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Baseball fans think we are all ignorants to these facts and think we dislike baseball because we have never giving it a chance. When it's the complete opposite: the reason we give baseball so much is 'cause we tried to enjoy it, we have giving it more than one chance, we have watched it on TV, we have played it, we play the videogames, yet we can't warm up to the sport 'cause we find it too ing boring. It's simple as that.
You guys like it? Cool, we are not here to argue likes and dislikes. But don't come here trying to sell us that baseball is a tactically diverse sport when everybody knows it is as simple and static as it comes.
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it. Here's my "take" on this baseball v. football v. basketball v. soccer waving contest.
Purely financially-driven. entertainment value.
So long as a player doesn't retire early or commit league violations which result in suspensions, MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. endorsements. It took KG and Kobe 20 years to earn $320M. Its taken Lebron 13 years to earn ~$170M. It will take Marlins RF Giancarlo Stanton 13 years to earn $325M and he's getting every single ing penny of it. In baseball you can play well into your late 30s/early 40s and still be relevant and the same could probably be said about soccer.
I'll delve into the safety argument a bit. Unlike the NFL, and yes water is ing wet, soccer/baseball/basketball are far safer sports to play which means that by the time you retire you'll actually get to enjoy your money/lifestyle with very little rehab if any. There's a steep price to pay to be an NFL player and it usually means paying for it with severe brain/head trauma, CTE, high risk of suicide and all for a career which on average lasts no more than 4 years. Talk about pituitary re s. I don't think it's worth it, but hey, to each their own.
Now I don't know the stats for soccer players but I would say that the NFL is the true poverty ball, followed by the NBA. Notice how many players appearing in the 30 for 30 Broke were MLB/soccer players? What....schilling, homer bush and ummmm....yeah you get the point.
Again, my take is purely financially-driven because at the end of the day these z don't play to entertain the masses, they play to make ing money and lots of it.
I guess you missed the part where Jordan played baseball as his first sport.
No, NFL and NBA players mostly grew up with poor socioeconomic backgrounds and had pretty much zero concept of money.
You are. None of the soccer crew has even a rudimentary understanding of baseball strategy and tactics.
"Players in motion" doesn't automatically equal "tactically" diverse.
Spurs won 4 les with a "static" and "simplistic" offensive scheme that had players spread out on the perimeter as Duncan was fed in the post. He would either 1). Score from the post if he had a matchup advantage or 2). Find shooters and slashers if the double team came.
Their defensive scheme was rather simple as well. Don't crash the offensive boards so you don't get beat by a fast break. Funnel penetrators into Duncan/Robinson/Rasho/Etc. Stay home on 3 point shooters while Duncan anchors the paint to force teams into inefficient mid-range 2s.
My mind is literally blown.
And how about the modern super deep basketball tactic of abusing pick-and-rolls to create cross matches! The correct basketball tactic to use is piss easy to see just by watching the game.
The correct (highest probability of success) baseball tactic to use if you're a pitcher or hitter is not obvious until do you a load of research. This is why you won't be able to tell me what is the best way to pitch to Mike Trout and how to best build a lineup around just by watching him play over a few games.
On the other hand, I can watch Steph Curry play and know instantly the best tactic to use is to put him in constant pick-and-rolls. I can watch a great low post player and know instantly what scheme to build around him.
Pop: "I don't watch film. They know what we're going to do. We know we're they're going to do. I'm more concerned with doing what we do perfectly."
i.e. basketball is about execution, not trying to "out-think" the other guy. This is also why advanced metrics show that coaching has little influence on NBA teams.
Pitcher vs. Batter? Totally trying to out-think the other guy.
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Most kids in america play all sports growing up , as for the rest of the world its basically one sport. Usually soccer, so is it a surprise that American athletes can perform better in over all sports , no.
And that's why they're pretty terrible all around athletes overall usually
It's also why I'm against specialization, which is a current trend now even in American sports, forcing kids to "choose" a single sport by age 10-12.
That's why he ultimately picked basketball
It's more exciting and it's a sport
What's Hakeem's excuse? Did he not realize one day that kickball just wasn't for him?
Well back in the days soccer wasn't as popular in the US as it is today
Since he was studying in the US he picked basketball because beisbol is not a sport
Wait. Soccer is popular in the US today?
You missed the part where Jordan was a mediocre basketball player when he was playing besibol which was causing his muscle to atrophy (that's the reason PEDs are popular among Fatballers). This even happened in his PRIME after he lost his motor skills dabbling w/ besibol:
[QUOTE=lefty;8687242]Well back in the days soccer wasn't as popular in the US as it is today
Since he was studying in the US he picked basketball because beisbol is not a sport/QUOTE]
Sure
This is an athlete, left.
This is not:
And you know Rock is drilling any floptrot player in a race.
Doesn't really sound like a bad idea, investing your time that you have into one thing and getting really good at it rather than be mediocre at a bunch of other things sounds better to me.And that's why they're pretty terrible all around athletes overall usually
It's also why I'm against specialization, which is a current trend now even in American sports, forcing kids to "choose" a single sport by age 10-12.
You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player
It's widely known that Jordan only played beisbol instead of bball as a kid because he was forced by his dad. Being the sociopath he is MJ could never let go of that grudge and it ended up being the main reason he killed him, tbh...I guess he felt a little guilty then and decided to give it another try but quickly got bored with it again and went back to the NBA.
You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player
Good choice by his dad, since baseball gave him the foundation skills to become the best player in history.
Meanwhile soccer has Steve Nash, Kirby, and a Child Molester
You're missing the point, 140. Who gives a what sport Hakeem or Jordan played growing up. It contributed less than 0.1% in their success as NBA pros.
Good choice by his dad, since baseball gave him the foundation skills to become the best player in history.
Meanwhile soccer has Steve Nash, Kirby, and a Child MolesterPick a lane, fatsosYou're missing the point, 140. Who gives a what sport Hakeem or Jordan played growing up. It contributed less than 0.1% in their success as NBA pros.
When exactly dod jordan say Baseball helped his basketball game?
It's only slightly less boring than kickball, tbh.
Both "sports" blow. There is a reason why both rank below ing ice hockey in America.
You mean BEFORE his body had fully developed? Even Tim got sonned by Ostertag when he was a rookie.You missed the part where Hakeem choked away the NCAA Championship and then got obliterated by a 215lb white American player
- Tim Duncan 14 points/6 of 10 FG/8 rebs/3 assists/2 blocks
- Greg Ostertag 21 points/7 of 12 FG/10 rebs/0 assists/5 blocks
Tim fouled out of the game getting his sixth foul at 2:52 of the fourth quarter.
"Jermaine (O'Neal) destroyed me. He was with Portland, was real young ... and Tag threw my stuff into the first couple of rows a few times."
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