracts when they do not have room (cap room or an exception) for the contract, and delay creating the necessary room until the start of the regular season.

    A summer contract does not need to utilize Exhibit 9 of the Uniform Player Contract (One Season, Non-Guaranteed Training Camp Contracts), but doing so limits the team's liability in the event the player becomes injured. If a player with an Exhibit 9 becomes injured and unable to play basketball prior to the team's first regular season game and the injury is a direct result of playing basketball for the team, then the team pays the player $6,000 when it waives him. This is in lieu of the rule for ordinary contracts guaranteeing the salary of an injured player until he is ready to play again or until the end of that season, whichever comes first (see question number 64). If Exhibit 9 is used, the contract must be for one season at the minimum salary, with no bonuses of any kind.

    A team cannot sign a player using Exhibit 9 unless it has at least 14 players on its roster, not including summer contracts.

    When a player on a summer contract is traded before the start of the regular season, his salary for trade purposes is $0 and the trade is treated the same as a trade for draft rights. Teams cannot receive trade exceptions (see question number 85) when trading summer contracts, and the acquiring team does not need to match salaries, have cap room, or use an exception. However, the acquiring team must create the necessary room or designate an exception prior to the start of the regular season, when the player's salary is added to the team's cap.

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    Interesting. I wouldn't have known you've only been a fan for 3 years or so due to the way you talk about the game and players. It's awesome to hear and see how the Spurs have made you passionate for the game of basketball
    I have learned along the way. Found myself with too much time early in SA and read or watched videos from coaches in YouTube to learn.

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    I don't think it's anywhere near that dire. The team could get by fine with only one of those bigs for a long stretch. Same goes for Leonard. Sure, they'd take a hit, but you're still talking about a well-coached team with talented players. If teams like Dallas can make the playoffs with how terrible they've been recently, the Spurs could, too.
    You are being very Dude & I like that. But I just think you are underestimating the lack of talent (possibly) on the bench and the holes. The Spurs only have 3 NBA caliber bigs as of now on the roster and Pau is older. Any injury puts the Spurs in a very tight spot.

    *Could* things work out? Sure, but Spurs are on thin ice both at guard and PF/C.

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    Ew. You mean Gig 'Em.

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    As always, Drom, much appreciate insight.

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    I love how the tweet makes it seem like it's a big announcement. They'll sign five guys who won't be on the final roster.

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    You are being very Dude & I like that. But I just think you are underestimating the lack of talent (possibly) on the bench and the holes. The Spurs only have 3 NBA caliber bigs as of now on the roster and Pau is older. Any injury puts the Spurs in a very tight spot.

    *Could* things work out? Sure, but Spurs are on thin ice both at guard and PF/C.
    The Spurs won 60 games with Old McDyess, Blair and Bonner as their rotational bigs around Tim (who was not yet in his Indian Summer). They can get by for a stretch with one Pau or LMA with Anderson, Bertans or LJC filling in next to him and another next to Dedmon.

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    These are just preseason player signings. Just like Jimmer was last year.

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    These are just preseason player signings. Just like Jimmer was last year.
    Indeed. I'm expecting three more bigs and probably Washburn to be added the roster within the next week or so.

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    So why are you SAGirl if you aren't from the area?

    Anyway, my interest curve is similar to yours, but it started earlier. I am the only basketball fan in my immediate family, but I just sort of watched dumbly until about 2008 or so. So I was more attached to the new players of that came around that time (Hill, Blair, Splitter, Green, Hairston). I remember Robinson, Elliott, Avery, etc. But those aren't MY Spurs. Even the Big Three were more like an older sibling's friends than my own.

    I love SA, I didn't think too much about the hashname. I could ask why you are Chinook? I wonder lol

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    The Spurs won 60 games with Old McDyess, Blair and Bonner as their rotational bigs around Tim (who was not yet in his Indian Summer). They can get by for a stretch with one Pau or LMA with Anderson, Bertans or LJC filling in next to him and another next to Dedmon.
    That was with a better TP/Manu (they both played nearly the entire season). If SA had the guard depth and bench talent I would agree - but again, no one is saying it's impossible but to not even seemingly acknowledge the potential holes when they seem to be just as likely as the good?

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    Lineup as of 7/14

    PG - Parker, Mills, Murray
    SG - Green, Simmons, Forbes
    SF - Leonard, Ginobili, Archiacando
    PF - Gasol, Anderson, Bertans
    C - Aldridge, Dedman, ??

    Losses:
    PG - Miller
    SG - Martin
    PF - Duncan, West, Diaw, Bonner
    C - Marjanovich

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