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    Imagine thinking fathead can play the point

    For s sake. The takes of some people.
    It's like the twilight zone around here. Fathead shooting .33% from the field in the playoffs and people expect the guy to get more responsibilities.

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    No one has yet to explain one good thing he did last playoffs. I'm waiting SAGirl.

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    It's like the twilight zone around here. Fathead shooting .33% from the field in the playoffs and people expect the guy to get more responsibilities.
    He will. Not out of a display of talent, but the team has nowhere else to turn this season.
    Get with the times.

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    I remember when Kawhi joined the Spurs. Dude could shoot the 3 decently. play great defense and slash to the basketball off the ball.

    Fathead is the exact opposite. Can't shoot the three. Can't rebound or defend. Can't play off the ball on offense or defense.

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    Tony has outlived his usefulness and effectiveness. It's been mentioned ad nauseam, but its true. He had some very good years but he is no longer good at breaking down defenses by driving in to the lane. He seldom beats defenders off the dribble and is a liability on defense. All of which would be fine if he could somehow score by hitting his jumper consistently. We all know that isn't going to happen.

    I'm in the camp that says IF someone is willing to take him in a trade, then you move and replace him with another adequate PG. Use his salary to bring in another impact player like Greg Monroe. I think you can replace what Tony is giving this team with someone less costly and younger. Who? I don't know but I know it wouldn't take much and there are plenty of PG's that are younger.

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    I'd trade Tony for Vasquez in a heartbeat

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    It's like the twilight zone around here. Fathead shooting .33% from the field in the playoffs and people expect the guy to get more responsibilities.
    Between small sample sizes and the entire notion of player development your stupidity is showing.

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    I remember when Kawhi joined the Spurs. Dude could shoot the 3 decently. play great defense and slash to the basketball off the ball.

    Fathead is the exact opposite. Can't shoot the three. Can't rebound or defend. Can't play off the ball on offense or defense.
    Changes nothing about the fact that he's about to be the 6/7th guy off of this bench and will be handed more responsibilities. It's happening.
    Discuss along those terms... even if it's just trolling.

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    Between small sample sizes and the entire notion of player development your stupidity is showing.
    Enlighten me. Improving from burning sack-of- to just sack of is considered an improvement. Just don't try to say it ain't a sack-of- .

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    People are really underselling Parker. He's still the best PG on the team by a mile. There will long stretches of games where Murray is literally unplayable. Folks need to realize that. Simmons last season was better than Murray this season. Do you want that starting? Well, some folks did want that starting, so I guess you might.
    That's not saying much at all. He's the ONLY pg on this team. Mills is no point guard and neither is Murray. TP would be a nice backup somewhere and perhaps another team would be willing to pay him to do it. His salary won't hurt quite as much when the cap moves up next year. He needs a fresh start somewhere else and the Spurs need a different player manning the point. It doesn't need to be an all-star, just someone who can hit a jump shot consistently, defend on the perimeter for longer stretches than TP could, and get the ball to the right people.

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    That's not saying much at all. He's the ONLY pg on this team. Mills is no point guard and neither is Murray. TP would be a nice backup somewhere and perhaps another team would be willing to pay him to do it. His salary won't hurt quite as much when the cap moves up next year. He needs a fresh start somewhere else and the Spurs need a different player manning the point. It doesn't need to be an all-star, just someone who can hit a jump shot consistently, defend on the perimeter for longer stretches than TP could, and get the ball to the right people.
    He still would want Dwest as our starting center. Player evaluations. Dude should retire from modding there.

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    In this hypothetical scenario of Spurs being interested in Monroe, why is a third team needed? What is it that a third team supplementing? Where does a straight two team deal fall short?

    I don't like either of these trades, but Parker for Monroe works (I value Parker more than Monroe) and Green + Mills works (again, I'd rather keep both players than trade for Monroe), but Monroe isn't a terrible player. It's plausible. He's a conversation starter. The Bucks have no leverage, of course. They've backed themselves into a fire sale.

    I'm guessing PATFO would want much more value back under either scenario and it falls on Milwaukee to find a sweetener elsewhere.

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    Enlighten me. Improving from burning sack-of- to just sack of is considered an improvement. Just don't try to say it ain't a sack-of- .
    He improved his defense and rebounding significantly as well as got stronger last season. I expect he will continue to improve.

    He had a bad series. If a bad run condemned someone, you would have been executed long ago.

