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I get the feeling that the people that are mad about Manu's deal don't understand the salary implications.
Would you have thought last year getting a 2/16M deal would have been excessive? I agree, Manu leveraged the Spurs for 4M but the fact that 10M is ok is arbitrary. Especially if other teams were legit offering Manu bigger money. Since the 4M doesn't matter to SA I don't see haggling over money when a player has done you favors.
It's like haggling with LJC after he was flexible. Same road IMO.
I get the feeling that the people that are mad about Manu's deal don't understand the salary implications.
He did kick a homeless man in Portland years back, iirc.
Manu's only done one favor, IMO, and that was last year. His second contract was pretty hefty at the time, and the competing offers were never really specified. His third contract was for the max. His fourth one was fine for the market, and maybe a little generous considering how poorly he finished out the year. His fifth was the aforementioned steal that would have been in line with offering $10 Million this season (like $13M/2 would have been a fine, to above-fine deal last year). So now you have him getting paid to be a part-time superstar. I just don't see it. Tim was a world-class, GOAT-level player. He could have earned so much more. Manu isn't in that group, despite how he's seen here. He's great and certainly could have been able to earn more chasing the money. But it's not the same level of sacrifice in relation to his worth.
Chinook most definitely understands them. I see his point - Manu saw a moment of "weakness" and forced the Spurs to pay him that money essentially. It's one way to look at it but I think it's more about SA keeping their word that if Manu was worth 2/16M last year, then he deserves that money this year.
He makes no sense at this point, with Dedmon and Jean-Charles. They're all athletic bigs that can't shoot, which essentially means they all have to function as centers offensively and can't play together.
Even if Simmons and maybe Bertans, are more likely to claim the final rotation spot over whichever yet to be signed power forward, that player still has to be good enough to be a rotation player (and starter, if Aldridge gets injured). They can't just hand a spot to a minimal, unproven player; besides, they'll need the option to play more traditional in certain match-ups.
Manu didn't even close out playoff games against the Clippers two seasons ago. Which was a first back then (and I'm not saying it was wrong, just notorious). So yeah, the notion that Pop hasn't shifted the focus from the Big 3 is not really true.
One of the most overrated scrub GM's in the NBA. In the first day or two of the moratorium in 2014, he signed Belinelli because his ex-coach Thibbs, who didn't want him anymore called him an underrated defender and a good offensive player no matter what the situation called for. He signed Ayers because Boylen, an ex-assistant said he was an underrated big that would fit the Spurs system. Spurs offseason finished one day into free agency.RC is somewhere in Vegas driving while intoxicated, did y'all really expect him to call free agents we needed?
BOOM, 2014 NBA exec of the year.
Nah. I predicted this before any number came out. I'm upset at the extra $4 Million. , if it were $28M/2 with a non-guaranteed second year, I would be okay. But they completely capitulated to Manu. It's almost as if his agent took advantage of the FO's grief over losing Duncan. Like, "You don't want to lose two legends in the same year, do you? Then pay up."
Send his ass to Philly then. Have then throw in Noel.
auction us one of their bigs they're supposedly trying to get rid of.
Getting exec of the year for landing Aldridge when the only compe ion was the Lolkers, Blazers, and SunsOne of the most overrated scrub GM's in the NBA. In the first day or two of the moratorium in 2014, he signed Belinelli because his ex-coach Thibbs, who didn't want him anymore called him an underrated defender and a good offensive player no matter what the situation called for. He signed Ayers because Boylen, an ex-assistant said he was an underrated big that would fit the Spurs system. Spurs offseason finished one day into free agency.
BOOM, 2014 NBA exec of the year.
That's my point, if we know and are ok with essentially a 2/14M (2 last year, 10 this year) is the extra 2M thank you for a big sacrifice that helped land LMA really that upsetting?
Even if you think it was just one favor (I think being loyal, even when paid well, is still a favor), I still think 2M is really nothing to fret over in that regard.
With regards to pay for performance, sure, he's overpaid, but ultimately that doesn't matter since he's needed this year anyways.
They negotiated Ian down to 80% his first year.
And that's with him being a promise pick stash who was French, who stopped all workouts for other teams, who even shares a jersey number with LJC.
, they hardballed him so hard his contract by % might be the smallest in league history for a first rounder. They hardballed him so hard they even cut him before year 4. Belicheck style.
Not saying it's happened with LJC, but it's a possibility. Proven possibility.
Brett doing Gino a solid, tbh...
Things worked out in his favor, but maybe someone more knowledgeable about the salary cap can explain how it hurt the team. Peter Holt is not hurting for money, and it's a small price to pay for what Manu's given to this team over the last 13 years. Why is it "just a business" when management has to do something for financial reasons, but it's somehow predatory that Manu and his agent got paid and didn't harm the team?
Both of those guys won a ring with the Spurs... just sayin'...One of the most overrated scrub GM's in the NBA. In the first day or two of the moratorium in 2014, he signed Belinelli because his ex-coach Thibbs, who didn't want him anymore called him an underrated defender and a good offensive player no matter what the situation called for. He signed Ayers because Boylen, an ex-assistant said he was an underrated big that would fit the Spurs system. Spurs offseason finished one day into free agency.
BOOM, 2014 NBA exec of the year.
it.Really loved Jones.
Maybe time to turn to the other Jones? (Perry)
Poops
Should have cited last offseason if anything
I'll just leave this here, don't want to throw gasoline on that other thread.
This has coangelo written all over it.
so now manu signed for 14 million?
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