    The schtick of grandstanding a poor season ending performance is not new nor is it particularly creative. Doesn't mean its worth a for analysis. All you really do is parrot the shooting percentage over and again like a moron.

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    He improved his defense and rebounding significantly as well as got stronger last season. I expect he will continue to improve.

    He had a bad series. If a bad run condemned someone, you would have been executed long ago.

    The schtick of grandstanding a poor season ending performance is not new nor is it particularly creative. Doesn't mean its worth a for analysis. All you really do is parrot the shooting percentage over and again like a moron.
    How about the other one. He didn't even play vs the clippers last year. Not one minute. Dude is a bum. Stahhhp.

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    He improved his defense and rebounding significantly as well as got stronger last season. I expect he will continue to improve.

    He had a bad series. If a bad run condemned someone, you would have been executed long ago.

    The schtick of grandstanding a poor season ending performance is not new nor is it particularly creative. Doesn't mean its worth a for analysis. All you really do is parrot the shooting percentage over and again like a moron.
    Lol, you expect to get somewhere with this... First off, when engaging in an intellectual debate, understand what's standing in front of you. You, of all people, being an argumentative poster, should understand this most basic thing before going into battle.
    Good luck, buddy. I don't expect you to do anything productive, or destructive with this one.

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    How about the other one. He didn't even play vs the clippers last year. Not one minute. Dude is a bum. Stahhhp.
    Is this really what you think is acceptable logic? Again:

    Between small sample sizes and the entire notion of player development your stupidity is showing.

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    In this hypothetical scenario of Spurs being interested in Monroe, why is a third team needed? What is it that a third team supplementing? Where does a straight two team deal fall short?

    I don't like either of these trades, but Parker for Monroe works (I value Parker more than Monroe) and Green + Mills works (again, I'd rather keep both players than trade for Monroe), but Monroe isn't a terrible player. It's plausible. He's a conversation starter. The Bucks have no leverage, of course. They've backed themselves into a fire sale.

    I'm guessing PATFO would want much more value back under either scenario and it falls on Milwaukee to find a sweetener elsewhere.

    Spurs move Parker to Team X (Philly?), Team X (Philly) moves a player to Bucks (One of their Bigs?), Bucks move Monroe to Spurs. Maybe something like that.

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    I saw the fathead being garbage a mile away. I remember Fuzzy was in that Fathead playoff minute tracker along with some other fathead threads. I can see why he still tilting.

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    Frankly I am ready for the team to move a different direction. We ain't winning with Tony. I'd even suggest a very Jason Kidd like experiment with SlowMo and Kawhi for point forwards together TBH. Team has to go another direction. We could have the ultimate all forward team and really kill with size, since that is what Pop wants. Who is going to guard these two TBH?
    I agree with this. I don't care that Tony is our best pg. When we play the Warriors I'd rather play lineups that don't involve Parker even if that means more dribbling for Kawhi.

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    Lol, you expect to get somewhere with this... First off, when engaging in an intellectual debate, understand what's standing in front of you. You, of all people, being an argumentative poster, should understand this most basic thing before going into battle.
    Good luck, buddy. I don't expect you to do anything productive, or destructive with this one.
    No one wins internet arguments. There is no objective judge. I get that. The point is convincing him.

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    Spurs move Parker to Team X (Philly?), Team X (Philly) moves a player to Bucks (One of their Bigs?), Bucks move Monroe to Spurs. Maybe something like that.
    Milwaukee is desperate for point guards. I assumed Parker was their target.

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    No one wins internet arguments. There is no objective judge. I get that. The point is convincing him.
    I salute you. A Fool's Errand is always in the eye of the beholder.

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    I'd rather watch a Kawhi, Green, Bertans, LMA, and Monroe lineup than a lineup with Parker in it.

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    Milwaukee is desperate for point guards. I assumed Parker was their target.
    I thought the Greek Freak was going to be the Guy manning the point for them. They already abandon that after all his triple dubs at the position, late last season when they put him there?

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    It's like the twilight zone around here. Fathead shooting .33% from the field in the playoffs and people expect the guy to get more responsibilities.
    Kyle fans are pathetic

    When Simmons dominates in the Summer League = "it won't slide in the NBA"

    When Fathead plays alright = "Give him more minutes! He's ready! Who cares if he's the only third year player in the summer league"

    I won't call out any posters, but one of his biggest fans hates on every player on the bench and on ball-dominant players like Tony and Manu.. They they'll call you a Kyle "hater" like a hypocrite

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